Ibom is not really the best for bgs, mainly cuz of inequity. He just suffers being in the wrong class. Science is so stacked so a very stacked attacker like ibom seems mid.
Tbh for most content, ibom has better dps and is a better attacker in general than the other two (nick nd apoc).
Just ciz there are 10 other good champs doesn't mean ibom is bad. Especially because for some players ibom is going to be their only good science champ (he is my first r4 science and I didn't had anyone else at that time, no scorp and torch and s99 and other sciences are mid asf).
I think he will be very good once the Inequity thing is changed tho, the science class is still stacked no doubt about it but I do think he has the potential to be in the top 10, maybe top 5 science depending how much damage he dishes out with stat focus.
Stat focus is a minor boost it not going to be crazy but still worth it i stopped playing slightly after he got released so never got to tried him.
Yeah a few crits here and there wouldn't hurt. I gotta say at first I was annoyed but now I'm actually a bit excited about him being in it cause the Inequity change is huge. I think more people will come around once they get to use him with the buff in place.
But if I read it right he kind of need max sig for bg.
If you're punching a bunch of ranks above yeah he might need high sig, same rank probably not.
Suprised no one mentioned Ikaris being a potential candidate
Because he's not a potential candidate lol.
if thor has a chance, ikaris has a chance and the champion too
Thor hits harder than Ikaris and has way shorter ramp, they're on different levels in terms of attack. The both barely have any utility but at least Thor has armor break which is helpful for some annoying techs. You could make an argument on defense but that's it so I don't see how he could have a chance.
Suprised no one mentioned Ikaris being a potential candidate
Because he's not a potential candidate lol.
if thor has a chance, ikaris has a chance and the champion too
Thor hits harder than Ikaris and has way shorter ramp, they're on different levels in terms of attack. The both barely have any utility but at least Thor has armor break which is helpful for some annoying techs. You could make an argument on defense but that's it so I don't see how he could have a chance.
"both barely have utility" my brother in christ all thor has is that armour break and 40% shock resistance he's obscenely outdated
ikaris has full shock and incinerate immunity with minor poison resistance, access to extreme amounts of incinerates, can throw special attacks like no tomorrow and has access to more buffs than thor has.
sure thor has more damage and can get fights done faster than ikaris, but ikaris can handle far more fights than thor can.
Suprised no one mentioned Ikaris being a potential candidate
Because he's not a potential candidate lol.
if thor has a chance, ikaris has a chance and the champion too
Thor hits harder than Ikaris and has way shorter ramp, they're on different levels in terms of attack. The both barely have any utility but at least Thor has armor break which is helpful for some annoying techs. You could make an argument on defense but that's it so I don't see how he could have a chance.
"both barely have utility" my brother in christ all thor has is that armour break and 40% shock resistance he's obscenely outdated
ikaris has full shock and incinerate immunity with minor poison resistance, access to extreme amounts of incinerates, can throw special attacks like no tomorrow and has access to more buffs than thor has.
sure thor has more damage and can get fights done faster than ikaris, but ikaris can handle far more fights than thor can.
All that "utility" you mention ends up being drowned out by the horrible damage output he has for the first 90 seconds of the fight required to ramp him up "my brother in Christ". If you like mid champs just say that nobody's gonna judge you for it, but let's not pretend that they're actually powerful cause they're not 💀
The only defenders Thor can't handle are the ones with armor break immunity, purifiers (Ikaris can't do those) or the ones that punish buffs (Ikaris can't do those either) so I've no idea what you're even talking about, copium I guess.
This thread appears to have attracted the unpopular opinion squad for some weird reason lol "Valk > Nick", "Ikaris is a powerful champ", up next "Groot is a top defender with that unpredictable unblockable one hit sp2".
Suprised no one mentioned Ikaris being a potential candidate
Because he's not a potential candidate lol.
if thor has a chance, ikaris has a chance and the champion too
Thor hits harder than Ikaris and has way shorter ramp, they're on different levels in terms of attack. The both barely have any utility but at least Thor has armor break which is helpful for some annoying techs. You could make an argument on defense but that's it so I don't see how he could have a chance.
"both barely have utility" my brother in christ all thor has is that armour break and 40% shock resistance he's obscenely outdated
ikaris has full shock and incinerate immunity with minor poison resistance, access to extreme amounts of incinerates, can throw special attacks like no tomorrow and has access to more buffs than thor has.
sure thor has more damage and can get fights done faster than ikaris, but ikaris can handle far more fights than thor can.
