HoF make anyone want to quit the game?

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  • ContestOfNoobsContestOfNoobs Member Posts: 2,216 ★★★★★

    It was a fun read, see you in two months for July 4th deals 😀

    LOL I’ll prob make a 4th of July of my pulls also.

    I’m currently saving for new Titan…

    But since pulling alll the champions

    I’m thinking I should get dark pheonix, awaken my nick with the heart of fire gem and dupe my tigra from selecttor

    I’m in a de




  • SkunkcabbageSkunkcabbage Member Posts: 570 ★★★
    ESF said:

    ESF said:

    ESF said:

    ESF said:

    ESF said:

    This post by the OP is why I have been a solo player for years — this game has NEVER been any different. NEVER.

    Once or twice a year, you MIGHT get a selector in which you get to pick exactly what you want. Even those weren’t around at the beginning.

    This event is no different than probably 95 percent of the events Kabam has run for the last decade. Ten years! It’s almost always this, where RNG decides.

    I’m not telling anyone to “just leave.” People can come and go as they please.

    But what do you want us to say? Good luck in the future? Sorry you didn’t get the kit that wasn’t promised to anyone and that a lot of other people didn’t get — but you not getting it and quitting is more important than everyone else who didn’t?

    You can quit. You can tell everyone else you’re quitting. You can create a shell alliance and park your account there for the next 10 years.

    But at the end of the day, what do you want any of us to say? The events have worked this way almost always for THE LAST TEN YEARS!

    You don't have to comment TBH, it's feedback of sentiment to Kabam ultimately. You can just walk by and ignore.

    7* NF hasn't been in an exclusive crystal in the last "TEN YEARS", different situations are different based on the context. You can't say this SPECIFIC situation with HOF has homogeneity with the last 10 years, it has it's own set of unique circumstances.
    See, that is the whiny response that makes people say “just leave.” You are the one who literally posted on an open forum — that was you!

    I don’t have to comment. You don’t have to post. You don’t have to respond to my comment.

    It’s a feedback loop that starts with you wanting to whine about not getting one thing you wanted and pretending that it’s actually “feedback for Kabam.”

    Feedback to not do the thing they do for 10 years?

    Congratulations — this is the first time they heard that one! I am sure they’ll never do it again because you said so!
    IMO you're being very whiny here but I'm being decent about not calling you out for it.

    You're right, I don't have to post, you don't have to reply, nobody has to post anything. This forum doesn't even have to be here. None of it is actually needed per se.

    Again, this isn't the same thing they've done for 10 years, I'm not sure how I can communicate that to you, it has it's own set of circumstances and your stance is overly reductive.

    I'm not "pretending" to give feedback - this is actual feedback. It's not a pretend post, I'm not cosplaying as a forum poster. I'm informing stakeholders (primarily Kabam, as I alluded to earlier) that the event was so poorly designed that it's led to me discontinuing play.

    If you're able to not reply any further then we can conclude our discussion, there's no need for anything further from you at this point. 👍
    Bye!
    So long 👋
    Please don't comment again, thank you. 👌
    Why do you care if I comment on a public forum on a game that you are uninstalling?

    How about we play a Friendly in Battlegrounds, hug it out?
    I'm just confirming that you HAVE to have the last word, which is amusing to me. You say nobody is making me post anything and reply to comments - the same is true of you, but your sense of pride and stubbornness keeps you coming back for more like a drug - you're addicted. 😂👌
    Ah. We have reached the stage of Psychological Analysis, where motives to post on a public forum are analyzed.

    “Last Word” isn’t a thing on a public forum. Someone always comments last. It’s not a thing.

    The forum is public — I have time. You telling someone “you don’t have to post anymore” on a public forum doesn’t mean anyone won’t, including me. Because the forum is public.

    It’s a Saturday morning on a public forum. It’s not that deep — just because we disagree doesn’t mean it’s ever going to be more than that, no matter how you want to say otherwise
    Is the BG friendly still on the table?
  • SkunkcabbageSkunkcabbage Member Posts: 570 ★★★
    Buttehrs said:

    ESF said:

    ESF said:

    ESF said:

    ESF said:

    This post by the OP is why I have been a solo player for years — this game has NEVER been any different. NEVER.

