Bastion or Jean Grey: Who are you looking forward to more?

EdisonLaw

And why?

https://youtu.be/uqecOZ4pVB8?si=JMxYyjscL5rZY-Vr

https://youtu.be/u6MzbrVS5lU?si=A4raVo2mc6DpYa1a

Comments

HassamaMama

And why?
https://youtu.be/uqecOZ4pVB8?si=JMxYyjscL5rZY-Vr
https://youtu.be/u6MzbrVS5lU?si=A4raVo2mc6DpYa1a

I said it on Lags’ stream already - I want Bastion to have the utility of Omega Sentinel and the damage potency of Nimrod. It looks like we might be getting more of a combination of FAM and Warlock instead, but hey that’s still amazing. The Tech class still needs something insane (even more insane than Jack), so Bastion’s my vote. But still VERY excited for Jean.

ItsClobberinTime

Always annoyed me the fact that we had Phoenix but not Jean, from the moment I downloaded this in Christmas 2015 so this is a big deal for me

Asher1_1

Mutant killer

Norman_Oro

Not to cop out, but I'm looking forward to both Jean Grey and Bastion. And I wouldn't complain if I got either as a 6* (or possibly eventually a 7*) because they both seem really cool in terms of design and abilities. However, my roster needs a Jean Grey just slightly more than it needs a Bastion.

Emilia90

Always annoyed me the fact that we had Phoenix but not Jean, from the moment I downloaded this in Christmas 2015 so this is a big deal for me

Welcome back

Oakenshield

tho its kinda sad how kabam is killing bullseye with every other attacker they release, 4/6 champions this year HARD counter bullseye, now I'm genuinely considering ranking black cat over him to r3. Like come on give him a break, alot of old champions counter him too, where's more serpent counters?

they just hate bullseye atp lol
I predicted hed be a Bullseye counter, not based off him at all, but solely based off the fact we get a new counter for Bullseye every month it feels. Nail in the coffin for anyone that used their r4 skill gem on him
They can still use him on attack, he’s a good attacker.
Hes fine outside of BGs, but in BGs hes too slow especially without suicides (which nobody runs for BGs anyway)
He is pretty good against photons in bgs (can take out similar rank ones in less than 60secs) but that's it.

Also I'm pretty annoyed how every bullseye counter also hard counters him (shuts his two mechanics completely), making him a noodle, whereas serpent onslaught enchantress and other tough defender counters only handle shut some of the mechanics of the target defender, leaving some room for taking damage if mess up.

I for one am happy that I held off on my final run of Epoch until this upcoming weekend. If I do pull a skill gem, I’m now probably not going to use it on Bullseye, and he was one of my front runners before.

StuntzTheCMMKid

tho its kinda sad how kabam is killing bullseye with every other attacker they release, 4/6 champions this year HARD counter bullseye, now I'm genuinely considering ranking black cat over him to r3. Like come on give him a break, alot of old champions counter him too, where's more serpent counters?

they just hate bullseye atp lol

Um you can use Bully as an attacker too lol.

ItsClobberinTime

Always annoyed me the fact that we had Phoenix but not Jean, from the moment I downloaded this in Christmas 2015 so this is a big deal for me
Welcome back

Thanks! Time to piss people off again 💀

EdisonLaw

tho its kinda sad how kabam is killing bullseye with every other attacker they release, 4/6 champions this year HARD counter bullseye, now I'm genuinely considering ranking black cat over him to r3. Like come on give him a break, alot of old champions counter him too, where's more serpent counters?

they just hate bullseye atp lol
I predicted hed be a Bullseye counter, not based off him at all, but solely based off the fact we get a new counter for Bullseye every month it feels. Nail in the coffin for anyone that used their r4 skill gem on him
They can still use him on attack, he’s a good attacker.
Hes fine outside of BGs, but in BGs hes too slow especially without suicides (which nobody runs for BGs anyway)
He is pretty good against photons in bgs (can take out similar rank ones in less than 60secs) but that's it.

Also I'm pretty annoyed how every bullseye counter also hard counters him (shuts his two mechanics completely), making him a noodle, whereas serpent onslaught enchantress and other tough defender counters only handle shut some of the mechanics of the target defender, leaving some room for taking damage if mess up.
I for one am happy that I held off on my final run of Epoch until this upcoming weekend. If I do pull a skill gem, I’m now probably not going to use it on Bullseye, and he was one of my front runners before.

He is one of the best skill r4 options though, there aren’t that many skill dual threats other than him

Oakenshield

tho its kinda sad how kabam is killing bullseye with every other attacker they release, 4/6 champions this year HARD counter bullseye, now I'm genuinely considering ranking black cat over him to r3. Like come on give him a break, alot of old champions counter him too, where's more serpent counters?

they just hate bullseye atp lol
I predicted hed be a Bullseye counter, not based off him at all, but solely based off the fact we get a new counter for Bullseye every month it feels. Nail in the coffin for anyone that used their r4 skill gem on him
They can still use him on attack, he’s a good attacker.
Hes fine outside of BGs, but in BGs hes too slow especially without suicides (which nobody runs for BGs anyway)
He is pretty good against photons in bgs (can take out similar rank ones in less than 60secs) but that's it.

