Light Essence Availability

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  • XlebXleb Member Posts: 717 ★★★
    BigBlueOx said:

    It will swap over to the essence for the next Eidol in June (with the new Saga).

    Good evening, I hope to have an answer it would be nice of you :) why didn't you allow to have more than 12 free gasoline for an idol? I exclude the top 1 in versus and top 100 in bg it's impossible for most people, thank you
    Eidols are regular release champions, each taking up one of the slots in our 23 champion regular release roadmap. In fact, because of their unique designs, they are some of the more resource intensive regular release champions. If we start giving those champions away for free to tens of thousands of players we would be out of business pretty quickly. We were generous with Isophene because it was our tenth anniversary but it's not viable to make that the norm.
    I think that’s fair.

    But - Does this mean that there won’t be a Deathless-Like Quest or challenge related to having all the Eidols? I think knowing that one way or the other would be super informative and helpful in deciding what to do.
    It is quite obvious that if it had been, they would have warned in advance, as was the case with Deathless.
  • BigBlueOxBigBlueOx Member Posts: 2,924 ★★★★★
    Xleb said:

    BigBlueOx said:

    It will swap over to the essence for the next Eidol in June (with the new Saga).

    Good evening, I hope to have an answer it would be nice of you :) why didn't you allow to have more than 12 free gasoline for an idol? I exclude the top 1 in versus and top 100 in bg it's impossible for most people, thank you
    Eidols are regular release champions, each taking up one of the slots in our 23 champion regular release roadmap. In fact, because of their unique designs, they are some of the more resource intensive regular release champions. If we start giving those champions away for free to tens of thousands of players we would be out of business pretty quickly. We were generous with Isophene because it was our tenth anniversary but it's not viable to make that the norm.
    I think that’s fair.

    But - Does this mean that there won’t be a Deathless-Like Quest or challenge related to having all the Eidols? I think knowing that one way or the other would be super informative and helpful in deciding what to do.
    It is quite obvious that if it had been, they would have warned in advance, as was the case with Deathless.
    Im not brave enough to make that assumption based on various other events
  • XlebXleb Member Posts: 717 ★★★
    BigBlueOx said:

    Xleb said:

    BigBlueOx said:

    It will swap over to the essence for the next Eidol in June (with the new Saga).

    Good evening, I hope to have an answer it would be nice of you :) why didn't you allow to have more than 12 free gasoline for an idol? I exclude the top 1 in versus and top 100 in bg it's impossible for most people, thank you
    Eidols are regular release champions, each taking up one of the slots in our 23 champion regular release roadmap. In fact, because of their unique designs, they are some of the more resource intensive regular release champions. If we start giving those champions away for free to tens of thousands of players we would be out of business pretty quickly. We were generous with Isophene because it was our tenth anniversary but it's not viable to make that the norm.
    I think that’s fair.

    But - Does this mean that there won’t be a Deathless-Like Quest or challenge related to having all the Eidols? I think knowing that one way or the other would be super informative and helpful in deciding what to do.
    It is quite obvious that if it had been, they would have warned in advance, as was the case with Deathless.
    Im not brave enough to make that assumption based on various other events
    Consider that what you answered is the developer's answer. On one of his last streams, he said that "in the case of Deathless, we warned you from the very beginning that Thanos was coming and you would need all 7* Deathless champions before him, but we didn't say anything like that about Eidols." And besides, Kabam aren't crazy enough to make a special quest for champions that are very hard to get (we'll honestly, all Deathless could be easily obtained if you didn't miss the pieces)
  • XlebXleb Member Posts: 717 ★★★

    I believe the price of Lumatrix was presented very poorly by Kabam. They should have stated clearly that only the top 10 players in BGs can get Lumatrix for free, while the rest will have to pay around $50. If I had known this information, I definitely wouldn’t have bought the platinum track.

    Dude, they warned about this on the first day of its announcement.
  • Ak47hardhitter1Ak47hardhitter1 Member Posts: 64
    edited April 23
    My Current Eidol Champions.

    Rank 2 7 Star Isophyne awakened sig 20 im not gonna rank her up further or put signature stones into her until she gets buff or rebalanced or something the damage needs to be better I was hyped for her release.

    Rank 2 7 Star Lumatrix awakened sig 40 almost looks like a rank 3 7 star absolutely amazing release champion brilliant design and damage love the phasing non stop can't wait to rank 3 7 star Lumatrix soon.



  • ahmynutsahmynuts Member Posts: 8,435 ★★★★★

    I believe the price of Lumatrix was presented very poorly by Kabam. They should have stated clearly that only the top 10 players in BGs can get Lumatrix for free, while the rest will have to pay around $50. If I had known this information, I definitely wouldn’t have bought the platinum track.

