Fix Gentle

Potatoslice500Potatoslice500 Member Posts: 320 ★★
The recoil thing is an interesting idea but ultimately sucks, during rebalanced just drop it, keep the light combo ender for an increased rupture. It isn't like the sp2 damage is so strong that it needs a drawback. Listen to people like msd and fix it, thanks.

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  • Average_DesiAverage_Desi Member Posts: 1,114 ★★★★
    Okoye being faster and losing less health to bullseye is comical
  • WednesdayLengthWednesdayLength Member Posts: 2,064 ★★★★
    It's only 2.5% damage at max sig, it's an intentional part of his kit and there are ways around it if you don't want to deal with it. It's not getting fixed because it's an intentional design
  • PsilencePsilence Member Posts: 40

    Psilence said:

    It's lore accurate, the whole reason he's always meditating and is literally called GENTLE, is because using his powers causes him pain, the amount of pain is proportional to the amount of strength he uses. He's really strong but using his full power for long durations could LITERALLY KILL HIM.
    Plus it's not like you can't mitigate it, so if you don't like it like a lot of people just move on. There's literally hundreds of other characters

    except, it’s not anymore. jean grey worked with him and discovered that the pain he experienced had nothing to do with his powers. in their therapy sessions, jean discovered that his pain was the result of psychological blocks he placed on himself (resulting from the abuse he would suffer at the hands of his mother whenever he manifested his mutation). jean removed those blocks in an effort to help him reach his full potential; so, he no longer experiences any pain when using his abilities.
    And in the comics kitty pryde goes by Kate, but the version we have is from before then. Lore accuracy isn't the be all end all
    i never said that it was.
  • OurobørosOurobøros Member Posts: 1,977 ★★★★★
    Kabam changed Black Bolt when his sp2 used to do damage to him, now they released Gentle, make it make sense
  • PT_99PT_99 Member Posts: 5,254 ★★★★★
    edited January 22

    Okoye being faster and losing less health to bullseye is comical



    Same Leader and Nefa release situation once again,

    Where a hero marketed to do a specific job gets out shadowed by other hero released on same day who do the job better.

    Kebem 🤪
  • WednesdayLengthWednesdayLength Member Posts: 2,064 ★★★★
    Psilence said:

    Psilence said:

    It's lore accurate, the whole reason he's always meditating and is literally called GENTLE, is because using his powers causes him pain, the amount of pain is proportional to the amount of strength he uses. He's really strong but using his full power for long durations could LITERALLY KILL HIM.
    Plus it's not like you can't mitigate it, so if you don't like it like a lot of people just move on. There's literally hundreds of other characters

    except, it’s not anymore. jean grey worked with him and discovered that the pain he experienced had nothing to do with his powers. in their therapy sessions, jean discovered that his pain was the result of psychological blocks he placed on himself (resulting from the abuse he would suffer at the hands of his mother whenever he manifested his mutation). jean removed those blocks in an effort to help him reach his full potential; so, he no longer experiences any pain when using his abilities.
    And in the comics kitty pryde goes by Kate, but the version we have is from before then. Lore accuracy isn't the be all end all
    i never said that it was.
    You're saying that in the comics he no longer feels pain when attacking so he shouldn't in game, but the games character isn't based on the most up to date version clearly
  • WednesdayLengthWednesdayLength Member Posts: 2,064 ★★★★

    Kabam changed Black Bolt when his sp2 used to do damage to him, now they released Gentle, make it make sense

    Gentle has ways to mitigate the damage but a lot
  • captain_rogerscaptain_rogers Member Posts: 11,023 ★★★★★
    Atleast give us ways to regenerate the damage lol.
  • PsilencePsilence Member Posts: 40

    Psilence said:

    Psilence said:

    It's lore accurate, the whole reason he's always meditating and is literally called GENTLE, is because using his powers causes him pain, the amount of pain is proportional to the amount of strength he uses. He's really strong but using his full power for long durations could LITERALLY KILL HIM.
    Plus it's not like you can't mitigate it, so if you don't like it like a lot of people just move on. There's literally hundreds of other characters

    except, it’s not anymore. jean grey worked with him and discovered that the pain he experienced had nothing to do with his powers. in their therapy sessions, jean discovered that his pain was the result of psychological blocks he placed on himself (resulting from the abuse he would suffer at the hands of his mother whenever he manifested his mutation). jean removed those blocks in an effort to help him reach his full potential; so, he no longer experiences any pain when using his abilities.
    And in the comics kitty pryde goes by Kate, but the version we have is from before then. Lore accuracy isn't the be all end all
    i never said that it was.
    You're saying that in the comics he no longer feels pain when attacking so he shouldn't in game, but the games character isn't based on the most up to date version clearly

    Psilence said:

    Psilence said:

    It's lore accurate, the whole reason he's always meditating and is literally called GENTLE, is because using his powers causes him pain, the amount of pain is proportional to the amount of strength he uses. He's really strong but using his full power for long durations could LITERALLY KILL HIM.
    Plus it's not like you can't mitigate it, so if you don't like it like a lot of people just move on. There's literally hundreds of other characters

    except, it’s not anymore. jean grey worked with him and discovered that the pain he experienced had nothing to do with his powers. in their therapy sessions, jean discovered that his pain was the result of psychological blocks he placed on himself (resulting from the abuse he would suffer at the hands of his mother whenever he manifested his mutation). jean removed those blocks in an effort to help him reach his full potential; so, he no longer experiences any pain when using his abilities.
    And in the comics kitty pryde goes by Kate, but the version we have is from before then. Lore accuracy isn't the be all end all
    i never said that it was.
    You're saying that in the comics he no longer feels pain when attacking so he shouldn't in game, but the games character isn't based on the most up to date version clearly
    not once did I say anything about changing him. i just pointed out that he doesn’t have the “pain when he uses his mutation” handicap anymore.
  • PriyabrataPriyabrata Member Posts: 1,362 ★★★★
    Psilence said:

    It's lore accurate, the whole reason he's always meditating and is literally called GENTLE, is because using his powers causes him pain, the amount of pain is proportional to the amount of strength he uses. He's really strong but using his full power for long durations could LITERALLY KILL HIM.
    Plus it's not like you can't mitigate it, so if you don't like it like a lot of people just move on. There's literally hundreds of other characters

    except, it’s not anymore. jean grey worked with him and discovered that the pain he experienced had nothing to do with his powers. in their therapy sessions, jean discovered that his pain was the result of psychological blocks he placed on himself (resulting from the abuse he would suffer at the hands of his mother whenever he manifested his mutation). jean removed those blocks in an effort to help him reach his full potential; so, he no longer experiences any pain when using his abilities.
    Oh nice I didn't know that, I guess this is the version of gentle before he was healed
  • Potatoslice500Potatoslice500 Member Posts: 320 ★★

    It's lore accurate, the whole reason he's always meditating and is literally called GENTLE, is because using his powers causes him pain, the amount of pain is proportional to the amount of strength he uses. He's really strong but using his full power for long durations could LITERALLY KILL HIM.
    Plus it's not like you can't mitigate it, so if you don't like it like a lot of people just move on. There's literally hundreds of other characters

    The problem is that his fully boosted damage isn't great enough to deserve a drawback. It isn't like it is some top tier sp2 damage. It would make sense to have the recoil if so but it just isn't that special at all, especially compared to other recent mutants.
  • Potatoslice500Potatoslice500 Member Posts: 320 ★★

    It's only 2.5% damage at max sig, it's an intentional part of his kit and there are ways around it if you don't want to deal with it. It's not getting fixed because it's an intentional design

    Then boost the sp2 damage at full charges bc it just doesn't justify the recoil
  • Potatoslice500Potatoslice500 Member Posts: 320 ★★

    Atleast give us ways to regenerate the damage lol.

    Yes some sort of regen would also work, even if on the sp3
  • Potatoslice500Potatoslice500 Member Posts: 320 ★★
    Lokx said:

    In my opinion, he doesn't need the recoil damage to be removed since you can just not trigger it, what they need to do is increase the pay off by increasing damage overall or on the burst.

    I would agree w this, the damage doesn't justify the recoil. Not even close.
  • VaniteliaVanitelia Member Posts: 535 ★★★
    Maybe if JG comes to MCOC, she'll have a synergy that mitigates it. Maybe this version of Gentle came from another timeline and never came across JG. At the end of the day, it's a game. Still a pretty cool champ.
  • WednesdayLengthWednesdayLength Member Posts: 2,064 ★★★★

    Atleast give us ways to regenerate the damage lol.