The only defenders Thor can't handle are the ones with armor break immunity, purifiers (Ikaris can't do those) or the ones that punish buffs (Ikaris can't do those either) so I've no idea what you're even talking about, copium I guess.
areas that Ikaris handles better than Thor:
- Armour Break immune matchups - Shock heavy fights (i.e. Hazard Shift or the node that Epoch Nebula has) - Incinerate heavy fights (i.e. Hazard Shift and others) - Regeneration heavy fights /w despair (far more reliable than outdamaging it) - Buffed Up or buff required matchups (Ikaris gets more buffs far more quickly than Thor can) - Diss Track or debuff required matchups (many incinerate debuffs) - Dust (many incinerate debuffs) - Matchups where you need to throw a lot of Special Attacks
areas that Thor handles better than Ikaris:
- the few fights that are basically Realm of Legends Winter Soldier
Suprised no one mentioned Ikaris being a potential candidate
Because he's not a potential candidate lol.
if thor has a chance, ikaris has a chance and the champion too
Thor hits harder than Ikaris and has way shorter ramp, they're on different levels in terms of attack. The both barely have any utility but at least Thor has armor break which is helpful for some annoying techs. You could make an argument on defense but that's it so I don't see how he could have a chance.
"both barely have utility" my brother in christ all thor has is that armour break and 40% shock resistance he's obscenely outdated
ikaris has full shock and incinerate immunity with minor poison resistance, access to extreme amounts of incinerates, can throw special attacks like no tomorrow and has access to more buffs than thor has.
sure thor has more damage and can get fights done faster than ikaris, but ikaris can handle far more fights than thor can.
The only defenders Thor can't handle are the ones with armor break immunity, purifiers (Ikaris can't do those) or the ones that punish buffs (Ikaris can't do those either) so I've no idea what you're even talking about, copium I guess.
areas that Ikaris handles better than Thor:
- Armour Break immune matchups - Shock heavy fights (i.e. Hazard Shift or the node that Epoch Nebula has) - Incinerate heavy fights (i.e. Hazard Shift and others) - Regeneration heavy fights /w despair (far more reliable than outdamaging it) - Buffed Up or buff required matchups (Ikaris gets more buffs far more quickly than Thor can) - Diss Track or debuff required matchups (many incinerate debuffs) - Dust (many incinerate debuffs)
areas that Thor handles better than Ikaris:
- Realm of Legends
And yet he'd still be faster for virtually any BGs matchup cause Ikaris' ramp is almost as bad as War Machine's lmao.
Suprised no one mentioned Ikaris being a potential candidate
Because he's not a potential candidate lol.
if thor has a chance, ikaris has a chance and the champion too
Thor hits harder than Ikaris and has way shorter ramp, they're on different levels in terms of attack. The both barely have any utility but at least Thor has armor break which is helpful for some annoying techs. You could make an argument on defense but that's it so I don't see how he could have a chance.
"both barely have utility" my brother in christ all thor has is that armour break and 40% shock resistance he's obscenely outdated
ikaris has full shock and incinerate immunity with minor poison resistance, access to extreme amounts of incinerates, can throw special attacks like no tomorrow and has access to more buffs than thor has.
sure thor has more damage and can get fights done faster than ikaris, but ikaris can handle far more fights than thor can.
The only defenders Thor can't handle are the ones with armor break immunity, purifiers (Ikaris can't do those) or the ones that punish buffs (Ikaris can't do those either) so I've no idea what you're even talking about, copium I guess.
areas that Ikaris handles better than Thor:
- Armour Break immune matchups - Shock heavy fights (i.e. Hazard Shift or the node that Epoch Nebula has) - Incinerate heavy fights (i.e. Hazard Shift and others) - Regeneration heavy fights /w despair (far more reliable than outdamaging it) - Buffed Up or buff required matchups (Ikaris gets more buffs far more quickly than Thor can) - Diss Track or debuff required matchups (many incinerate debuffs) - Dust (many incinerate debuffs)
areas that Thor handles better than Ikaris:
- Realm of Legends
And yet he'd still be faster for virtually any BGs matchup cause Ikaris' ramp is almost as bad as War Machine's lmao.
