Nightmare was supposed to be hard and players had choice which one to choose.
It takes guts that tackling something that hard for first time and then being thrashed by bugs. So players got compensated for it.
For normal raids, if there is comp pack decided then it should be what normal one gives.
If Kabam decides that they should give same comp regardless which raid players chose, that's fair game as they are Dev's.
But logically Normal raids aren't entitled to comp intended for Nightmare ones. Our ally took down Apoc but with certain frustration due to bugs. And our last Bg played normal raids as they don't wanted to get stuck in new raids as it was new content.
Nightmar raids were busted and was trial & error for players. Players who are part of this experiment should be compensated.
But if there is comp for bugs in general then yeah it should be equal to every player whether they are proven or valiant.
To clarify. THIS level of compensation just going out to the teams that dove in is insane. Thats a huge advantage over other people. Our alliance KNEW there would be bugs so we waited out joining and didnt join only because we were told not to. If wed have known theyd give us all that?!?! Of course we would have joined. Im not saying that the people who did it dont deserve more. But most higher tier players are ten year players who know how kabam releases go and avoided it BECAUSE of the bugs. So give them the compensation for items and resourses used absolutely. But everybody who participated in raids should get the crystal compensation. They missed out on the opportunity for rewards also. They just chose to avoid it instead of waste resourses.
In one of my comments on other thread about other topic I commented something about ENTITLED END GAMERS OR SO CALLED END GAMERS
Just cuz you are Endgamer, doesn't make you entitled for everything. 1) Raids are chosen before it goes live. So your excuse for not choosing due to bugs is blatant lie 2)If there is something which affects only certain player base, then that player base is entitled for a compensation if Kabam decides to give. 3)If you are not part of a content which got affected for which a compensation is announced, what right do you have got to claim it? 4) Doing a content or not doing it, it depends upon on a player. It's their choice. If you don't make a choice then you also find get rewards & compensation for not making that choice.
As I said many times, most player I have seen on forums who claim themselves Endgamers usually beg everything for free. I didn't do Ares fight untill it goes fixed. I waited. Those who did it got some revives ( not enough tho) as comp. Did I rant about it? Did I complaint about it? No, because I never did that fight when it was affected and I knew that. So I never deserved a comp for that not I asked. Simple.
Do the content. Take risk. Then hope for rewards. And if there is some issue from Game side, you deserve your comp. Period
Disagree all you want. Im right. Giving out rng based compensation should go to everybody who missed out due to the bugs. Even the ones who avoided it because of the bugs
I missed my deadline of project knowing there would be storm tomorrow and office won't function. So I didn't go to office
But guess what My colleague did his work and ruined his dress and also his project work. So my office boss decided to reimburse him for that even tho project was messy
Shall I complain to Practice head for not getting the same reimbursement like my colleague got for his work which he chose depsite the challenges and got wrecked meanwhile I was chilling on sofa and taking day off????
My alliance decided not to join Nightmare raids because everyone said it was bugged. I’m an end game player and feel like a part of the community is completely missing out because we decided to hold back. This was a chance for Kabam to give back to the whole community considering what’s going on.
What do you think?
Don't listen to anyone. You go ahead. Never give up. I'm with you. Full virtual support.
Give everyone compensation I have an lvl 10 alt. It can use a titan and a basic 7* and gold. The t4a will expire but ehh.
Man I thought u were singing a song at the beginning of your post.
(not weighing in on whether it should go out to everyone or not, but).
Were these the “jackpot, lottery” pulls the sum of EVERY crystal being a jackpot hit earned along the way ? Titan + another 7* + Cats + the Essence (although that's understandable, people confused about which choice was actually offering what level of rewards on that last crystal) etc.
Although they probably should have included the kitchen sink too (as well as the simple napkin and paper clip that @ ahmynuts wanted)
Don't you enlist before raids start? So clearly you didn't do normal raids because of the bugs but chose to beforehand. People will say anything for free rewards😂
This is exactly how things operated in years past. Make some horrible mistakes, then fairly compensate your customers. No pitchforks come out when you just make amends.
I’m stuck on the claim that this comp will give “a huge advantage” to people who get it. I don’t see anything here that is that substantive. It’s very good comp, but it’s not account changing by any means. Like, if there was a T7B, I would see your point. But it’s r3 materials which are obtainable through tons of other sources in game already. An extra Titan crystal is rad, but like… it’s one crystal. It’s not gonna suddenly take you from struggling in the VT to top 10 in BGs. A lot of people are just gonna get sigs on champs they already have duped, I’m sure.
