Modding

Newt08 · March 5

How in the world are we still at this point with bgs.

T-DeAdLY-J · March 5

Welcome to MCOC.

BigTuna_2054 · March 5

I have been matched with this cheater twice now. I have reported him twice and submitted a ticket yet here he still is. Kabam doesn't do anything about it. He's in Celestial 5 now and soon will be top of leader board.

ahmynuts · March 5

BigTuna_2054 said:
I have been matched with this cheater twice now. I have reported him twice and submitted a ticket yet here he still is. Kabam doesn't do anything about it. He's in Celestial 5 now and soon will be top of leader board.

They ban in waves so nothing would happen to them until the end of the season or maybe mid season depending on how often they run the process

SirGamesBond · March 5

It looks like epoch brought many modders back.
It doesn't look like epoch got the necro mod/hack detection treatment

Kingering_King · March 5

My friend fought this same guy!! 😂

BringPopcorn · March 5

"how on earth..." You know how there are laws against crimes and jails and all and there is still crime? Its obviously a new account and probably isn't aware of the consequences.
I kinda expected a new wave of cheaters with the PC crowd joining.

BigTuna_2054 · March 5

Doubtful he is unaware of the consequences as he sure loves to spam his emotes. That's a lame excuse for a cheater, but i agree the introduction of PC just subjected the community to more cheating/hacking.

Furrymoosen · March 5

BringPopcorn said:
"how on earth..." You know how there are laws against crimes and jails and all and there is still crime? Its obviously a new account and probably isn't aware of the consequences.
I kinda expected a new wave of cheaters with the PC crowd joining.

Or it's just a cheater that likes to cheat, is aware of the consequences, and is also aware that it only takes a few hours to cheat up another UC account to ruin peoples' days some more. But yeah, there's only so much Kabam can do to prevent cheaters from showing up. If they weren't doing anything about it, BGs would be majority cheaters and then some at this point, so it's clear they are doing something. But it's not like they can stop people from making new accounts, and they can't stop people from making modded software.
The only option really is to raise the standard of requirements to participate in BGs, but that would be a huge negative for smaller accounts (though we would have less complaints about "unfair" matchmaking).

BringPopcorn · March 5

BigTuna_2054 said:
Doubtful he is unaware of the consequences as he sure loves to spam his emotes. That's a lame excuse for a cheater, but i agree the introduction of PC just subjected the community to more cheating/hacking.

He could be laughing cause he is cheating, doesn't mean he knows the consequences of a perma ban. It's using a deck with 4*s its obviously a newer account.

CandyCane2 · March 5

I think it’s possible that domino could have knocked out your bullseye

mbgibson · March 5

This player has the title for Necro completion. How is this account not banned from Necropolis modding?

CandyCane2 · March 5

mbgibson said:
This player has the title for Necro completion. How is this account not banned from Necropolis modding?

Must be the son of Kabam owner

PT_99 · March 5

BringPopcorn said:
"how on earth..." You know how there are laws against crimes and jails and all and there is still crime? Its obviously a new account and probably isn't aware of the consequences.
I kinda expected a new wave of cheaters with the PC crowd joining.

Well that's why I openly advocate for criminals to be published according to their actions instead of bundling them all up in cozy jail time,

Same here, there should be a system in BG that bans people of known suspicious activity instead of "lol it's been 2 months, let's ban now."

Bosley · March 5

Based on those pics I only see modding of BGs. How do you know he also cheated with Necro?
(I'm not trying to argue, just curious....)

BringPopcorn · March 5

PT_99 said:

BringPopcorn said:
"how on earth..." You know how there are laws against crimes and jails and all and there is still crime? Its obviously a new account and probably isn't aware of the consequences.
I kinda expected a new wave of cheaters with the PC crowd joining.
Well that's why I openly advocate for criminals to be published according to their actions instead of bundling them all up in cozy jail time,

Same here, there should be a system in BG that bans people of known suspicious activity instead of "lol it's been 2 months, let's ban now."

This one is blatant, but there are some that need the investigation...
I dunno who cares BG rewards suck anyway, report and queue for the next one.

captain_rogers · March 5

PT_99 said:

BringPopcorn said:
"how on earth..." You know how there are laws against crimes and jails and all and there is still crime? Its obviously a new account and probably isn't aware of the consequences.
I kinda expected a new wave of cheaters with the PC crowd joining.
Well that's why I openly advocate for criminals to be published according to their actions instead of bundling them all up in cozy jail time,

Same here, there should be a system in BG that bans people of known suspicious activity instead of "lol it's been 2 months, let's ban now."

