I would try but probs id go 3 at most but who counters domino with what be super high attack when vision deathless isnt aar immune or korg who will have so much thorns
I'd kinda like some proof on how they counter all the fights honestly before even considering it myself. Do you have a video for reference?
it be hell to try and do spider ham with that’s team consider Thanos need the panics debuff
That spiderham is pretty awful with everyone except like Kate Bishop who we cant even bring. I tried with Negasonic and that fight is so slow as is when you are spending half of the fight just baiting his specials.
Also to note: if you keep his spider nonsense low, then he doesn't evade.
I'd kinda like some proof on how they counter all the fights honestly before even considering it myself. Do you have a video for reference?
it be hell to try and do spider ham with that’s team consider Thanos need the panics debuff
That spiderham is pretty awful with everyone except like Kate Bishop who we cant even bring. I tried with Negasonic and that fight is so slow as is when you are spending half of the fight just baiting his specials.
Also to note: if you keep his spider nonsense low, then he doesn't evade.
I’m mentally preparing for a very long fight with Serpent.
I'd kinda like some proof on how they counter all the fights honestly before even considering it myself. Do you have a video for reference?
it be hell to try and do spider ham with that’s team consider Thanos need the panics debuff
That spiderham is pretty awful with everyone except like Kate Bishop who we cant even bring. I tried with Negasonic and that fight is so slow as is when you are spending half of the fight just baiting his specials.
Also to note: if you keep his spider nonsense low, then he doesn't evade.
Reason imma try moleman on my run as thats the thing i hated as no slow at all no panic just pursuit or true strike
I'd kinda like some proof on how they counter all the fights honestly before even considering it myself. Do you have a video for reference?
it be hell to try and do spider ham with that’s team consider Thanos need the panics debuff
That spiderham is pretty awful with everyone except like Kate Bishop who we cant even bring. I tried with Negasonic and that fight is so slow as is when you are spending half of the fight just baiting his specials.
Also to note: if you keep his spider nonsense low, then he doesn't evade.
I'd kinda like some proof on how they counter all the fights honestly before even considering it myself. Do you have a video for reference?
it be hell to try and do spider ham with that’s team consider Thanos need the panics debuff
That spiderham is pretty awful with everyone except like Kate Bishop who we cant even bring. I tried with Negasonic and that fight is so slow as is when you are spending half of the fight just baiting his specials.
Also to note: if you keep his spider nonsense low, then he doesn't evade.
Doctor Doom -> Thanos can actually do him but its just a longer fight with some block damage. Else you can use deathless she hulk and play with her heavy only. Unfortunatley it doesn't slow but its just a long fight.
Terrax -> Since its a higher damage version. You can either use thanos and play "safer" and try for the solo. But I would personally just try gully as her regen can be a life saver when needed. She also hits really hard + class advantage.
Vision -> Since power control isn't a option we know vision won't work. But Thanos hits hard as is and should be able to nuke him or atleast do him in 1 revive. Bait sp1 /sp2 and then try for some luck. I dont know if deathless she hulk has the same mechanic as og where they are more likey to use special attacks on fury / trauma in this case and if it even works for the node. But id still use thanos here.
Modok -> Not that hard of a fight. We got panic debuff from thanos aswell.
Spider-Ham -> The most problematic fight in the quest. Debuff immune and power control isn't an option. We can't utilise thanos panic debuff here to prevent the evade. It will be a painfully long fight but thanos on sp1 spam and upkeep 8 furies should do the trick. Lots of sp1 baiting and tired fingers.
Weapon X -> Regen could be massive but we can use vision here or outdamage with thanos or sp3 spam on thanos for corrosive ticks.
Thing -> Long fight. Just a passive thing. Im thinking to use she hulk here although I will keep losing my buildup. Will probably be a long fight.
Korg -> We gotta knock him down and block damage goes up. So when using thanos. If you end on either M or L and you immediatly tap L. It will count as an intercept as theres enough spacing created for the a.i to instantly dash at you on combo end. Heavy with passive stun gonna do the trick.
Dragon man -> She hulk. Not much to say
Black panther -> He has evade/unstoppable so we can just Thanos it.
Nightcrawler -> You can use anyone aslong as you switch him to swash mode.
Spidergwen -> Thanos Panic debuff but parry heavy once for armor shatter and never again.
Domino -> Would be a bit tricky. Power damage only + crit failure. But a full hp vision should get it done. He doesn't have any "abilities" trigger as he is hitting her UNLESS he is on his phase mode. So he should technically never get crit failure unless he uses a special.
