The Zero Revive Gauntlet (Ordeal)Strat

2

Comments

  • Average_DesiAverage_Desi Member Posts: 1,670 ★★★★
    edited March 13

    Deathless Thanos is not working for Gwen. Panic doesn't last long enough to do anything meaningful, unless I'm doing something wrong. But I'm blocking to trigger Unstoppable (which triggers panic) and throwing a basic, and then an SP1 immediately, but panic doesn't pause, meaning out of the 5 seconds I get, almost all of them are spent in the SP animation.

    Is yours high sig? Mine was max so it lasted a good amount of off time
    I didn't even notice he had to be Awakened....now I think I'm screwed for Domino 😭
    What's your team, it shouldn't be that big a deal.(Hopefully)
  • Dirty_DozzDirty_Dozz Member Posts: 557 ★★★

    Deathless Thanos is not working for Gwen. Panic doesn't last long enough to do anything meaningful, unless I'm doing something wrong. But I'm blocking to trigger Unstoppable (which triggers panic) and throwing a basic, and then an SP1 immediately, but panic doesn't pause, meaning out of the 5 seconds I get, almost all of them are spent in the SP animation.

    Is yours high sig? Mine was max so it lasted a good amount of off time
    I didn't even notice he had to be Awakened....now I think I'm screwed for Domino 😭
    What's your team, it shouldn't be that big a deal.(Hopefully)
    I used your exact team, except Sinister and Thanos aren't Awakened. But, it's all good. Sinister worked very well. One SP1 cycle would take off about 35%, so it only took 3 revives to get her down.

    It's my fault for not paying more attention haha. Your write up is gold though. Up through Ibomb, I've solo'd about half the fights. Gwen, was the biggest sticking point. Most other fights were only a revive or two. Entering the final stretch now, so fingers crossed haha
  • JackTheSnackJackTheSnack Member Posts: 1,383 ★★★★
    Are those cheelith fights better suited for black cat?
  • JackTheSnackJackTheSnack Member Posts: 1,383 ★★★★

    This is extremely tempting to copy your strat. I have every Champ you used at R3 (except Sinister who is R1). Would an R2 Sinister work? Or could he even be replaced with someone else?

    Ideally needs awakening so you can carry charges
  • altavistaaltavista Member Posts: 1,675 ★★★★★
    Question about Onslaught for Doom - I know you mention the standard Onslaught fight, but I've given it a try a few times and Doom's Aura really messes with my timing of neuroshocks, pausing, and specials.

    Did you just push to SP2 and get the dex down, or is there some other strategy?
  • GamerGamer Member Posts: 11,664 ★★★★★

    Deathless Thanos is not working for Gwen. Panic doesn't last long enough to do anything meaningful, unless I'm doing something wrong. But I'm blocking to trigger Unstoppable (which triggers panic) and throwing a basic, and then an SP1 immediately, but panic doesn't pause, meaning out of the 5 seconds I get, almost all of them are spent in the SP animation.

    Fouce of will maybe
  • SquidopusSquidopus Member Posts: 904 ★★★★
    altavista said:

    Question about Onslaught for Doom - I know you mention the standard Onslaught fight, but I've given it a try a few times and Doom's Aura really messes with my timing of neuroshocks, pausing, and specials.

    Did you just push to SP2 and get the dex down, or is there some other strategy?

    In my run I’ve had a few times where I simply heavied into the aura and let him resist the knockdown, I got to maintain my DOTs and Doom often didn’t punish me that hard for it (keep in mind that Onslaught takes no damage from incinerate or shock and heals from them via willpower). Doom’s the first fight of the run so I really didn’t mind being risky, if you die you just restart and lose almost no progress.

    If you do want to be safe though, keep in mind that Doom’s aura doesn’t pause during specials and Onslaught has intentionally long specials designed to leverage his DOTs and daunted. If you heavy cancel into sp1 while the aura is active, the aura often expires before the last hit lands so Doom doesn’t get to resist the knockdown but you get to refresh the DOT pause and deal some extra damage. Often worth holding onto a sp1 for a bit to take advantage of this fact if Doom feels particularly sp1-happy.
  • Average_DesiAverage_Desi Member Posts: 1,670 ★★★★
    altavista said:

    Question about Onslaught for Doom - I know you mention the standard Onslaught fight, but I've given it a try a few times and Doom's Aura really messes with my timing of neuroshocks, pausing, and specials.