    Once or twice a year, you MIGHT get a selector in which you get to pick exactly what you want. Even those weren’t around at the beginning.

    This event is no different than probably 95 percent of the events Kabam has run for the last decade. Ten years! It’s almost always this, where RNG decides.

    I’m not telling anyone to “just leave.” People can come and go as they please.

    But what do you want us to say? Good luck in the future? Sorry you didn’t get the kit that wasn’t promised to anyone and that a lot of other people didn’t get — but you not getting it and quitting is more important than everyone else who didn’t?

    You can quit. You can tell everyone else you’re quitting. You can create a shell alliance and park your account there for the next 10 years.

    But at the end of the day, what do you want any of us to say? The events have worked this way almost always for THE LAST TEN YEARS!

    You don't have to comment TBH, it's feedback of sentiment to Kabam ultimately. You can just walk by and ignore.

    7* NF hasn't been in an exclusive crystal in the last "TEN YEARS", different situations are different based on the context. You can't say this SPECIFIC situation with HOF has homogeneity with the last 10 years, it has it's own set of unique circumstances.
    See, that is the whiny response that makes people say “just leave.” You are the one who literally posted on an open forum — that was you!

    I don’t have to comment. You don’t have to post. You don’t have to respond to my comment.

    It’s a feedback loop that starts with you wanting to whine about not getting one thing you wanted and pretending that it’s actually “feedback for Kabam.”

    Feedback to not do the thing they do for 10 years?

    Congratulations — this is the first time they heard that one! I am sure they’ll never do it again because you said so!
    IMO you're being very whiny here but I'm being decent about not calling you out for it.

    You're right, I don't have to post, you don't have to reply, nobody has to post anything. This forum doesn't even have to be here. None of it is actually needed per se.

    Again, this isn't the same thing they've done for 10 years, I'm not sure how I can communicate that to you, it has it's own set of circumstances and your stance is overly reductive.

    I'm not "pretending" to give feedback - this is actual feedback. It's not a pretend post, I'm not cosplaying as a forum poster. I'm informing stakeholders (primarily Kabam, as I alluded to earlier) that the event was so poorly designed that it's led to me discontinuing play.

    If you're able to not reply any further then we can conclude our discussion, there's no need for anything further from you at this point. 👍
    Bye!
    So long 👋
    Please don't comment again, thank you. 👌
    Why do you care if I comment on a public forum on a game that you are uninstalling?

    How about we play a Friendly in Battlegrounds, hug it out?
    I'm just confirming that you HAVE to have the last word, which is amusing to me. You say nobody is making me post anything and reply to comments - the same is true of you, but your sense of pride and stubbornness keeps you coming back for more like a drug - you're addicted. 😂👌
    Could say the exact same thing about you at this point though. You also apparently need the last word and can't stop cause your also addicted.
    They tried to make me go to rehab but I said no, no, no
  • ESFESF Member Posts: 2,106 ★★★★★

    ESF said:

    ESF said:

    ESF said:

    ESF said:

    ESF said:

    This post by the OP is why I have been a solo player for years — this game has NEVER been any different. NEVER.

    Once or twice a year, you MIGHT get a selector in which you get to pick exactly what you want. Even those weren’t around at the beginning.

    This event is no different than probably 95 percent of the events Kabam has run for the last decade. Ten years! It’s almost always this, where RNG decides.

    I’m not telling anyone to “just leave.” People can come and go as they please.

    But what do you want us to say? Good luck in the future? Sorry you didn’t get the kit that wasn’t promised to anyone and that a lot of other people didn’t get — but you not getting it and quitting is more important than everyone else who didn’t?

    You can quit. You can tell everyone else you’re quitting. You can create a shell alliance and park your account there for the next 10 years.

    But at the end of the day, what do you want any of us to say? The events have worked this way almost always for THE LAST TEN YEARS!

    You don't have to comment TBH, it's feedback of sentiment to Kabam ultimately. You can just walk by and ignore.

