GENTLE - HOW TO DESTROY A CHAMPS POTENTIAL WITH 1 BAD MECHANIC!

Tairique_turay0Tairique_turay0 Member Posts: 715 ★★★


The last thing a Bullseye counter needs is a mechanic that inflicts self-damage. What’s the point in being able to counter bullseye’s evade or bleed if you still lose 10% - 2% Health anyway if you play perfectly. This will happen against any defender that you fight with gentle, as long as you want max damage output. This will be a nightmare in battlegrounds because losing 10% health will lose you many matches over time… even the 2% health loss will cost you a win now and again. This mechanic basically punishes the player for playing well and going for max damage output… how satisfying is that right?! There’s nothing more satisfying then throwing a fully ramped SP2 and seeing your healthbar drop down. 👍🏽

Gentle is a 20% revives worst nightmare… throw 2 specials for max damage output and you’re KO’d without the defender even damaging you.

Gentle’s signature ability reduces the 10% health loss down to 2% at max sig. So basically… you gave Gentle a weakness that has no valid reason for even existing… and then making players have to invest sig stones into him, just to take away only 80% of this weakness… 🤕 what a waste of a signature ability.

MSD made a video that shows that Okoye is capable of being a better Bullseye counter than Gentle… who was made to be a Bullseye counter 💀 Okoye can counter bullseye’s evade without losing 10% health for playing her the right way. Okoye wasn’t even created to be a niche counter to bullseye like Gentle was… 🤦🏽‍♂️

These niche champions that are made to counter 1 champion out of 200+ is getting ridiculous. Gentle & Patriot seem to be in the same boat. Both champions aren’t even the best at countering the single champion they were made to counter… No reason to use either of them over any other champion for anything! Please remove this terrible mechanic from Gentle… that’s literally all you have to do. Self-damage mechanic is lame. Ihulk is so unsatisfying to play because of it too.
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  • dr2wsdr2ws Member Posts: 822 ★★★
    edited January 23
    A champ bad for Battlegrounds! Oh shucks!

    On a serious note don’t even bother with the 7* if you are serious about Gentle just go for the 6*.
  • WednesdayLengthWednesdayLength Member Posts: 2,064 ★★★★
    Idk how anyone can say okoye was a better bullseye counter than gentle lmao. You're gonna lose more health to blocking his specials than you are taking recoil as gentle and it's a much less safe fight. Wait until you get the champion before making claims about what they need to be better based on a3 fight YouTube video
  • PT_99PT_99 Member Posts: 5,254 ★★★★★
    edited January 23
    dr2ws said:

    A champ bad for Battlegrounds! Oh shucks!

    On a serious note don’t even bother with the 7* if you are serious about Gentle just go for the 6*.

    6*
    💀💀😱😭😭😭

    Good luck taking out 7r4 Bullseyes with 6* 💀
  • ButtehrsButtehrs Member Posts: 6,576 ★★★★★

    Idk how anyone can say okoye was a better bullseye counter than gentle lmao. You're gonna lose more health to blocking his specials than you are taking recoil as gentle and it's a much less safe fight. Wait until you get the champion before making claims about what they need to be better based on a3 fight YouTube video

    Fair enough but MSD is not just some loudmouth on the forums.
    Counterpoint, everyone has their own options.
  • captain_rogerscaptain_rogers Member Posts: 11,023 ★★★★★
    Ashacekar said:

    The question is, is gentle sp deal that much damage that the 10% health loss is justified?

    kvirr said:

    The question is, is gentle sp deal that much damage that the 10% health loss is justified?

    hell nah
    Got it covered


    An unrelated question. I feel extremely sad my pokemon knowledge is fading, anyways, does onyx learn self destruct? And isn't explosion better than self destruct even though both kills the user?
  • GroundedWisdomGroundedWisdom Member Posts: 36,788 ★★★★★
    It's 2.5% at Max Sig. You will survive.
  • AshacekarAshacekar Member Posts: 2,298 ★★★★★
    edited January 23

    Ashacekar said:

    The question is, is gentle sp deal that much damage that the 10% health loss is justified?

    kvirr said:

    The question is, is gentle sp deal that much damage that the 10% health loss is justified?

    hell nah
    Got it covered


    An unrelated question. I feel extremely sad my pokemon knowledge is fading, anyways, does onyx learn self destruct? And isn't explosion better than self destruct even though both kills the user?
    Onyx doesn't have that move. Yup, explosion is more powerful that self destruct. I believe it's gentle with and without recoil respectively as explosion and self-destruct.