    What's the point of a risk reward character that already allows you to mitigate 75% of the risk if you can just regen
  • captain_rogerscaptain_rogers Member Posts: 11,023 ★★★★★

    Atleast give us ways to regenerate the damage lol.

    What's the point of a risk reward character that already allows you to mitigate 75% of the risk if you can just regen
    I mean the other champ I could think of that has self damage mechanics is ihulk, and he has great regen to compensate that.
  • GroundedWisdomGroundedWisdom Member Posts: 36,788 ★★★★★

    It's only 2.5% damage at max sig, it's an intentional part of his kit and there are ways around it if you don't want to deal with it. It's not getting fixed because it's an intentional design

    That's not a lot.
  • WednesdayLengthWednesdayLength Member Posts: 2,064 ★★★★
    Psilence said:

    Psilence said:

    Psilence said:

    It's lore accurate, the whole reason he's always meditating and is literally called GENTLE, is because using his powers causes him pain, the amount of pain is proportional to the amount of strength he uses. He's really strong but using his full power for long durations could LITERALLY KILL HIM.
    Plus it's not like you can't mitigate it, so if you don't like it like a lot of people just move on. There's literally hundreds of other characters

    except, it’s not anymore. jean grey worked with him and discovered that the pain he experienced had nothing to do with his powers. in their therapy sessions, jean discovered that his pain was the result of psychological blocks he placed on himself (resulting from the abuse he would suffer at the hands of his mother whenever he manifested his mutation). jean removed those blocks in an effort to help him reach his full potential; so, he no longer experiences any pain when using his abilities.
    And in the comics kitty pryde goes by Kate, but the version we have is from before then. Lore accuracy isn't the be all end all
    i never said that it was.
    You're saying that in the comics he no longer feels pain when attacking so he shouldn't in game, but the games character isn't based on the most up to date version clearly

    Psilence said:

    Psilence said:

    It's lore accurate, the whole reason he's always meditating and is literally called GENTLE, is because using his powers causes him pain, the amount of pain is proportional to the amount of strength he uses. He's really strong but using his full power for long durations could LITERALLY KILL HIM.
    Plus it's not like you can't mitigate it, so if you don't like it like a lot of people just move on. There's literally hundreds of other characters

    except, it’s not anymore. jean grey worked with him and discovered that the pain he experienced had nothing to do with his powers. in their therapy sessions, jean discovered that his pain was the result of psychological blocks he placed on himself (resulting from the abuse he would suffer at the hands of his mother whenever he manifested his mutation). jean removed those blocks in an effort to help him reach his full potential; so, he no longer experiences any pain when using his abilities.
    And in the comics kitty pryde goes by Kate, but the version we have is from before then. Lore accuracy isn't the be all end all
    i never said that it was.
    You're saying that in the comics he no longer feels pain when attacking so he shouldn't in game, but the games character isn't based on the most up to date version clearly
    not once did I say anything about changing him. i just pointed out that he doesn’t have the “pain when he uses his mutation” handicap anymore.
    In response to someone stating why he has the recoil you say that he doesn't actually have that reasoning anymore. I'm merely saying that

    Atleast give us ways to regenerate the damage lol.

    What's the point of a risk reward character that already allows you to mitigate 75% of the risk if you can just regen
    I mean the other champ I could think of that has self damage mechanics is ihulk, and he has great regen to compensate that.
    Because he was designed around regenerating and also deals much more damage to himself. Losing 2.5% health per sp2 for essentially double damage is only an issue in super tight bg matches.

    The compensation for dealing damage to himself is that he's much more suicide friendly than a lot of characters and can reduce the damage he would take by a massive percentage
  • PolygonPolygon Member Posts: 4,930 ★★★★★

    Okoye being faster and losing less health to bullseye is comical

    Reminds me when they released Negasonic to counter him only for 30 different champs to outspeed her
  • Alone13Alone13 Member Posts: 144

    It's lore accurate

    You really wanna say "lore accurate" in this game 😂😂
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