    Did you just push to SP2 and get the dex down, or is there some other strategy?

    https://youtu.be/Bj08TipE33o

    @altavista since the magentisms reduce ability accuracy you can occasionally still heavy into the aura
  • dv99999dv99999 Member Posts: 188
    altavista said:

    Question about Onslaught for Doom - I know you mention the standard Onslaught fight, but I've given it a try a few times and Doom's Aura really messes with my timing of neuroshocks, pausing, and specials.

    Did you just push to SP2 and get the dex down, or is there some other strategy?

    I feel Sinister is better for doom after tried some times
  • Repto23Repto23 Member Posts: 858 ★★★
    @Average_Desi gotta say I was hesitant at first but stuck with your guide and completed the content! Thank you so much!
  • DrZolaDrZola Member Posts: 9,563 ★★★★★
    Thanks for the guidance @AverageDesi

    Done with a solo revive and a team revive. Only used some of your team but advice was very useful.

    My counters…

    Ordeal:

    Doom – Onslaught
    Terrax – Onslaught
    Vision – DSHulk
    MODOK – Onslaught
    Ham – Serpent
    Weapon X – OS
    Thing – Void
    Korg – Onslaught (*)
    Dragon Man – DSHulk
    Black Panther CW – Serpent
    Nightcrawler – Serpent
    Spider-Gwen – Serpent
    Domino – OS
    Mojo – DShulk
    Ibom – DShulk
    Apocalypse – OS
    Sassy – DSHulk
    Killmonger – Onslaught/Serpent (team)
    Void – Onslaught
    Nick Fury – Onslaught
    Nameless Thanos – team but mostly Serpent

    Probably could have done without revive on Korg, but suddenly couldn’t parry and got clipped with ~33% health left on him. KM revive was also avoidable but by then I was headed to the homestretch and didn’t care.

    Dr. Zola
  • SirmacoolSirmacool Member Posts: 419 ★★
    Chee,ilth worked surprisingly well on doom
  • Average_DesiAverage_Desi Member Posts: 1,670 ★★★★
    DrZola said:

    Thanks for the guidance @AverageDesi

    Done with a solo revive and a team revive. Only used some of your team but advice was very useful.

    My counters…

    Ordeal:

    Doom – Onslaught
    Terrax – Onslaught
    Vision – DSHulk
    MODOK – Onslaught
    Ham – Serpent
    Weapon X – OS
    Thing – Void
    Korg – Onslaught (*)
    Dragon Man – DSHulk
    Black Panther CW – Serpent
    Nightcrawler – Serpent
    Spider-Gwen – Serpent
    Domino – OS
    Mojo – DShulk
    Ibom – DShulk
    Apocalypse – OS
    Sassy – DSHulk
    Killmonger – Onslaught/Serpent (team)
    Void – Onslaught
    Nick Fury – Onslaught
    Nameless Thanos – team but mostly Serpent

    Probably could have done without revive on Korg, but suddenly couldn’t parry and got clipped with ~33% health left on him. KM revive was also avoidable but by then I was headed to the homestretch and didn’t care.

    Dr. Zola

    That's a nice team. I wish my void was awakened. What were the pulls?
  • DrZolaDrZola Member Posts: 9,563 ★★★★★
    edited March 15

    DrZola said:

    Thanks for the guidance @AverageDesi

    Done with a solo revive and a team revive. Only used some of your team but advice was very useful.

    My counters…

    Ordeal:

    Doom – Onslaught
    Terrax – Onslaught
    Vision – DSHulk
    MODOK – Onslaught
    Ham – Serpent
    Weapon X – OS
    Thing – Void
    Korg – Onslaught (*)
    Dragon Man – DSHulk
    Black Panther CW – Serpent
    Nightcrawler – Serpent
    Spider-Gwen – Serpent
    Domino – OS
    Mojo – DShulk
    Ibom – DShulk
    Apocalypse – OS
    Sassy – DSHulk
    Killmonger – Onslaught/Serpent (team)
    Void – Onslaught
    Nick Fury – Onslaught
    Nameless Thanos – team but mostly Serpent

    Probably could have done without revive on Korg, but suddenly couldn’t parry and got clipped with ~33% health left on him. KM revive was also avoidable but by then I was headed to the homestretch and didn’t care.

    Dr. Zola

    That's a nice team. I wish my void was awakened. What were the pulls?
    Tech AG (one of my most wanted) plus these. More sigs on Chavez and you and I are talking Gentle in another thread 😂

    Dr. Zola




  • Herbal_TaxmanHerbal_Taxman Member Posts: 1,739 ★★★★★
    altavista said:

    Question about Onslaught for Doom - I know you mention the standard Onslaught fight, but I've given it a try a few times and Doom's Aura really messes with my timing of neuroshocks, pausing, and specials.