    I think Gentle is here to teach us a lesson on empathy for our champs, we will get emotional when he faints every match telling us "I did it for you master".
  • Average_DesiAverage_Desi Member Posts: 1,114 ★★★★

    Idk how anyone can say okoye was a better bullseye counter than gentle lmao. You're gonna lose more health to blocking his specials than you are taking recoil as gentle and it's a much less safe fight. Wait until you get the champion before making claims about what they need to be better based on a3 fight YouTube video

    If anything, the fact that a r3 s200(which is crucial for reducing recoil for Gentle) loses more health is in favour of Okoye being a better matchup for bullseye.
  • Herbal_TaxmanHerbal_Taxman Member Posts: 1,058 ★★★★
    Buttehrs said:

    Idk how anyone can say okoye was a better bullseye counter than gentle lmao. You're gonna lose more health to blocking his specials than you are taking recoil as gentle and it's a much less safe fight. Wait until you get the champion before making claims about what they need to be better based on a3 fight YouTube video

    Fair enough but MSD is not just some loudmouth on the forums.
    Counterpoint, everyone has their own options.
    Counterpoint, some are much more valuable than others.
  • WednesdayLengthWednesdayLength Member Posts: 2,064 ★★★★

    Idk how anyone can say okoye was a better bullseye counter than gentle lmao. You're gonna lose more health to blocking his specials than you are taking recoil as gentle and it's a much less safe fight. Wait until you get the champion before making claims about what they need to be better based on a3 fight YouTube video

    Fair enough but MSD is not just some loudmouth on the forums.
    Sure, but when he says okoye is better against bullseye when showing she isn't I think it's valid to complain about
  • Emilia90Emilia90 Member Posts: 3,696 ★★★★★
    kus234 said:

    Who cares? I ain't buying any of those . My sinister is enough for Bullseye

    Inequity
  • EdisonLawEdisonLaw Member Posts: 9,130 ★★★★★
    Do not go Gentle with him
  • TerminatrixTerminatrix Member Posts: 3,492 ★★★★★
    edited January 24
    I don't know much about Gentle, but here is an r3 unawakened Okoye vs r3 sig 40 Bullseye fight that one of my alliance fam did. IMO she's looking good against him. She even took a couple of hits. I can imagine the quicker KO's she'll deal which will lead to less loss of health, when she's awakened.





  • captain_rogerscaptain_rogers Member Posts: 11,023 ★★★★★
    Emilia90 said:

    kus234 said:

    Who cares? I ain't buying any of those . My sinister is enough for Bullseye

    Inequity
    Stark spidy is the best bullseye counter.
  • VaniteliaVanitelia Member Posts: 535 ★★★
    And herein lies the problem of YT videos and promo Deep Dives. Vanilla fights that have the same health pools to what we see in BG's but lack the nodes associated with them. It's not a realistic scenario since 95% of the game has nodes/metas.

    It's a shame that the success of every champ that comes out is dependent upon them being either a Serpent or Bullseye counter. We already have plenty in the game.
  • RockSlydeRockSlyde Member Posts: 71
    I think it's weird that he has a pursuit passive. Yeah, it makes him a better bullseye counter but how exactly does it make any sense for his character? I feel like Kabam has been focusing much more on filling rpg needs over fulfilling character fantasies with certain champs, and this is a big example of that. Okoye is much better as a thematically aligned bullseye counter
  • WednesdayLengthWednesdayLength Member Posts: 2,064 ★★★★
    Emilia90 said:

    I just watched trappy nuke BG level bullseyes before even taking the recoil…what exactly is the issue here?

    People be mad
  • WednesdayLengthWednesdayLength Member Posts: 2,064 ★★★★

    I don't know much about Gentle, but here is an r3 unawakened Okoye vs r3 sig 40 Bullseye fight that one of my alliance fam did. IMO she's looking good against him. She even took a couple of hits. I can imagine the quicker KO's she'll deal which will lead to less loss of health, when she's awakened.





    She took more damage than gentle would take in recoil and also requires a lot of ai luck. She a great bullseye counter but people acting like she somehow way stronger than gentle for that is kinda nuts
  • BigBlueOxBigBlueOx Member Posts: 2,704 ★★★★★


    R5a Bullseye using R3 unduped.
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