Suprised no one mentioned Ikaris being a potential candidate
Because he's not a potential candidate lol.
if thor has a chance, ikaris has a chance and the champion too
Thor hits harder than Ikaris and has way shorter ramp, they're on different levels in terms of attack. The both barely have any utility but at least Thor has armor break which is helpful for some annoying techs. You could make an argument on defense but that's it so I don't see how he could have a chance.
"both barely have utility" my brother in christ all thor has is that armour break and 40% shock resistance he's obscenely outdated
ikaris has full shock and incinerate immunity with minor poison resistance, access to extreme amounts of incinerates, can throw special attacks like no tomorrow and has access to more buffs than thor has.
sure thor has more damage and can get fights done faster than ikaris, but ikaris can handle far more fights than thor can.
The only defenders Thor can't handle are the ones with armor break immunity, purifiers (Ikaris can't do those) or the ones that punish buffs (Ikaris can't do those either) so I've no idea what you're even talking about, copium I guess.
areas that Ikaris handles better than Thor:
- Armour Break immune matchups - Shock heavy fights (i.e. Hazard Shift or the node that Epoch Nebula has) - Incinerate heavy fights (i.e. Hazard Shift and others) - Regeneration heavy fights /w despair (far more reliable than outdamaging it) - Buffed Up or buff required matchups (Ikaris gets more buffs far more quickly than Thor can) - Diss Track or debuff required matchups (many incinerate debuffs) - Dust (many incinerate debuffs)
areas that Thor handles better than Ikaris:
- Realm of Legends
And yet he'd still be faster for virtually any BGs matchup cause Ikaris' ramp is almost as bad as War Machine's lmao.
the dealbreaker with thor is it's way to easy to ruin his only utility (damage). if you cant stun or armor break or keep armor breaks which happens in a lot of situations, he loses everything.
the dealbreaker with thor is it's way to easy to ruin his only utility (damage). if you cant stun or armor break or keep armor breaks which happens in a lot of situations, he loses everything.
fun to play but pretty niche.
I agree 100% but I don't get why he gets so much hate when people use and praise Sunspot all the time for the damage alone, he has no utility other than incinerate immunity and perfect block, and has zero defensive value whatsoever. His sole purpose is to be a BGs nuke, it's the same deal with Thor.
the dealbreaker with thor is it's way to easy to ruin his only utility (damage). if you cant stun or armor break or keep armor breaks which happens in a lot of situations, he loses everything.
fun to play but pretty niche.
I agree 100% but I don't get why he gets so much hate when people use and praise Sunspot all the time for the damage alone, he has no utility other than incinerate immunity and perfect block, and has zero defensive value whatsoever. His sole purpose is to be a BGs nuke, it's the same deal with Thor.
theres no way you're saying thor is as good as sunspot 💀💀💀
the dealbreaker with thor is it's way to easy to ruin his only utility (damage). if you cant stun or armor break or keep armor breaks which happens in a lot of situations, he loses everything.
fun to play but pretty niche.
I agree 100% but I don't get why he gets so much hate when people use and praise Sunspot all the time for the damage alone, he has no utility other than incinerate immunity and perfect block, and has zero defensive value whatsoever. His sole purpose is to be a BGs nuke, it's the same deal with Thor.
Cause even if the opponent is incinerate immune or a debuff shrugger, sunspot can nuke . Thor cant. Sunpot has energy based hits and physical damage. Has tons of debuffs, power gain, yadda yadda.
Also, Perfect block is a super good utility if your game looks like this cause every health point is important unlike questing
Suprised no one mentioned Ikaris being a potential candidate
Because he's not a potential candidate lol.
if thor has a chance, ikaris has a chance and the champion too
Thor hits harder than Ikaris and has way shorter ramp, they're on different levels in terms of attack. The both barely have any utility but at least Thor has armor break which is helpful for some annoying techs. You could make an argument on defense but that's it so I don't see how he could have a chance.
"both barely have utility" my brother in christ all thor has is that armour break and 40% shock resistance he's obscenely outdated
ikaris has full shock and incinerate immunity with minor poison resistance, access to extreme amounts of incinerates, can throw special attacks like no tomorrow and has access to more buffs than thor has.
sure thor has more damage and can get fights done faster than ikaris, but ikaris can handle far more fights than thor can.