    Did you just push to SP2 and get the dex down, or is there some other strategy?

    What Squid said. I sometimes threw sp1 into the aura or even into a block, just to keep the neuros going. I also usually went to sp3 first to get a few dozen neuros going as a base.

    Sp3 is really your friend throughout the fight though. Will refresh the neuros that are active when you throw it, and you get a power back type effect so if you throw it with some neuros already active, it won’t cost three bars. I was getting stressed trying to nail the perfect sp2 rotation and get the 20 degens. I found with throwing the sp3 occasionally, I could get him up to 30-40 neuros, which did a find job of chipping him down.
  • Giantwalrus56Giantwalrus56 Member Posts: 1,290 ★★★★

    altavista said:

    Question about Onslaught for Doom - I know you mention the standard Onslaught fight, but I've given it a try a few times and Doom's Aura really messes with my timing of neuroshocks, pausing, and specials.

    Did you just push to SP2 and get the dex down, or is there some other strategy?

    What Squid said. I sometimes threw sp1 into the aura or even into a block, just to keep the neuros going. I also usually went to sp3 first to get a few dozen neuros going as a base.

    Sp3 is really your friend throughout the fight though. Will refresh the neuros that are active when you throw it, and you get a power back type effect so if you throw it with some neuros already active, it won’t cost three bars. I was getting stressed trying to nail the perfect sp2 rotation and get the 20 degens. I found with throwing the sp3 occasionally, I could get him up to 30-40 neuros, which did a find job of chipping him down.

    Thank you for this bit of info. As you & others have mentioned, I too struggled trying to get the as close to perfect sp2 onslaught rotation & have been failing miserably. I'm been contemplating bring Overseer mainly for Doom, but that messes with my overall team planning
  • Tempest_024Tempest_024 Member Posts: 151
    Would Shang Chi or Chee’ilth be better?
  • Average_DesiAverage_Desi Member Posts: 1,670 ★★★★

    Would Shang Chi or Chee’ilth be better?

    Shang would be better for BPCW, But Cheeilth should be better for Void. . There are runs on YouTube with Shang @Tempest_024
  • RyoDanRyoDan Member Posts: 4
    Jack2634 said:

    Nefaria is a solid replacement for Ham. He can do sassy, dragon man, mojo and killmonger extremely well. If you don't have deathless thanos, serpent is a great choice, he can do many fights. His evade also act as an intercept for thanos final phase

    Also, if you have done the GM gauntlet before, this ordeal will be much easier as you should know exactly what to do. They are just beefier healthpool with higher attack rating

    how can nefaria deal with killmonger ...
    im stuck there and got R3 Nefaria in my team
  • Jcarlos_2902Jcarlos_2902 Member Posts: 77
    Unfortunately I don't have D. Thanos
  • Frumpy_geezerFrumpy_geezer Member Posts: 164 ★★
    edited March 21
    RyoDan said:



    how can nefaria deal with killmonger ...
    im stuck there and got R3 Nefaria in my team

    I just finished and he was who I used for him. You'll gain power when he does and it's slow but he works. Bleed immunity helps.
  • RyoDanRyoDan Member Posts: 4

    RyoDan said:



    how can nefaria deal with killmonger ...
    im stuck there and got R3 Nefaria in my team

    I just finished and he was who I used for him. You'll gain power when he does and it's slow but he works. Bleed immunity helps.
    i tried but didnt get any power !
  • phillgreenphillgreen Member Posts: 4,450 ★★★★★
    edited March 27
    Finished my run today using the same team as OP but I screwed around with some of the attackers so didnt follow the exact order.

    Got a few solos which was good, had a few very expensive fights which was bad (looking at you Spider Gwen)

    First two paths were awful, second two fine. I lost a few solos due to stupid parry timing (my fault, turns out 38 coffees isn't the ideal prep) and Thanos being out in the world made him a lot easier to fight than the first times way back when.

    After Epoch and this, I hope there is no end game long form content coming for a little while, I'm a bit burned out and my reflexes aint what they were when I first started playing.

    Cost wise, not telling, but I would purchase the rewards for that amount of units every day of the week.

    Thanks for the write up @Average_Desi it was very helpful!



  • Average_DesiAverage_Desi Member Posts: 1,670 ★★★★

    Finished my run today using the same team as OP but I screwed around with some of the attackers so didnt follow the exact order.