    7* NF hasn't been in an exclusive crystal in the last "TEN YEARS", different situations are different based on the context. You can't say this SPECIFIC situation with HOF has homogeneity with the last 10 years, it has it's own set of unique circumstances.
    See, that is the whiny response that makes people say “just leave.” You are the one who literally posted on an open forum — that was you!

    I don’t have to comment. You don’t have to post. You don’t have to respond to my comment.

    It’s a feedback loop that starts with you wanting to whine about not getting one thing you wanted and pretending that it’s actually “feedback for Kabam.”

    Feedback to not do the thing they do for 10 years?

    Congratulations — this is the first time they heard that one! I am sure they’ll never do it again because you said so!
    IMO you're being very whiny here but I'm being decent about not calling you out for it.

    You're right, I don't have to post, you don't have to reply, nobody has to post anything. This forum doesn't even have to be here. None of it is actually needed per se.

    Again, this isn't the same thing they've done for 10 years, I'm not sure how I can communicate that to you, it has it's own set of circumstances and your stance is overly reductive.

    I'm not "pretending" to give feedback - this is actual feedback. It's not a pretend post, I'm not cosplaying as a forum poster. I'm informing stakeholders (primarily Kabam, as I alluded to earlier) that the event was so poorly designed that it's led to me discontinuing play.

    If you're able to not reply any further then we can conclude our discussion, there's no need for anything further from you at this point. 👍
    Bye!
    So long 👋
    Please don't comment again, thank you. 👌
    Why do you care if I comment on a public forum on a game that you are uninstalling?

    How about we play a Friendly in Battlegrounds, hug it out?
    I'm just confirming that you HAVE to have the last word, which is amusing to me. You say nobody is making me post anything and reply to comments - the same is true of you, but your sense of pride and stubbornness keeps you coming back for more like a drug - you're addicted. 😂👌
    Ah. We have reached the stage of Psychological Analysis, where motives to post on a public forum are analyzed.

    “Last Word” isn’t a thing on a public forum. Someone always comments last. It’s not a thing.

    The forum is public — I have time. You telling someone “you don’t have to post anymore” on a public forum doesn’t mean anyone won’t, including me. Because the forum is public.

    It’s a Saturday morning on a public forum. It’s not that deep — just because we disagree doesn’t mean it’s ever going to be more than that, no matter how you want to say otherwise
    Is the BG friendly still on the table?
    Yep — same name, in-game. I am playing now. Totally serious, up to you. I just got done with a match, heading back in
  • altavistaaltavista Member Posts: 1,735 ★★★★★
    In response to OP's question, the answer is no, because I know exactly what this event is - pay units/money for milestone rewards and get crappy RNG from crystals.

    This is the same type of reaction people have to the Banquet - they look at the Banquet crystals content as being the reward they are buying, as opposed to buying milestone rewards with the crystal opening as a bonus.

    Aside from Dark Phoenix at the top milestone and a Selector at the penultimate milestone, no where else is there a guarantee that you will obtain exactly what you want.

    Yes, locking specific champions to this event is a method to create FOMO. But you can only blame yourself for expecting to pull your desired champion, as opposed to expecting nothing specifically.
  • Zacharias10719Zacharias10719 Member Posts: 91 ★★
    You came into this event only willing/able to spend enough units for the first 7* crystal and you only wanted Nick Fury and then you're angry that you didn't pull him? You had an 80% chance you were gonna **** out my man. The odds were so far stacked against you from the very beginning.

    This event has zero guarantee of getting what you want unless you go all in on it where it gives you the option of at least 1 of your wanted champs at the end if your luck is poor on the rng crystals.

    Anybody spending only enough to get the first 7* crystal has to do so either knowing that they might not/most likely won't if they only want 1 champ get what they want or be safe in the knowledge that they will be happy with what ever they pull. Getting angry at an rng event for having rng seems very strange to me.
  • SkunkcabbageSkunkcabbage Member Posts: 570 ★★★
    edited May 10

    You came into this event only willing/able to spend enough units for the first 7* crystal and you only wanted Nick Fury and then you're angry that you didn't pull him? You had an 80% chance you were gonna **** out my man. The odds were so far stacked against you from the very beginning.

    This event has zero guarantee of getting what you want unless you go all in on it where it gives you the option of at least 1 of your wanted champs at the end if your luck is poor on the rng crystals.