Mojo -> She hulk + Spider man 2099 relic so no buffs gained and class advantage.
Ibom -> She hulk is poison immune and its a straight forward fight.
Apoc -> Anyone you wish to use here.
Sassy -> She hulk + Trauma stack should deal with life cycle.
Killmonger -> Thanos armor shatter fight.
Void -> I generally don't like void but use a mix of everyone here
Nick fury -> Not that hard to fight so anyone
Thanos boss -> Everyone.
Unless I missed something or a node interaction. This should cover everything or is there something I missed? Maybe we can take out KG as he won't be used and use spot #5 as a filler for someone you need
I'll be honest, I wouldn't really call some of that actually countering a fight. Also keep in mind that these opponents will have around 1.5 mil health, but she hulk should be able to carry against vision.
Deathless she hulk also crushes Weapon X because her damage is burst based and he doesn't deal bursts. I also tried her against thing today and that fight is awful with oscillate. I got up to like 15 traumas at one point and then lost them all to improper management of his rock stacks.
I think I'll go with Wiccan, deathless she hulk, medusa, some counter to spiderham, and probably shathra.
Doom can be done with shathra or deathless she hulk as heavies and specials can't be glanced by size L champions. Shathra is nice because her basics are fairly weak so you can use her as normal for the start to get some eggs laid and eggs are immune to glancing. Then it is heavy spam, and alternate sp1 and sp2.
Wiccan is the greatest for terrax.
Medusa makes vision and modok easy. I recommend just getting medusa to sp3 for true accuracy for modok.
Someone for spiderham, not sure who though yet. Maybe negasonic honestly even though it is super slow.
I’m currently thinking about bucking the Onslaught/Serpent trend and doing: R4 Max Sig Sinister, Bullseye, Duped Howard, Wiccan, and Deathless She Hulk. So I guess at least one of them? Will use Sinister the most, DSH next most, Bullseye for annoying Spider ham, Spider Gwen, and a couple of others. Wiccan for BPCW and maybe also Terrax. Howard for Domino and Killmonger and probably Apoc. (Not sure about that last one).
I'd kinda like some proof on how they counter all the fights honestly before even considering it myself. Do you have a video for reference?
it be hell to try and do spider ham with that’s team consider Thanos need the panics debuff
That spiderham is pretty awful with everyone except like Kate Bishop who we cant even bring. I tried with Negasonic and that fight is so slow as is when you are spending half of the fight just baiting his specials.
Also to note: if you keep his spider nonsense low, then he doesn't evade.
I’m trying to talk myself out of bringing Mag HoX just for this fight but I’m currently failing.
I love seeing the theory crafting going on here... keep it coming
Your face gave me an idea. Does gladiator work for that spiderham? Spiderham has a pretty long sp1 animation and is going to be throwing it a lot, and gladiator's stun and intimidate are passive
I love seeing the theory crafting going on here... keep it coming
Your face gave me an idea. Does gladiator work for that spiderham? Spiderham has a pretty long sp1 animation and is going to be throwing it a lot, and gladiator's stun and intimidate are passive
I can't believe you just asked me if Gladiator works for a fight...
I love seeing the theory crafting going on here... keep it coming
Your face gave me an idea. Does gladiator work for that spiderham? Spiderham has a pretty long sp1 animation and is going to be throwing it a lot, and gladiator's stun and intimidate are passive
I can't believe you just asked me if Gladiator works for a fight...
I have a r4 thanos + used boosts. His regen from willpower is +850 per tick if you have taunt + power sting on you. He can still M heavy sp1 spam. And you can take ham actually really well as 8 furies on thanos hits extremely hard.
Vision is R3 he gives wep X unstoppable if he phases but wep x receives burst damage cause of heal block on him.
Gully is R3 and thing is around 800k hp. I took him down in 1 min 50 sec with her since her degen is still around 2k per tick boosted. Assuming thing will have 1.7m hp. She can do it in 4 mins which isn't that long of a fight.
So I think im sorted. Will test the rest of the run. And so far there was no "brute forcing" it
Dulk works for vision. I used guilly for terrax. One lucky crit at the end healed me to full, but I don't know if it is sustainable against a r4 terrax
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Also to note: if you keep his spider nonsense low, then he doesn't evade.
I’m mentally preparing for a very long fight with Serpent.
I'm currently watch Simula67s video & he ran same 4 you mentioned & Void
Doctor Doom -> Thanos can actually do him but its just a longer fight with some block damage. Else you can use deathless she hulk and play with her heavy only. Unfortunatley it doesn't slow but its just a long fight.