Again, I think this comp is great, but I don’t see how you can make a claim like yours that it will upset game balance somehow. That’s just so far off the mark, it’s silly.
Disagree all you want. Im right. Giving out rng based compensation should go to everybody who missed out due to the bugs. Even the ones who avoided it because of the bugs
Explain how you knew the bugs would 100% happen and I'll agree. Selection of Nightmare Raids had to happen before we knew it was going to be the spectacle it was. You can say that all new content seems to be bugged, but there wasn't a guarantee this was an issue.
Disagree all you want. Im right. Giving out rng based compensation should go to everybody who missed out due to the bugs. Even the ones who avoided it because of the bugs
So you want a participation trophy for not participating? Not how it works champ, sorry.
Disagree all you want. Im right. Giving out rng based compensation should go to everybody who missed out due to the bugs. Even the ones who avoided it because of the bugs
I've asked this in other threads. How did you avoid it because of the bugs? How did you know the bugs existed before raids started?
I do think this is frustratingly a no-win situation for Kabam, and a no-win situation for a large swath of the player base.
My alliance also decided to "sit this one out" after seeing pretty much immediately how bugged and messed up Nightmare Raids was.
We also got communication on the form, literally DIRECTLY from the team, that "the issues aren't that bad" or that a lot of it is "working as intended," so for them to come out NOW and drop what is insanely the greatest compensation packet ever, it does sting. I will say, it feels like a crazy overcorrection.
It sucks, and I'm really mad I'm missing out. But there's no pleasing everyone and someone's bound to get screwed in these things.
Oh well, it is what it is. I'm just going to pretend that if I got that Titan crystal, I surely must've pulled a Red Hulk and just move on with my life.
Our alliance did the Nightmare Raids and as the name suggests..it was a freaking nightmare! We got our butts kicked. Some of us had to buy that Potions bundle. All those units we ground for all these weeks..gone! We managed to explore it..kudos to my teammates!! Regular Raids do not cost a thing..
So, I guess the compensation is exactly for that..All that effort, pain and waste of resources.
Now, what these people are asking for is just like a 7-year old who want the same Present that his friend got for ranking 1st in the class even though he, himself failed. Absolutely ridiculous!
Actually, for me, I agree and here is why. There are some alliances that jumped in and stopped at the first fight and didnt continue or use any resources and they get the rewards for doing nothing. While this will not affect me as I quit my alliance because I was fed up, I think all alliances should get this reward IF you are going to give to one who simply joined but did nothing else.
I do think this is frustratingly a no-win situation for Kabam, and a no-win situation for a large swath of the player base.
My alliance also decided to "sit this one out" after seeing pretty much immediately how bugged and messed up Nightmare Raids was.
We also got communication on the form, literally DIRECTLY from the team, that "the issues aren't that bad" or that a lot of it is "working as intended," so for them to come out NOW and drop what is insanely the greatest compensation packet ever, it does sting. I will say, it feels like a crazy overcorrection.
It sucks, and I'm really mad I'm missing out. But there's no pleasing everyone and someone's bound to get screwed in these things.
Oh well, it is what it is. I'm just going to pretend that if I got that Titan crystal, I surely must've pulled a Red Hulk and just move on with my life.
You messed up on your 2nd point bud. You can't know if something is Bugged or not untill it's live. So that's a blatant lie mate
Only one possibility is there that you had night mare raids on but didn't joined that Bg due to bugs. So whoever joined that Bg regardless if they completed or not getting the comp. But from your statment it seems you didn't played Nightmare on any Bg. It's quite confusing. Or maybe you used sarcasm about that.
The compensation should cover everyone who took part in raids, regardless regular or nightmare. Some battlegroups decided to go for normal ones based on how bugged the game was.
Actually, for me, I agree and here is why. There are some alliances that jumped in and stopped at the first fight and didnt continue or use any resources and they get the rewards for doing nothing. While this will not affect me as I quit my alliance because I was fed up, I think all alliances should get this reward IF you are going to give to one who simply joined but did nothing else.
That's the exact reason why comp is only for those who participated in Night mare raids. Due to bugs and over tuning many couldn't complete it. As a gesture they are getting this comp.
Such a silly post. I for one am glad Kabam decided NOT to reward alliances that let others do the dirty work for them for once. My alliance pushed through and 100% explored all 3 bgs. It was a painful and frustrating experience very easily one of if not the worst content Kabam ever released. That being said it would have really grinded my gears if an alliance that was too cowardly to take on the challenge was rewarded for their cowardice. Kudos to Kabam best compensation in years.
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Nightmare was supposed to be hard and players had choice which one to choose.