Also I'm pretty annoyed how every bullseye counter also hard counters him (shuts his two mechanics completely), making him a noodle, whereas serpent onslaught enchantress and other tough defender counters only handle shut some of the mechanics of the target defender, leaving some room for taking damage if mess up.
I for one am happy that I held off on my final run of Epoch until this upcoming weekend. If I do pull a skill gem, I’m now probably not going to use it on Bullseye, and he was one of my front runners before.
He is one of the best skill r4 options though, there aren’t that many skill dual threats other than him

The point of the above comments is that with all of the hard counters for him that have been coming out, he is far less of a threat from a defense standpoint, and while he is solid on offense he isn’t outstanding. So, while technically he is still a dual threat, he is substantially reduced in strength/value as one. Given this I’m more inclined to consider a really good utility choice like Chee or Black Cat or a glass cannon like Hit Monkey.

EdisonLaw

tho its kinda sad how kabam is killing bullseye with every other attacker they release, 4/6 champions this year HARD counter bullseye, now I'm genuinely considering ranking black cat over him to r3. Like come on give him a break, alot of old champions counter him too, where's more serpent counters?

they just hate bullseye atp lol
I predicted hed be a Bullseye counter, not based off him at all, but solely based off the fact we get a new counter for Bullseye every month it feels. Nail in the coffin for anyone that used their r4 skill gem on him
They can still use him on attack, he’s a good attacker.
Hes fine outside of BGs, but in BGs hes too slow especially without suicides (which nobody runs for BGs anyway)
He is pretty good against photons in bgs (can take out similar rank ones in less than 60secs) but that's it.

Also I'm pretty annoyed how every bullseye counter also hard counters him (shuts his two mechanics completely), making him a noodle, whereas serpent onslaught enchantress and other tough defender counters only handle shut some of the mechanics of the target defender, leaving some room for taking damage if mess up.
I for one am happy that I held off on my final run of Epoch until this upcoming weekend. If I do pull a skill gem, I’m now probably not going to use it on Bullseye, and he was one of my front runners before.
He is one of the best skill r4 options though, there aren’t that many skill dual threats other than him
The point of the above comments is that with all of the hard counters for him that have been coming out, he is far less of a threat from a defense standpoint, and while he is solid on offense he isn’t outstanding. So, while technically he is still a dual threat, he is substantially reduced in strength/value as one. Given this I’m more inclined to consider a really good utility choice like Chee or Black Cat or a glass cannon like Hit Monkey.

They are decent options as well

Kingering_King

Loved the show

EdisonLaw

Loved the show

Loved it as well. I wished they used his Second Coming/Messiah Complex appearance

Dr. Crab

Honestly Bastion looks pretty dang cool but Jean Grey is just so iconic and super overdue.

Polygon

Always annoyed me the fact that we had Phoenix but not Jean, from the moment I downloaded this in Christmas 2015 so this is a big deal for me

Welcome back mate @ItsClobberinTime

Polygon

tho its kinda sad how kabam is killing bullseye with every other attacker they release, 4/6 champions this year HARD counter bullseye, now I'm genuinely considering ranking black cat over him to r3. Like come on give him a break, alot of old champions counter him too, where's more serpent counters?

they just hate bullseye atp lol
I predicted hed be a Bullseye counter, not based off him at all, but solely based off the fact we get a new counter for Bullseye every month it feels. Nail in the coffin for anyone that used their r4 skill gem on him
They can still use him on attack, he’s a good attacker.
Hes fine outside of BGs, but in BGs hes too slow especially without suicides (which nobody runs for BGs anyway)
He is pretty good against photons in bgs (can take out similar rank ones in less than 60secs) but that's it.

Also I'm pretty annoyed how every bullseye counter also hard counters him (shuts his two mechanics completely), making him a noodle, whereas serpent onslaught enchantress and other tough defender counters only handle shut some of the mechanics of the target defender, leaving some room for taking damage if mess up.
I for one am happy that I held off on my final run of Epoch until this upcoming weekend. If I do pull a skill gem, I’m now probably not going to use it on Bullseye, and he was one of my front runners before.
He is one of the best skill r4 options though, there aren’t that many skill dual threats other than him

You've lost the plot if you consider bullseye a dual threat. Sure if you compare him to like korg/KM/attuma but he was always known for his defensive prowess. And thats basically been disposed through a trash compactor now with all these mutant buffs/new champs. The skill class is in desperate need of new 7*'s or reworked ones.

ItsClobberinTime

Always annoyed me the fact that we had Phoenix but not Jean, from the moment I downloaded this in Christmas 2015 so this is a big deal for me
Welcome back mate @ItsClobberinTime

Thanks! Glad to see some of y'all are still here I thought most of you would be gone by now.

EdisonLaw

So after watching both deep dives, I am definitely excited for both, they have lots of potential.