    Anybody spending only enough to get the first 7* crystal has to do so either knowing that they might not/most likely won't if they only want 1 champ get what they want or be safe in the knowledge that they will be happy with what ever they pull. Getting angry at an rng event for having rng seems very strange to me.

    NF shouldn't even be in this event he's too OP to be a trophy champ. Rolled the dice for a favorable outcome rather than throwing the towel in when they announced him on their Twitch stream. Not that strange to be to be honest if I have an issue with this and respond in kind to it.

    For reference, I hated the banquet event too, even though I reached the Isophyne dupe milestone, but at least there wasn't a totally broken champ and we had the box system to prevent dupes.
  • Greed_ExodusGreed_Exodus Member Posts: 470 ★★★
    I’m ftp and don’t have many units cause I quit doing arena for my mental stability lmao, but I managed to be lucky enough to yoink out a 7* tigra from the free crystals you get from the milestones, and she’s kinda dookie unduped, and now every bg match I try my opponent has a 7r4 dark phoenix and other nonsense whales can get but not me, so yeah this event kinda makes me feel defeated and burned out
  • Joker1976Joker1976 Member Posts: 934 ★★★★

    It was a fun read, see you in two months for July 4th deals 😀

    You didn't read it then 😂 My account is going into an alliance by itself and you can check the account over time to see that you're wrong.

    I realised I've spent on the double track and the 7* phoenix plumes, which I'm going to take as I've paid for them, but that's the extent to which I'll be waiting.

    I'm waiting to get what I paid for - on principle. I'm leaving MCOC because 7* NF being in that crystal and the structure of it is wrong, I'm acting on principle and doing what I say.

    It's interesting that you think you know me, inferring I'll be doing the opposite of what I've clearly stated. #gaslight
    If I got a dime for every single time I've read one of these only for the person to come back during the next event, I'd be a millionaire lol
    That's them, that's not me. Hopefully you understand we're different people.
    Indeed, most people wouldn't throw a tantrum because they didn't pull a champ out of a crystal, that's literally what you signed up for when you downloaded the game.
    There is truth to this statement.
    I used units up to the 7* crystal milestone and got ibomb,…(not what i was looking for).
    But it am not but hurt about it , i was just bored and wanted to try my luck.
    Not too concerned about July 4th either,..i’ll see what i can scrape up before then lol.
    Not a big deal,..and definitely not worth quitting the game over.
  • altavistaaltavista Member Posts: 1,735 ★★★★★
    edited May 11

    NF shouldn't even be in this event he's too OP to be a trophy champ. Rolled the dice for a favorable outcome rather than throwing the towel in when they announced him on their Twitch stream. Not that strange to be to be honest if I have an issue with this and respond in kind to it.

    For reference, I hated the banquet event too, even though I reached the Isophyne dupe milestone, but at least there wasn't a totally broken champ and we had the box system to prevent dupes.

    I mean, this right there is the whole problem with your approach. You're approach RNG events with an end result oriented approach.

    Setting aside the argument that NF is too OP to be in the HoF, you are essentially thinking:
    1/5 chance that you will be happy and have no complaints (and likely won't point out the NF is OP), and will keep playing the game.
    4/5 chance that you will be mad, have complaints that NF is OP, and feel like quitting the game.

    And if you truly think NF shouldn't have been included in the HoF crystal, you would have boycotted the event entirely and made a stink before you had the option of opening crystals.

    When you don’t win it’s easy to complain that the lottery takes advantage of poor people, but that fact that you buy a ticket in the hopes of winning means your argument is more self serving.
  • WayWorn2525WayWorn2525 Member Posts: 1,044 ★★★
    https://youtube.com/watch?v=Sd2gTU0y_FM

    For those that weren't lucky getting a 7* NF
  • ItsClobberinTimeItsClobberinTime Member Posts: 6,174 ★★★★★
    altavista said:

    NF shouldn't even be in this event he's too OP to be a trophy champ. Rolled the dice for a favorable outcome rather than throwing the towel in when they announced him on their Twitch stream. Not that strange to be to be honest if I have an issue with this and respond in kind to it.