If they implement some Ai bans instead of manual scanning then it results in hundreds of "actual false bans". You want forums to be flooded with weekend posts on weekdays itself?

BringPopcorn · March 5

Remember how someone by the initials C D went under the radar until the guy sent video proof to opponents 🤣

PT_99 · March 5

captain_rogers said:

PT_99 said:

BringPopcorn said:
"how on earth..." You know how there are laws against crimes and jails and all and there is still crime? Its obviously a new account and probably isn't aware of the consequences.
I kinda expected a new wave of cheaters with the PC crowd joining.
Well that's why I openly advocate for criminals to be published according to their actions instead of bundling them all up in cozy jail time,

Same here, there should be a system in BG that bans people of known suspicious activity instead of "lol it's been 2 months, let's ban now."
If they implement some Ai bans instead of manual scanning then it results in hundreds of "actual false bans". You want forums to be flooded with weekend posts on weekdays itself?

When a 4* Domino beats 7* in 16 seconds,
Yeah that's insta ban category,

I want AI bans for these types of scenarios only.

SirGamesBond · March 5

BringPopcorn said:
Remember how someone by the initials C D went under the radar until the guy sent video proof to opponents 🤣

The 20k medium from scorpion vs rintrah.

BringPopcorn · March 5

SirGamesBond said:

BringPopcorn said:
Remember how someone by the initials C D went under the radar until the guy sent video proof to opponents 🤣
The 20k medium from scorpion vs rintrah.

Yup and the insane crit rating against Doom... About 60% crit hits? We watched the same vid

Adri5846 · March 5

Is lvl 47 only...

Now is connected, sure is modding in Bgs...

SummonerNR · March 5

Kabam Pinwheel commented in the other thread this morning that was ALSO showing this same opponent.
Reminder, to not include opponent names when accusing of cheating, you can directly report either in game, or via Support Site (link for reporting abuse).

https://help.kabamsupport.com/hc/en-us/categories/360003410932-Marvel-Contest-of-Champions

But anyways, Pinwheel thus has seen the similar BG screenshots of this person in the other post.

DNA3000 · March 5

PT_99 said:

captain_rogers said:

PT_99 said:

BringPopcorn said:
"how on earth..." You know how there are laws against crimes and jails and all and there is still crime? Its obviously a new account and probably isn't aware of the consequences.
I kinda expected a new wave of cheaters with the PC crowd joining.
Well that's why I openly advocate for criminals to be published according to their actions instead of bundling them all up in cozy jail time,

Same here, there should be a system in BG that bans people of known suspicious activity instead of "lol it's been 2 months, let's ban now."
If they implement some Ai bans instead of manual scanning then it results in hundreds of "actual false bans". You want forums to be flooded with weekend posts on weekdays itself?
When a 4* Domino beats 7* in 16 seconds,
Yeah that's insta ban category,

I want AI bans for these types of scenarios only.

It would be impractical to create a ban system that explicitly bans players who use a 4* Domino to kill a 7* in 16 seconds. The real problem is of course no one is going to make such rules. You have to generalize, and it is at that point you can run into trouble. Are you going to insta-ban all 16 second wins? All 4* vs 7* wins? What's the cut off going to be? Where do you draw the line, and how certain are you that that line can never, ever, ever be crossed by a legit player?

Also, are you sure that is impossible for all possible metas we might have in the future? Absolutely, positively certain?

There actually used to be autobans in the game for progressing faster than anyone thought possible with legit play. Until the speedrunners started exceeding that throttle and triggered the ban. Those were first adjusted, and then when the fastest speed runners beat the adjusted ones they were mostly removed and made human-reviewable before triggering bans.

DNA3000 · March 5

mbgibson said:
This player has the title for Necro completion. How is this account not banned from Necropolis modding?

The Necro anticheat doesn't ban instantly - if it did, cheaters would never complete it in the first place. It takes some time for the system to review and apply bans, even when it is done automatically by the Necro anticheat systems.

In this case, we're never going to know if that player cheated in Necropolis, because that account is currently in a state where its Necropolis performance is never going to be reviewed by the Necro anti-cheat systems.