    They were so clear about that. It was what they were most clear about actually and part of the reason that stream got alot of backlash
  • Eternity0Eternity0 Member Posts: 117 ★★
    can the game team/crashed confirm if we save 12 light essence currency will we be able to purchase the next Eidol with the same currency or it will be a new currency when the next Eidol comes out?
  • FurrymoosenFurrymoosen Member Posts: 5,803 ★★★★★
    Eternity0 said:

    can the game team/crashed confirm if we save 12 light essence currency will we be able to purchase the next Eidol with the same currency or it will be a new currency when the next Eidol comes out?

    Literally in this same post. It'll be a new essence.
  • ahmynutsahmynuts Member Posts: 8,435 ★★★★★

    Eternity0 said:

    can the game team/crashed confirm if we save 12 light essence currency will we be able to purchase the next Eidol with the same currency or it will be a new currency when the next Eidol comes out?

    Literally in this same post. It'll be a new essence.

  • BKSwisherSweetBKSwisherSweet Member Posts: 190 ★★
    That feeling knowing that you’re F2P and not good enough is so Kabam
  • Kabam CrashedKabam Crashed Member, Game Team Posts: 367 ★★★★★
    Hello. I realize my comment earlier wasn't clear exactly what I meant.

    The sources for Light Essence will start sourcing the essence for the next Eidol. So for instance Raids and Weekely deals will have the new essence in them. Light Essence you own however will remain Light Essence.

    There are no planned additional sources for Light Essence after the end of the Saga. If you don't have enough for the 7-star, you can trade some for the 6-star or trade it for 7-star shards (this trade will become available at a later date)
  • Kabam CrashedKabam Crashed Member, Game Team Posts: 367 ★★★★★
    Also, while I'm not going to promise there will never be an event or objective that requires Eidols, there definitely won't be something exclusive that requires them (as in something like Deathless Thanos that you can't get anywhere else).
  • BigBlueOxBigBlueOx Member Posts: 2,924 ★★★★★

    Also, while I'm not going to promise there will never be an event or objective that requires Eidols, there definitely won't be something exclusive that requires them (as in something like Deathless Thanos that you can't get anywhere else).

    Thank you Crashed! Really appreciate you taking the time and offering up what you can
  • Average_DesiAverage_Desi Member Posts: 1,876 ★★★★★

    Hello. I realize my comment earlier wasn't clear exactly what I meant.

    The sources for Light Essence will start sourcing the essence for the next Eidol. So for instance Raids and Weekely deals will have the new essence in them. Light Essence you own however will remain Light Essence.

    There are no planned additional sources for Light Essence after the end of the Saga. If you don't have enough for the 7-star, you can trade some for the 6-star or trade it for 7-star shards (this trade will become available at a later date)

    Thanks for the clarification. I would respectfully suggest simplifying the naming strategy for this type of currency / resource in the next saga. If Light Essence is unique to the Lunatrix chase, just call it “Lumatrix essence.” The next currency for Eidol 3 could be “Eidol 3 essence.” Would eliminate all the current uncertainty.
    It's like how the deathless pieces had different character specific names like "Baseless Accusations" and "Sword of Something".

    Luminatrix's powers are light based and hence "Light Essence"
  • WednesdayLengthWednesdayLength Member Posts: 2,646 ★★★★★
    DinoHop05 said:

    Hello. I realize my comment earlier wasn't clear exactly what I meant.

    The sources for Light Essence will start sourcing the essence for the next Eidol. So for instance Raids and Weekely deals will have the new essence in them. Light Essence you own however will remain Light Essence.

    There are no planned additional sources for Light Essence after the end of the Saga. If you don't have enough for the 7-star, you can trade some for the 6-star or trade it for 7-star shards (this trade will become available at a later date)

    Just so I'm clear, you're saying that the Light Essence that is the top prize of high-level content like Nightmare Raids, Incursions Zone 15, and the AW Showcase are only worth some 7* shards if we don't want to pay the $30-40 to turn them into the new champ? Am I understanding correctly that you used the rewards "budget" on Light Essence that, except for paying players, have little to no value?
    The value of light essence is getting a guaranteed 7 star. The trade in isn't their value it's a consolation
  • FurrymoosenFurrymoosen Member Posts: 5,803 ★★★★★
    DinoHop05 said:

    Hello. I realize my comment earlier wasn't clear exactly what I meant.