    For reference, I hated the banquet event too, even though I reached the Isophyne dupe milestone, but at least there wasn't a totally broken champ and we had the box system to prevent dupes.

    I mean, this right there is the whole problem with your approach. You're approach RNG events with an end result oriented approach.

    Setting aside the argument that NF is too OP to be in the HoF, you are essentially thinking:
    1/5 chance that you will be happy and have no complaints (and likely won't point out the NF is OP), and will keep playing the game.
    4/5 chance that you will be mad, have complaints that NF is OP, and feel like quitting the game.

    And if you truly think NF shouldn't have been included in the HoF crystal, you would have boycotted the event entirely and made a stink before you had the option of opening crystals.

    When you don’t win it’s easy to complain that the lottery takes advantage of poor people, but that fact that you buy a ticket in the hopes of winning means your argument is more self serving.
    To add to everything said here, there was a selector in the milestones as well as an awakening gem, he could've in fact gotten anything he wanted if he really wanted it that bad. If Nick was this much of a big of a deal for him then he should've spent money or no lifed arena and EQ all difficulties (something I'm 100% against cause I don't have time for it but I know some people do) like other people did but he didn't he just wanted a guaranteed Nick for free.
  • ItsClobberinTimeItsClobberinTime Member Posts: 6,174 ★★★★★
    Joker1976 said:

    It was a fun read, see you in two months for July 4th deals 😀

    You didn't read it then 😂 My account is going into an alliance by itself and you can check the account over time to see that you're wrong.

    I realised I've spent on the double track and the 7* phoenix plumes, which I'm going to take as I've paid for them, but that's the extent to which I'll be waiting.

    I'm waiting to get what I paid for - on principle. I'm leaving MCOC because 7* NF being in that crystal and the structure of it is wrong, I'm acting on principle and doing what I say.

    It's interesting that you think you know me, inferring I'll be doing the opposite of what I've clearly stated. #gaslight
    If I got a dime for every single time I've read one of these only for the person to come back during the next event, I'd be a millionaire lol
    That's them, that's not me. Hopefully you understand we're different people.
    Indeed, most people wouldn't throw a tantrum because they didn't pull a champ out of a crystal, that's literally what you signed up for when you downloaded the game.
    There is truth to this statement.
    I used units up to the 7* crystal milestone and got ibomb,…(not what i was looking for).
    But it am not but hurt about it , i was just bored and wanted to try my luck.
    Not too concerned about July 4th either,..i’ll see what i can scrape up before then lol.
    Not a big deal,..and definitely not worth quitting the game over.
    Exactly, and you pretty much got that one 7* for free almost, very low unit cost anyone could afford it. He should be glad he got a free 7* at such a low cost regardless of which one it was. I had my own issues with this event such as the paywall which forced me to blow out my money on it due to Dark Phoenix FOMO since she is a 4.5/5 defender unlike JJ and Weapon X who are very niche these days. RNG however is definitely not one of them.
  • JESUSCHRISTJESUSCHRIST Member Posts: 1,545 ★★★★
    If players got to vote for the champions in each class that will be 7* in the HoF crystals, it would be even better and add in a cosmic champion in the crystal as well

    I mean who picked Apocalypse?
  • SkunkcabbageSkunkcabbage Member Posts: 570 ★★★

    Joker1976 said:

    It was a fun read, see you in two months for July 4th deals 😀

    You didn't read it then 😂 My account is going into an alliance by itself and you can check the account over time to see that you're wrong.

    I realised I've spent on the double track and the 7* phoenix plumes, which I'm going to take as I've paid for them, but that's the extent to which I'll be waiting.

    I'm waiting to get what I paid for - on principle. I'm leaving MCOC because 7* NF being in that crystal and the structure of it is wrong, I'm acting on principle and doing what I say.