The only defenders Thor can't handle are the ones with armor break immunity, purifiers (Ikaris can't do those) or the ones that punish buffs (Ikaris can't do those either) so I've no idea what you're even talking about, copium I guess.
areas that Ikaris handles better than Thor:
- Armour Break immune matchups - Shock heavy fights (i.e. Hazard Shift or the node that Epoch Nebula has) - Incinerate heavy fights (i.e. Hazard Shift and others) - Regeneration heavy fights /w despair (far more reliable than outdamaging it) - Buffed Up or buff required matchups (Ikaris gets more buffs far more quickly than Thor can) - Diss Track or debuff required matchups (many incinerate debuffs) - Dust (many incinerate debuffs)
areas that Thor handles better than Ikaris:
- Realm of Legends
And yet he'd still be faster for virtually any BGs matchup cause Ikaris' ramp is almost as bad as War Machine's lmao.
the dealbreaker with thor is it's way to easy to ruin his only utility (damage). if you cant stun or armor break or keep armor breaks which happens in a lot of situations, he loses everything.
fun to play but pretty niche.
I agree 100% but I don't get why he gets so much hate when people use and praise Sunspot all the time for the damage alone, he has no utility other than incinerate immunity and perfect block, and has zero defensive value whatsoever. His sole purpose is to be a BGs nuke, it's the same deal with Thor.
theres no way you're saying thor is as good as sunspot 💀💀💀
That is correct that's not what I said at all, I simply stated Thor in his current is a BGs nuke, nothing else.
the dealbreaker with thor is it's way to easy to ruin his only utility (damage). if you cant stun or armor break or keep armor breaks which happens in a lot of situations, he loses everything.
fun to play but pretty niche.
I agree 100% but I don't get why he gets so much hate when people use and praise Sunspot all the time for the damage alone, he has no utility other than incinerate immunity and perfect block, and has zero defensive value whatsoever. His sole purpose is to be a BGs nuke, it's the same deal with Thor.
theres no way you're saying thor is as good as sunspot 💀💀💀
That is correct that's not what I said at all, I simply stated Thor in his current is a BGs nuke, nothing else.
dude you shot down sunspot's strengths to try and level him with thor in that their "sole purpose is to be a BG nuke"
that is quite literally you saying that you think thor is as good as sunspot
the dealbreaker with thor is it's way to easy to ruin his only utility (damage). if you cant stun or armor break or keep armor breaks which happens in a lot of situations, he loses everything.
fun to play but pretty niche.
I agree 100% but I don't get why he gets so much hate when people use and praise Sunspot all the time for the damage alone, he has no utility other than incinerate immunity and perfect block, and has zero defensive value whatsoever. His sole purpose is to be a BGs nuke, it's the same deal with Thor.
Cause even if the opponent is incinerate immune or a debuff shrugger, sunspot can nuke . Thor cant. Sunpot has energy based hits and physical damage. Has tons of debuffs, power gain, yadda yadda.
Also, Perfect block is a super good utility if your game looks like this cause every health point is important unlike questing
Suprised no one mentioned Ikaris being a potential candidate
Because he's not a potential candidate lol.
if thor has a chance, ikaris has a chance and the champion too
Thor hits harder than Ikaris and has way shorter ramp, they're on different levels in terms of attack. The both barely have any utility but at least Thor has armor break which is helpful for some annoying techs. You could make an argument on defense but that's it so I don't see how he could have a chance.
"both barely have utility" my brother in christ all thor has is that armour break and 40% shock resistance he's obscenely outdated
ikaris has full shock and incinerate immunity with minor poison resistance, access to extreme amounts of incinerates, can throw special attacks like no tomorrow and has access to more buffs than thor has.
sure thor has more damage and can get fights done faster than ikaris, but ikaris can handle far more fights than thor can.
The only defenders Thor can't handle are the ones with armor break immunity, purifiers (Ikaris can't do those) or the ones that punish buffs (Ikaris can't do those either) so I've no idea what you're even talking about, copium I guess.
areas that Ikaris handles better than Thor:
- Armour Break immune matchups - Shock heavy fights (i.e. Hazard Shift or the node that Epoch Nebula has) - Incinerate heavy fights (i.e. Hazard Shift and others) - Regeneration heavy fights /w despair (far more reliable than outdamaging it) - Buffed Up or buff required matchups (Ikaris gets more buffs far more quickly than Thor can) - Diss Track or debuff required matchups (many incinerate debuffs) - Dust (many incinerate debuffs)
areas that Thor handles better than Ikaris:
- Realm of Legends
And yet he'd still be faster for virtually any BGs matchup cause Ikaris' ramp is almost as bad as War Machine's lmao.