    The sources for Light Essence will start sourcing the essence for the next Eidol. So for instance Raids and Weekely deals will have the new essence in them. Light Essence you own however will remain Light Essence.

    There are no planned additional sources for Light Essence after the end of the Saga. If you don't have enough for the 7-star, you can trade some for the 6-star or trade it for 7-star shards (this trade will become available at a later date)

    Just so I'm clear, you're saying that the Light Essence that is the top prize of high-level content like Nightmare Raids, Incursions Zone 15, and the AW Showcase are only worth some 7* shards if we don't want to pay the $30-40 to turn them into the new champ? Am I understanding correctly that you used the rewards "budget" on Light Essence that, except for paying players, have little to no value?
    You seem awfully surprised by information that came out weeks ago.
  • DinoHop05DinoHop05 Member Posts: 83 ★★

    DinoHop05 said:

    Hello. I realize my comment earlier wasn't clear exactly what I meant.

    The sources for Light Essence will start sourcing the essence for the next Eidol. So for instance Raids and Weekely deals will have the new essence in them. Light Essence you own however will remain Light Essence.

    There are no planned additional sources for Light Essence after the end of the Saga. If you don't have enough for the 7-star, you can trade some for the 6-star or trade it for 7-star shards (this trade will become available at a later date)

    Just so I'm clear, you're saying that the Light Essence that is the top prize of high-level content like Nightmare Raids, Incursions Zone 15, and the AW Showcase are only worth some 7* shards if we don't want to pay the $30-40 to turn them into the new champ? Am I understanding correctly that you used the rewards "budget" on Light Essence that, except for paying players, have little to no value?
    You seem awfully surprised by information that came out weeks ago.
    Show where the information that Light Essence would not transfer was shared "weeks ago."
  • Average_DesiAverage_Desi Member Posts: 1,876 ★★★★★
    DinoHop05 said:

    DinoHop05 said:

    Hello. I realize my comment earlier wasn't clear exactly what I meant.

    The sources for Light Essence will start sourcing the essence for the next Eidol. So for instance Raids and Weekely deals will have the new essence in them. Light Essence you own however will remain Light Essence.

    There are no planned additional sources for Light Essence after the end of the Saga. If you don't have enough for the 7-star, you can trade some for the 6-star or trade it for 7-star shards (this trade will become available at a later date)

    Just so I'm clear, you're saying that the Light Essence that is the top prize of high-level content like Nightmare Raids, Incursions Zone 15, and the AW Showcase are only worth some 7* shards if we don't want to pay the $30-40 to turn them into the new champ? Am I understanding correctly that you used the rewards "budget" on Light Essence that, except for paying players, have little to no value?
    You seem awfully surprised by information that came out weeks ago.
    Show where the information that Light Essence would not transfer was shared "weeks ago."
    Why would you assume Light Essence would be transferred to whatever it is?

    Anytime there has been an event or chase where we had to collect pieces for a Champion, there was no provision to transfer the pieces. But every time there was a provision to convert those pieces to shards or other items.
  • FieryWaterFieryWater Member Posts: 54
    @Kabam Crashed can you confirm if there are any plans to add the 7* idols to the basic crystals at any point?
  • captain_rogerscaptain_rogers Member Posts: 12,456 ★★★★★

    @Kabam Crashed can you confirm if there are any plans to add the 7* idols to the basic crystals at any point?

    They will get added after 9 months, when the other champ released with them enters basic. It already is a well known fact. They skip titan period that's a all
  • Herbal_TaxmanHerbal_Taxman Member Posts: 1,840 ★★★★★

    Hello. I realize my comment earlier wasn't clear exactly what I meant.

    The sources for Light Essence will start sourcing the essence for the next Eidol. So for instance Raids and Weekely deals will have the new essence in them. Light Essence you own however will remain Light Essence.

    There are no planned additional sources for Light Essence after the end of the Saga. If you don't have enough for the 7-star, you can trade some for the 6-star or trade it for 7-star shards (this trade will become available at a later date)

    Thanks for the clarification. I would respectfully suggest simplifying the naming strategy for this type of currency / resource in the next saga. If Light Essence is unique to the Lunatrix chase, just call it “Lumatrix essence.” The next currency for Eidol 3 could be “Eidol 3 essence.” Would eliminate all the current uncertainty.
    It's like how the deathless pieces had different character specific names like "Baseless Accusations" and "Sword of Something".

    Luminatrix's powers are light based and hence "Light Essence"

    Yes, some of us probably make a clear connection between “Lum” or “Luma” and “light.” However, judging by the questions on here lately, many many more people don’t see that connection.