    It's interesting that you think you know me, inferring I'll be doing the opposite of what I've clearly stated. #gaslight
    If I got a dime for every single time I've read one of these only for the person to come back during the next event, I'd be a millionaire lol
    That's them, that's not me. Hopefully you understand we're different people.
    Indeed, most people wouldn't throw a tantrum because they didn't pull a champ out of a crystal, that's literally what you signed up for when you downloaded the game.
    There is truth to this statement.
    I used units up to the 7* crystal milestone and got ibomb,…(not what i was looking for).
    But it am not but hurt about it , i was just bored and wanted to try my luck.
    Not too concerned about July 4th either,..i’ll see what i can scrape up before then lol.
    Not a big deal,..and definitely not worth quitting the game over.
    Exactly, and you pretty much got that one 7* for free almost, very low unit cost anyone could afford it. He should be glad he got a free 7* at such a low cost regardless of which one it was. I had my own issues with this event such as the paywall which forced me to blow out my money on it due to Dark Phoenix FOMO since she is a 4.5/5 defender unlike JJ and Weapon X who are very niche these days. RNG however is definitely not one of them.
    Okay pushed higher and got 2 more needing NF, here's outcome:






    The issue isn't "he just wanted 7* NF for free", the issue is - NF shouldn't be a trophy champ and we have to wait 1-2 years for him if we didn't manage to pull him here.

    He should've gone into the Titan pool, he's too OP. On top of that there's no key and box system like at the last event (banquet), so it's even more of an issue.

    I know it's more convenient for you to change what I've said what I don't like about the event to suit your narrative and disregard/minimise the issue I have with the decisions Kabam made for this event.
  • ItsClobberinTimeItsClobberinTime Member Posts: 6,174 ★★★★★

    Joker1976 said:

    It was a fun read, see you in two months for July 4th deals 😀

    You didn't read it then 😂 My account is going into an alliance by itself and you can check the account over time to see that you're wrong.

    I realised I've spent on the double track and the 7* phoenix plumes, which I'm going to take as I've paid for them, but that's the extent to which I'll be waiting.

    I'm waiting to get what I paid for - on principle. I'm leaving MCOC because 7* NF being in that crystal and the structure of it is wrong, I'm acting on principle and doing what I say.

    It's interesting that you think you know me, inferring I'll be doing the opposite of what I've clearly stated. #gaslight
    If I got a dime for every single time I've read one of these only for the person to come back during the next event, I'd be a millionaire lol
    That's them, that's not me. Hopefully you understand we're different people.
    Indeed, most people wouldn't throw a tantrum because they didn't pull a champ out of a crystal, that's literally what you signed up for when you downloaded the game.
    There is truth to this statement.
    I used units up to the 7* crystal milestone and got ibomb,…(not what i was looking for).
    But it am not but hurt about it , i was just bored and wanted to try my luck.
    Not too concerned about July 4th either,..i’ll see what i can scrape up before then lol.
    Not a big deal,..and definitely not worth quitting the game over.
    Exactly, and you pretty much got that one 7* for free almost, very low unit cost anyone could afford it. He should be glad he got a free 7* at such a low cost regardless of which one it was. I had my own issues with this event such as the paywall which forced me to blow out my money on it due to Dark Phoenix FOMO since she is a 4.5/5 defender unlike JJ and Weapon X who are very niche these days. RNG however is definitely not one of them.
    Okay pushed higher and got 2 more needing NF, here's outcome:






    The issue isn't "he just wanted 7* NF for free", the issue is - NF shouldn't be a trophy champ and we have to wait 1-2 years for him if we didn't manage to pull him here.

    He should've gone into the Titan pool, he's too OP. On top of that there's no key and box system like at the last event (banquet), so it's even more of an issue.

    I know it's more convenient for you to change what I've said what I don't like about the event to suit your narrative and disregard/minimise the issue I have with the decisions Kabam made for this event.
    Yes it is and similarly, other people will have to wait two years to pull FAM which you now have at sig 40 conveniently. If they added Nick to the Titan this same year then the people who actually spent money on this are left feeling like they just threw it away in the trash because Kabam made the champ available for free only a couple months after the event, and believe it or not some people actually spend over 500 on this sort of thing. Of course they're going to prioritize the people who fund the game throwing away thousands every year over the rest.
  • SkunkcabbageSkunkcabbage Member Posts: 570 ★★★

    Joker1976 said:

    It was a fun read, see you in two months for July 4th deals 😀

    You didn't read it then 😂 My account is going into an alliance by itself and you can check the account over time to see that you're wrong.