I didn't say he was better than Sunspot, all I said was he's meant to be all damage little utility which is true. Also, acting like Sunspot has a lot of utility is just not true some of the stuff you mentioned isn't even relevant utility, realistically the power gain and the perfect block are the only two things that matter in his kit for BGs. Having a lot of incinerate debuffs is not utility it does nothing for you other than shutting down WP which in BGs does nothing cause sp1 sp2 kills anything regardless. The energy based hits also do nothing because the only matchup where that would matter is Korg and if you've ever tried that against a high sig Korg you know there's a 50% chance you won't kill him if he gets good purify rng. Also, if the defender is incinerate immune Sunspot is not exactly a nuke anymore, you have to build three bars normally with no power gain which takes roughly 40-45 secs.
the dealbreaker with thor is it's way to easy to ruin his only utility (damage). if you cant stun or armor break or keep armor breaks which happens in a lot of situations, he loses everything.
fun to play but pretty niche.
I agree 100% but I don't get why he gets so much hate when people use and praise Sunspot all the time for the damage alone, he has no utility other than incinerate immunity and perfect block, and has zero defensive value whatsoever. His sole purpose is to be a BGs nuke, it's the same deal with Thor.
theres no way you're saying thor is as good as sunspot 💀💀💀
That is correct that's not what I said at all, I simply stated Thor in his current is a BGs nuke, nothing else.
dude you shot down sunspot's strengths to try and level him with thor in that their "sole purpose is to be a BG nuke"
that is quite literally you saying that you think thor is as good as sunspot
I said Sunspot is little utility all damage, and Thor is also little utility all damage, that is what I mean by "it's the same deal with Thor", not that they're on the same level. At no point did I specifically compare power levels or state one was better or just as strong as the other, you're just mad that I laughed at you for calling Ikaris a potential candidate in a crystal that contains Nick, Apoc and iBom, and if the next champ happens to be Nimrod or Doom/Claire your comment is only going to sound even more absurd lmao.
the dealbreaker with thor is it's way to easy to ruin his only utility (damage). if you cant stun or armor break or keep armor breaks which happens in a lot of situations, he loses everything.
fun to play but pretty niche.
I agree 100% but I don't get why he gets so much hate when people use and praise Sunspot all the time for the damage alone, he has no utility other than incinerate immunity and perfect block, and has zero defensive value whatsoever. His sole purpose is to be a BGs nuke, it's the same deal with Thor.
theres no way you're saying thor is as good as sunspot 💀💀💀
That is correct that's not what I said at all, I simply stated Thor in his current is a BGs nuke, nothing else.
dude you shot down sunspot's strengths to try and level him with thor in that their "sole purpose is to be a BG nuke"
that is quite literally you saying that you think thor is as good as sunspot
I said Sunspot is little utility all damage, and Thor is also little utility all damage, that is what I mean by "it's the same deal with Thor", not that they're on the same level. At no point did I specifically compare power levels or state one was better or just as strong as the other, you're just mad that I laughed at you for calling Ikaris a potential candidate in a crystal that contains Nick, Apoc and iBom, and if the next champ happens to be Nimrod or Doom/Claire your comment is only going to sound even more absurd lmao.
He just like ikaris just like how you like thor. It's a personal preference. But you act like 7* thor is going to be account changing and meta, which he's not. If hhe's released at his current state, not even 5% of playerbase who get him will be remotely interested him.
You both should give up and stop fighting, it doesn't matter if they put thor Or ikaris Or Annihilius, anyone who is unlucky to pull the cosmic champ out of that crystal is just unlucky. But at least for bgs anihilius could be a sneaky defender.
the dealbreaker with thor is it's way to easy to ruin his only utility (damage). if you cant stun or armor break or keep armor breaks which happens in a lot of situations, he loses everything.
fun to play but pretty niche.