    I get the desire on Kabam’s part for creativity in names, but I’d argue for most players simpler is better.
  • Steam97Steam97 Member Posts: 289 ★★★

    Also, while I'm not going to promise there will never be an event or objective that requires Eidols, there definitely won't be something exclusive that requires them (as in something like Deathless Thanos that you can't get anywhere else).

    So since I won't get 7 star lumatrix do u suggest getting the 6 star version for a future content/objective or should I just get the 7 star shards when they'll be available?
  • DinoHop05DinoHop05 Member Posts: 83 ★★

    DinoHop05 said:

    DinoHop05 said:

    Hello. I realize my comment earlier wasn't clear exactly what I meant.

    The sources for Light Essence will start sourcing the essence for the next Eidol. So for instance Raids and Weekely deals will have the new essence in them. Light Essence you own however will remain Light Essence.

    There are no planned additional sources for Light Essence after the end of the Saga. If you don't have enough for the 7-star, you can trade some for the 6-star or trade it for 7-star shards (this trade will become available at a later date)

    Just so I'm clear, you're saying that the Light Essence that is the top prize of high-level content like Nightmare Raids, Incursions Zone 15, and the AW Showcase are only worth some 7* shards if we don't want to pay the $30-40 to turn them into the new champ? Am I understanding correctly that you used the rewards "budget" on Light Essence that, except for paying players, have little to no value?
    You seem awfully surprised by information that came out weeks ago.
    Show where the information that Light Essence would not transfer was shared "weeks ago."
    Why would you assume Light Essence would be transferred to whatever it is?

    Anytime there has been an event or chase where we had to collect pieces for a Champion, there was no provision to transfer the pieces. But every time there was a provision to convert those pieces to shards or other items.
    I didn't assume. Don't know why you assumed that I did.

    Never before has a chase champion been locked behind a paywall while also providing "free" sources of the currency. This is new, so wondering how it would work isn't crazy.
  • Average_DesiAverage_Desi Member Posts: 1,876 ★★★★★
    DinoHop05 said:

    DinoHop05 said:

    DinoHop05 said:

    Hello. I realize my comment earlier wasn't clear exactly what I meant.

    The sources for Light Essence will start sourcing the essence for the next Eidol. So for instance Raids and Weekely deals will have the new essence in them. Light Essence you own however will remain Light Essence.

    There are no planned additional sources for Light Essence after the end of the Saga. If you don't have enough for the 7-star, you can trade some for the 6-star or trade it for 7-star shards (this trade will become available at a later date)

    Just so I'm clear, you're saying that the Light Essence that is the top prize of high-level content like Nightmare Raids, Incursions Zone 15, and the AW Showcase are only worth some 7* shards if we don't want to pay the $30-40 to turn them into the new champ? Am I understanding correctly that you used the rewards "budget" on Light Essence that, except for paying players, have little to no value?
    You seem awfully surprised by information that came out weeks ago.
    Show where the information that Light Essence would not transfer was shared "weeks ago."
    Why would you assume Light Essence would be transferred to whatever it is?

    Anytime there has been an event or chase where we had to collect pieces for a Champion, there was no provision to transfer the pieces. But every time there was a provision to convert those pieces to shards or other items.
    I didn't assume. Don't know why you assumed that I did.

    Never before has a chase champion been locked behind a paywall while also providing "free" sources of the currency. This is new, so wondering how it would work isn't crazy.
    You asked where they mentioned that Light Essence would be transferred. Why would you even ask that unless you expected or assumed otherwise.

    It's not drastically different. And as hard as it is to get, it isn't paywalled. So it is not any different from the other chases except for that fact that is is harder.

    Every chase so far has had "walls". Whether it is by time or effort. Many people have missed out in champions because they didn't log in to the game.
  • PeregrinusPeregrinus Member Posts: 54
    If I understood it correctly, Kabam made Light Essence the top reward (final chest in RAID, zone 15 in Incursions, and so on), which will be completely useless for most players.

    If they wanted to shove that damn Lumatrix behind a paywall, why the hell didn’t they just put him in some $40 crystal? Why are they bothering most players with this ****?

  • Average_DesiAverage_Desi Member Posts: 1,876 ★★★★★

    If I understood it correctly, Kabam made Light Essence the top reward (final chest in RAID, zone 15 in Incursions, and so on), which will be completely useless for most players.

    If they wanted to shove that damn Lumatrix behind a paywall, why the hell didn’t they just put him in some $40 crystal? Why are they bothering most players with this ****?

    Was there anything you had to go out of your way to get those pieces? It was content which you would've done regardless
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