    Got a few solos which was good, had a few very expensive fights which was bad (looking at you Spider Gwen)

    First two paths were awful, second two fine. I lost a few solos due to stupid parry timing (my fault, turns out 38 coffees isn't the ideal prep) and Thanos being out in the world made him a lot easier to fight than the first times way back when.

    After Epoch and this, I hope there is no end game long form content coming for a little while, I'm a bit burned out and my reflexes aint what they were when I first started playing.

    Cost wise, not telling, but I would purchase the rewards for that amount of units every day of the week.

    Thanks for the write up @Average_Desi it was very helpful!



    Congrats!!

    @phillgreen I'm curious, why was Psider Gwen bad? Was Thanos unawakened?
  • PseudouberPseudouber Member Posts: 897 ★★★
    You guys are freaks. lol. I just completed this and it took me like 60 or 70 revives. It was the worst time I've had in this game in a long time.
  • BogoBogo Member Posts: 175 ★★

    You guys are freaks. lol. I just completed this and it took me like 60 or 70 revives. It was the worst time I've had in this game in a long time.

    same here mate took me about 50 ish
  • phillgreenphillgreen Member Posts: 4,450 ★★★★★

    Finished my run today using the same team as OP but I screwed around with some of the attackers so didnt follow the exact order.

    Got a few solos which was good, had a few very expensive fights which was bad (looking at you Spider Gwen)

    First two paths were awful, second two fine. I lost a few solos due to stupid parry timing (my fault, turns out 38 coffees isn't the ideal prep) and Thanos being out in the world made him a lot easier to fight than the first times way back when.

    After Epoch and this, I hope there is no end game long form content coming for a little while, I'm a bit burned out and my reflexes aint what they were when I first started playing.

    Cost wise, not telling, but I would purchase the rewards for that amount of units every day of the week.

    Thanks for the write up @Average_Desi it was very helpful!



    Congrats!!

    @phillgreen I'm curious, why was Psider Gwen bad? Was Thanos unawakened?
    Rank 4 and sig200.

    Just couldn't get in the groove, it seemed like Gwen evaded out of everything but I'm also terribly impatient on occasion.

  • Average_DesiAverage_Desi Member Posts: 1,670 ★★★★

    Finished my run today using the same team as OP but I screwed around with some of the attackers so didnt follow the exact order.

    Got a few solos which was good, had a few very expensive fights which was bad (looking at you Spider Gwen)

    First two paths were awful, second two fine. I lost a few solos due to stupid parry timing (my fault, turns out 38 coffees isn't the ideal prep) and Thanos being out in the world made him a lot easier to fight than the first times way back when.

    After Epoch and this, I hope there is no end game long form content coming for a little while, I'm a bit burned out and my reflexes aint what they were when I first started playing.

    Cost wise, not telling, but I would purchase the rewards for that amount of units every day of the week.

    Thanks for the write up @Average_Desi it was very helpful!



    Congrats!!

    @phillgreen I'm curious, why was Psider Gwen bad? Was Thanos unawakened?
    Rank 4 and sig200.

    Just couldn't get in the groove, it seemed like Gwen evaded out of everything but I'm also terribly impatient on occasion.

    What about the panic debuff?
  • HungaryHippoHungaryHippo Member Posts: 1,108 ★★★★
    edited March 29
    Used 1 revive(Domino strikes again)... Team was NTW, Serpent, Onslaught, DSH, and Titania
  • phillgreenphillgreen Member Posts: 4,450 ★★★★★

    Finished my run today using the same team as OP but I screwed around with some of the attackers so didnt follow the exact order.

    Got a few solos which was good, had a few very expensive fights which was bad (looking at you Spider Gwen)

    First two paths were awful, second two fine. I lost a few solos due to stupid parry timing (my fault, turns out 38 coffees isn't the ideal prep) and Thanos being out in the world made him a lot easier to fight than the first times way back when.

    After Epoch and this, I hope there is no end game long form content coming for a little while, I'm a bit burned out and my reflexes aint what they were when I first started playing.

    Cost wise, not telling, but I would purchase the rewards for that amount of units every day of the week.

    Thanks for the write up @Average_Desi it was very helpful!



    Congrats!!

    @phillgreen I'm curious, why was Psider Gwen bad? Was Thanos unawakened?
    Rank 4 and sig200.

    Just couldn't get in the groove, it seemed like Gwen evaded out of everything but I'm also terribly impatient on occasion.

    What about the panic debuff?
    Not much to say, I sucked.
Sign In or Register to comment.