I agree 100% but I don't get why he gets so much hate when people use and praise Sunspot all the time for the damage alone, he has no utility other than incinerate immunity and perfect block, and has zero defensive value whatsoever. His sole purpose is to be a BGs nuke, it's the same deal with Thor.
theres no way you're saying thor is as good as sunspot 💀💀💀
That is correct that's not what I said at all, I simply stated Thor in his current is a BGs nuke, nothing else.
dude you shot down sunspot's strengths to try and level him with thor in that their "sole purpose is to be a BG nuke"
that is quite literally you saying that you think thor is as good as sunspot
I said Sunspot is little utility all damage, and Thor is also little utility all damage, that is what I mean by "it's the same deal with Thor", not that they're on the same level. At no point did I specifically compare power levels or state one was better or just as strong as the other, you're just mad that I laughed at you for calling Ikaris a potential candidate in a crystal that contains Nick, Apoc and iBom, and if the next champ happens to be Nimrod or Doom/Claire your comment is only going to sound even more absurd lmao.
He just like ikaris just like how you like thor. It's a personal preference. But you act like 7* thor is going to be account changing and meta, which he's not. If hhe's released at his current state, not even 5% of playerbase who get him will be remotely interested him.
You both should give up and stop fighting, it doesn't matter if they put thor Or ikaris Or Annihilius, anyone who is unlucky to pull the cosmic champ out of that crystal is just unlucky. But at least for bgs anihilius could be a sneaky defender.
You underestimate the power of youtube. Get ready for that "R4 Ikaris is beyond god tier" video if he ends up being in the crystal.
the dealbreaker with thor is it's way to easy to ruin his only utility (damage). if you cant stun or armor break or keep armor breaks which happens in a lot of situations, he loses everything.
fun to play but pretty niche.
I agree 100% but I don't get why he gets so much hate when people use and praise Sunspot all the time for the damage alone, he has no utility other than incinerate immunity and perfect block, and has zero defensive value whatsoever. His sole purpose is to be a BGs nuke, it's the same deal with Thor.
theres no way you're saying thor is as good as sunspot 💀💀💀
That is correct that's not what I said at all, I simply stated Thor in his current is a BGs nuke, nothing else.
dude you shot down sunspot's strengths to try and level him with thor in that their "sole purpose is to be a BG nuke"
that is quite literally you saying that you think thor is as good as sunspot
I said Sunspot is little utility all damage, and Thor is also little utility all damage, that is what I mean by "it's the same deal with Thor", not that they're on the same level. At no point did I specifically compare power levels or state one was better or just as strong as the other, you're just mad that I laughed at you for calling Ikaris a potential candidate in a crystal that contains Nick, Apoc and iBom, and if the next champ happens to be Nimrod or Doom/Claire your comment is only going to sound even more absurd lmao.
He just like ikaris just like how you like thor. It's a personal preference. But you act like 7* thor is going to be account changing and meta, which he's not. If hhe's released at his current state, not even 5% of playerbase who get him will be remotely interested him.
You both should give up and stop fighting, it doesn't matter if they put thor Or ikaris Or Annihilius, anyone who is unlucky to pull the cosmic champ out of that crystal is just unlucky. But at least for bgs anihilius could be a sneaky defender.
You underestimate the power of youtube. Get ready for that "R4 Ikaris is beyond god tier" video if he ends up being in the crystal.
the dealbreaker with thor is it's way to easy to ruin his only utility (damage). if you cant stun or armor break or keep armor breaks which happens in a lot of situations, he loses everything.
fun to play but pretty niche.
I agree 100% but I don't get why he gets so much hate when people use and praise Sunspot all the time for the damage alone, he has no utility other than incinerate immunity and perfect block, and has zero defensive value whatsoever. His sole purpose is to be a BGs nuke, it's the same deal with Thor.
theres no way you're saying thor is as good as sunspot 💀💀💀
That is correct that's not what I said at all, I simply stated Thor in his current is a BGs nuke, nothing else.
dude you shot down sunspot's strengths to try and level him with thor in that their "sole purpose is to be a BG nuke"
that is quite literally you saying that you think thor is as good as sunspot
I said Sunspot is little utility all damage, and Thor is also little utility all damage, that is what I mean by "it's the same deal with Thor", not that they're on the same level. At no point did I specifically compare power levels or state one was better or just as strong as the other, you're just mad that I laughed at you for calling Ikaris a potential candidate in a crystal that contains Nick, Apoc and iBom, and if the next champ happens to be Nimrod or Doom/Claire your comment is only going to sound even more absurd lmao.
He just like ikaris just like how you like thor. It's a personal preference. But you act like 7* thor is going to be account changing and meta, which he's not. If hhe's released at his current state, not even 5% of playerbase who get him will be remotely interested him.