OGAvenger · March 5

It’s actually come a long way since BG’s first released

captain_rogers · March 5

DNA3000 said:

mbgibson said:
This player has the title for Necro completion. How is this account not banned from Necropolis modding?
because that account is currently in a state where its Necropolis performance is never going to be reviewed by the Necro anti-cheat systems.

What you mean by this?

BringPopcorn · March 5

captain_rogers said:

DNA3000 said:

mbgibson said:
This player has the title for Necro completion. How is this account not banned from Necropolis modding?
because that account is currently in a state where its Necropolis performance is never going to be reviewed by the Necro anti-cheat systems.
What you mean by this?

That the account is too low to even enter necropolis, I think thats what he means

PT_99 · March 6

DNA3000 said:

PT_99 said:

captain_rogers said:

PT_99 said:

BringPopcorn said:
"how on earth..." You know how there are laws against crimes and jails and all and there is still crime? Its obviously a new account and probably isn't aware of the consequences.
I kinda expected a new wave of cheaters with the PC crowd joining.
Well that's why I openly advocate for criminals to be published according to their actions instead of bundling them all up in cozy jail time,

Same here, there should be a system in BG that bans people of known suspicious activity instead of "lol it's been 2 months, let's ban now."
If they implement some Ai bans instead of manual scanning then it results in hundreds of "actual false bans". You want forums to be flooded with weekend posts on weekdays itself?
When a 4* Domino beats 7* in 16 seconds,
Yeah that's insta ban category,

I want AI bans for these types of scenarios only.
It would be impractical to create a ban system that explicitly bans players who use a 4* Domino to kill a 7* in 16 seconds. The real problem is of course no one is going to make such rules. You have to generalize, and it is at that point you can run into trouble. Are you going to insta-ban all 16 second wins? All 4* vs 7* wins? What's the cut off going to be? Where do you draw the line, and how certain are you that that line can never, ever, ever be crossed by a legit player?

Also, are you sure that is impossible for all possible metas we might have in the future? Absolutely, positively certain?

There actually used to be autobans in the game for progressing faster than anyone thought possible with legit play. Until the speedrunners started exceeding that throttle and triggered the ban. Those were first adjusted, and then when the fastest speed runners beat the adjusted ones they were mostly removed and made human-reviewable before triggering bans.

Yes I'm certain that 4* beating 7r3 in 20 seconds is insta ban.
No need to yap this much for obvious already known answers.

DNA3000 · March 6

PT_99 said:

DNA3000 said:

PT_99 said:

captain_rogers said:

PT_99 said:

BringPopcorn said:
"how on earth..." You know how there are laws against crimes and jails and all and there is still crime? Its obviously a new account and probably isn't aware of the consequences.
I kinda expected a new wave of cheaters with the PC crowd joining.
Well that's why I openly advocate for criminals to be published according to their actions instead of bundling them all up in cozy jail time,

Same here, there should be a system in BG that bans people of known suspicious activity instead of "lol it's been 2 months, let's ban now."
If they implement some Ai bans instead of manual scanning then it results in hundreds of "actual false bans". You want forums to be flooded with weekend posts on weekdays itself?
When a 4* Domino beats 7* in 16 seconds,
Yeah that's insta ban category,

I want AI bans for these types of scenarios only.
It would be impractical to create a ban system that explicitly bans players who use a 4* Domino to kill a 7* in 16 seconds. The real problem is of course no one is going to make such rules. You have to generalize, and it is at that point you can run into trouble. Are you going to insta-ban all 16 second wins? All 4* vs 7* wins? What's the cut off going to be? Where do you draw the line, and how certain are you that that line can never, ever, ever be crossed by a legit player?

Also, are you sure that is impossible for all possible metas we might have in the future? Absolutely, positively certain?

There actually used to be autobans in the game for progressing faster than anyone thought possible with legit play. Until the speedrunners started exceeding that throttle and triggered the ban. Those were first adjusted, and then when the fastest speed runners beat the adjusted ones they were mostly removed and made human-reviewable before triggering bans.
Yes I'm certain that 4* beating 7r3 in 20 seconds is insta ban.
No need to yap this much for obvious already known answers.

If I can come up with a reasonable BG meta in which it is possible for at least one 4* champ to beat at least one 7R3 champ in 20 seconds, will you agree to permanently shut up about this and all related topics?

Since we’re on the subject of unnecessary yapping, that’s a yes or no question.

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