Terrax -> Since its a higher damage version. You can either use thanos and play "safer" and try for the solo. But I would personally just try gully as her regen can be a life saver when needed. She also hits really hard + class advantage.
Vision -> Since power control isn't a option we know vision won't work. But Thanos hits hard as is and should be able to nuke him or atleast do him in 1 revive. Bait sp1 /sp2 and then try for some luck. I dont know if deathless she hulk has the same mechanic as og where they are more likey to use special attacks on fury / trauma in this case and if it even works for the node. But id still use thanos here.
Modok -> Not that hard of a fight. We got panic debuff from thanos aswell.
Spider-Ham -> The most problematic fight in the quest. Debuff immune and power control isn't an option. We can't utilise thanos panic debuff here to prevent the evade. It will be a painfully long fight but thanos on sp1 spam and upkeep 8 furies should do the trick. Lots of sp1 baiting and tired fingers.
Weapon X -> Regen could be massive but we can use vision here or outdamage with thanos or sp3 spam on thanos for corrosive ticks.
Thing -> Long fight. Just a passive thing. Im thinking to use she hulk here although I will keep losing my buildup. Will probably be a long fight.
Korg -> We gotta knock him down and block damage goes up. So when using thanos. If you end on either M or L and you immediatly tap L. It will count as an intercept as theres enough spacing created for the a.i to instantly dash at you on combo end. Heavy with passive stun gonna do the trick.
Dragon man -> She hulk. Not much to say
Black panther -> He has evade/unstoppable so we can just Thanos it.
Nightcrawler -> You can use anyone aslong as you switch him to swash mode.
Spidergwen -> Thanos Panic debuff but parry heavy once for armor shatter and never again.
Domino -> Would be a bit tricky. Power damage only + crit failure. But a full hp vision should get it done. He doesn't have any "abilities" trigger as he is hitting her UNLESS he is on his phase mode. So he should technically never get crit failure unless he uses a special.
Mojo -> She hulk + Spider man 2099 relic so no buffs gained and class advantage.
Ibom -> She hulk is poison immune and its a straight forward fight.
Apoc -> Anyone you wish to use here.
Sassy -> She hulk + Trauma stack should deal with life cycle.
Killmonger -> Thanos armor shatter fight.
Void -> I generally don't like void but use a mix of everyone here
Nick fury -> Not that hard to fight so anyone
Thanos boss -> Everyone.
Unless I missed something or a node interaction. This should cover everything or is there something I missed? Maybe we can take out KG as he won't be used and use spot #5 as a filler for someone you need
Deathless she hulk also crushes Weapon X because her damage is burst based and he doesn't deal bursts. I also tried her against thing today and that fight is awful with oscillate. I got up to like 15 traumas at one point and then lost them all to improper management of his rock stacks.
I think I'll go with Wiccan, deathless she hulk, medusa, some counter to spiderham, and probably shathra.
Doom can be done with shathra or deathless she hulk as heavies and specials can't be glanced by size L champions. Shathra is nice because her basics are fairly weak so you can use her as normal for the start to get some eggs laid and eggs are immune to glancing. Then it is heavy spam, and alternate sp1 and sp2.
Wiccan is the greatest for terrax.
Medusa makes vision and modok easy. I recommend just getting medusa to sp3 for true accuracy for modok.
Someone for spiderham, not sure who though yet. Maybe negasonic honestly even though it is super slow.
R4 Max Sig Sinister, Bullseye, Duped Howard, Wiccan, and Deathless She Hulk. So I guess at least one of them? Will use Sinister the most, DSH next most, Bullseye for annoying Spider ham, Spider Gwen, and a couple of others. Wiccan for BPCW and maybe also Terrax. Howard for Domino and Killmonger and probably Apoc. (Not sure about that last one).
Thanos can take domino too.
I just tested thanos vs ham.
I have a r4 thanos + used boosts. His regen from willpower is +850 per tick if you have taunt + power sting on you. He can still M heavy sp1 spam. And you can take ham actually really well as 8 furies on thanos hits extremely hard.
Vision is R3 he gives wep X unstoppable if he phases but wep x receives burst damage cause of heal block on him.
Gully is R3 and thing is around 800k hp. I took him down in 1 min 50 sec with her since her degen is still around 2k per tick boosted. Assuming thing will have 1.7m hp. She can do it in 4 mins which isn't that long of a fight.
So I think im sorted. Will test the rest of the run. And so far there was no "brute forcing" it