It takes guts that tackling something that hard for first time and then being thrashed by bugs. So players got compensated for it.
For normal raids, if there is comp pack decided then it should be what normal one gives.
If Kabam decides that they should give same comp regardless which raid players chose, that's fair game as they are Dev's.
But logically Normal raids aren't entitled to comp intended for Nightmare ones. Our ally took down Apoc but with certain frustration due to bugs. And our last Bg played normal raids as they don't wanted to get stuck in new raids as it was new content.
Nightmar raids were busted and was trial & error for players. Players who are part of this experiment should be compensated.
But if there is comp for bugs in general then yeah it should be equal to every player whether they are proven or valiant.
To clarify. THIS level of compensation just going out to the teams that dove in is insane. Thats a huge advantage over other people. Our alliance KNEW there would be bugs so we waited out joining and didnt join only because we were told not to. If wed have known theyd give us all that?!?! Of course we would have joined. Im not saying that the people who did it dont deserve more. But most higher tier players are ten year players who know how kabam releases go and avoided it BECAUSE of the bugs. So give them the compensation for items and resourses used absolutely. But everybody who participated in raids should get the crystal compensation. They missed out on the opportunity for rewards also. They just chose to avoid it instead of waste resourses.
Just cuz you are Endgamer, doesn't make you entitled for everything.
1) Raids are chosen before it goes live. So your excuse for not choosing due to bugs is blatant lie
2)If there is something which affects only certain player base, then that player base is entitled for a compensation if Kabam decides to give.
3)If you are not part of a content which got affected for which a compensation is announced, what right do you have got to claim it?
4) Doing a content or not doing it, it depends upon on a player. It's their choice. If you don't make a choice then you also find get rewards & compensation for not making that choice.
As I said many times, most player I have seen on forums who claim themselves Endgamers usually beg everything for free.
I didn't do Ares fight untill it goes fixed. I waited. Those who did it got some revives ( not enough tho) as comp. Did I rant about it? Did I complaint about it?
No, because I never did that fight when it was affected and I knew that. So I never deserved a comp for that not I asked. Simple.
Do the content. Take risk. Then hope for rewards. And if there is some issue from Game side, you deserve your comp.
Period
But guess what
My colleague did his work and ruined his dress and also his project work. So my office boss decided to reimburse him for that even tho project was messy
Shall I complain to Practice head for not getting the same reimbursement like my colleague got for his work which he chose depsite the challenges and got wrecked meanwhile I was chilling on sofa and taking day off????
Were these the “jackpot, lottery” pulls the sum of EVERY crystal being a jackpot hit earned along the way ?
Titan
+ another 7*
+ Cats
+ the Essence (although that's understandable, people confused about which choice was actually offering what level of rewards on that last crystal)
etc.
Although they probably should have included the kitchen sink too (as well as the simple napkin and paper clip that @ ahmynuts wanted)
So clearly you didn't do normal raids because of the bugs but chose to beforehand.
People will say anything for free rewards😂
Hmmm
This is exactly how things operated in years past. Make some horrible mistakes, then fairly compensate your customers. No pitchforks come out when you just make amends.
Again, I think this comp is great, but I don’t see how you can make a claim like yours that it will upset game balance somehow. That’s just so far off the mark, it’s silly.
My alliance also decided to "sit this one out" after seeing pretty much immediately how bugged and messed up Nightmare Raids was.
We also got communication on the form, literally DIRECTLY from the team, that "the issues aren't that bad" or that a lot of it is "working as intended," so for them to come out NOW and drop what is insanely the greatest compensation packet ever, it does sting. I will say, it feels like a crazy overcorrection.
It sucks, and I'm really mad I'm missing out. But there's no pleasing everyone and someone's bound to get screwed in these things.
Oh well, it is what it is. I'm just going to pretend that if I got that Titan crystal, I surely must've pulled a Red Hulk and just move on with my life.
We got our butts kicked. Some of us had to buy that Potions bundle. All those units we ground for all these weeks..gone!
We managed to explore it..kudos to my teammates!!
Regular Raids do not cost a thing..
So, I guess the compensation is exactly for that..All that effort, pain and waste of resources.
Now, what these people are asking for is just like a 7-year old who want the same Present that his friend got for ranking 1st in the class even though he, himself failed. Absolutely ridiculous!
Only one possibility is there that you had night mare raids on but didn't joined that Bg due to bugs. So whoever joined that Bg regardless if they completed or not getting the comp. But from your statment it seems you didn't played Nightmare on any Bg. It's quite confusing. Or maybe you used sarcasm about that.