You both should give up and stop fighting, it doesn't matter if they put thor Or ikaris Or Annihilius, anyone who is unlucky to pull the cosmic champ out of that crystal is just unlucky. But at least for bgs anihilius could be a sneaky defender.
Show me a single comment where I called him account changing or meta and I'll delete my account permanently right now lol I even said in one of the comments above that he's the filler champ, you even replied to it yourself. I don't want a 7* Thor cause that would mean sig 200 or nothing so no I never said or implied he'll be account changing that's you putting words in my mouth, what I did say however is I don't get the hate in general. He's not at Ikaris level of mediocre for people to be dogging on him that much. He's mid, but not trash, and his ramp certainly doesn't take two whole minutes.
the dealbreaker with thor is it's way to easy to ruin his only utility (damage). if you cant stun or armor break or keep armor breaks which happens in a lot of situations, he loses everything.
fun to play but pretty niche.
I agree 100% but I don't get why he gets so much hate when people use and praise Sunspot all the time for the damage alone, he has no utility other than incinerate immunity and perfect block, and has zero defensive value whatsoever. His sole purpose is to be a BGs nuke, it's the same deal with Thor.
theres no way you're saying thor is as good as sunspot 💀💀💀
That is correct that's not what I said at all, I simply stated Thor in his current is a BGs nuke, nothing else.
dude you shot down sunspot's strengths to try and level him with thor in that their "sole purpose is to be a BG nuke"
that is quite literally you saying that you think thor is as good as sunspot
I said Sunspot is little utility all damage, and Thor is also little utility all damage, that is what I mean by "it's the same deal with Thor", not that they're on the same level. At no point did I specifically compare power levels or state one was better or just as strong as the other, you're just mad that I laughed at you for calling Ikaris a potential candidate in a crystal that contains Nick, Apoc and iBom, and if the next champ happens to be Nimrod or Doom/Claire your comment is only going to sound even more absurd lmao.
He just like ikaris just like how you like thor. It's a personal preference. But you act like 7* thor is going to be account changing and meta, which he's not. If hhe's released at his current state, not even 5% of playerbase who get him will be remotely interested him.
You both should give up and stop fighting, it doesn't matter if they put thor Or ikaris Or Annihilius, anyone who is unlucky to pull the cosmic champ out of that crystal is just unlucky. But at least for bgs anihilius could be a sneaky defender.
You underestimate the power of youtube. Get ready for that "R4 Ikaris is beyond god tier" video if he ends up being in the crystal.
Then we can all point and laugh if and when that happens 💀
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Nobody is getting excited to pull that turd. If kabam wants to kill all hype then yeah announce Ikaris 🤣
Cosmic: Thor/Ikaris/Hulkling
Mystic: BWCV/Doom
Tech: Viv/Nim
ikaris has full shock and incinerate immunity with minor poison resistance, access to extreme amounts of incinerates, can throw special attacks like no tomorrow and has access to more buffs than thor has.
sure thor has more damage and can get fights done faster than ikaris, but ikaris can handle far more fights than thor can.
The only defenders Thor can't handle are the ones with armor break immunity, purifiers (Ikaris can't do those) or the ones that punish buffs (Ikaris can't do those either) so I've no idea what you're even talking about, copium I guess.
- Armour Break immune matchups
- Shock heavy fights (i.e. Hazard Shift or the node that Epoch Nebula has)
- Incinerate heavy fights (i.e. Hazard Shift and others)
- Regeneration heavy fights /w despair (far more reliable than outdamaging it)
- Buffed Up or buff required matchups (Ikaris gets more buffs far more quickly than Thor can)
- Diss Track or debuff required matchups (many incinerate debuffs)
- Dust (many incinerate debuffs)
- Matchups where you need to throw a lot of Special Attacks
areas that Thor handles better than Ikaris:
- the few fights that are basically Realm of Legends Winter Soldier
fun to play but pretty niche.
Also, Perfect block is a super good utility if your game looks like this cause every health point is important unlike questing
that is quite literally you saying that you think thor is as good as sunspot
You both should give up and stop fighting, it doesn't matter if they put thor Or ikaris Or Annihilius, anyone who is unlucky to pull the cosmic champ out of that crystal is just unlucky.
But at least for bgs anihilius could be a sneaky defender.