    I realised I've spent on the double track and the 7* phoenix plumes, which I'm going to take as I've paid for them, but that's the extent to which I'll be waiting.

    I'm waiting to get what I paid for - on principle. I'm leaving MCOC because 7* NF being in that crystal and the structure of it is wrong, I'm acting on principle and doing what I say.

    It's interesting that you think you know me, inferring I'll be doing the opposite of what I've clearly stated. #gaslight
    If I got a dime for every single time I've read one of these only for the person to come back during the next event, I'd be a millionaire lol
    That's them, that's not me. Hopefully you understand we're different people.
    Indeed, most people wouldn't throw a tantrum because they didn't pull a champ out of a crystal, that's literally what you signed up for when you downloaded the game.
    There is truth to this statement.
    I used units up to the 7* crystal milestone and got ibomb,…(not what i was looking for).
    But it am not but hurt about it , i was just bored and wanted to try my luck.
    Not too concerned about July 4th either,..i’ll see what i can scrape up before then lol.
    Not a big deal,..and definitely not worth quitting the game over.
    Exactly, and you pretty much got that one 7* for free almost, very low unit cost anyone could afford it. He should be glad he got a free 7* at such a low cost regardless of which one it was. I had my own issues with this event such as the paywall which forced me to blow out my money on it due to Dark Phoenix FOMO since she is a 4.5/5 defender unlike JJ and Weapon X who are very niche these days. RNG however is definitely not one of them.
    Okay pushed higher and got 2 more needing NF, here's outcome:






    The issue isn't "he just wanted 7* NF for free", the issue is - NF shouldn't be a trophy champ and we have to wait 1-2 years for him if we didn't manage to pull him here.

    He should've gone into the Titan pool, he's too OP. On top of that there's no key and box system like at the last event (banquet), so it's even more of an issue.

    I know it's more convenient for you to change what I've said what I don't like about the event to suit your narrative and disregard/minimise the issue I have with the decisions Kabam made for this event.
    Yes it is and similarly, other people will have to wait two years to pull FAM which you now have at sig 40 conveniently. If they added Nick to the Titan this same year then the people who actually spent money on this are left feeling like they just threw it away in the trash because Kabam made the champ available for free only a couple months after the event, and believe it or not some people actually spend over 500 on this sort of thing. Of course they're going to prioritize the people who fund the game throwing away thousands every year over the rest.
    So you're telling me how to think and reconstructing my grievance into one that you'd prefer it to be. Got it.

    I don't want FAM, he's pales in comparison to NF. I'm not saying put NF into the Titan now, I'm saying he should've been in the Titan instead of a trophy champ here.

    At this point I don't even know why I'm trying to correct your fabrication of what I've said, you're just intentionally being obtuse.
  • BulmktBulmkt Member Posts: 1,761 ★★★★★

    Zero money spent. Zero units spent. Walked away with a 7* Tigra from a Paragon HoF Crystal. Honestly can’t believe my luck.

    Zero $$$ spent and I re-invested the 1st 600 units into 2 more crystals. All up did the F2P thing (40 pts) and didn’t pull a single 7-star and pulled 1X 6-star. Rest was 5-star rubbish. But hey I got a heap of iso…and more importantly I still have my units ready for what may come at the 4th July ‘deals.’
  • ItsClobberinTimeItsClobberinTime Member Posts: 6,174 ★★★★★

    Joker1976 said:

    It was a fun read, see you in two months for July 4th deals 😀

    You didn't read it then 😂 My account is going into an alliance by itself and you can check the account over time to see that you're wrong.

    I realised I've spent on the double track and the 7* phoenix plumes, which I'm going to take as I've paid for them, but that's the extent to which I'll be waiting.

    I'm waiting to get what I paid for - on principle. I'm leaving MCOC because 7* NF being in that crystal and the structure of it is wrong, I'm acting on principle and doing what I say.

    It's interesting that you think you know me, inferring I'll be doing the opposite of what I've clearly stated. #gaslight
    If I got a dime for every single time I've read one of these only for the person to come back during the next event, I'd be a millionaire lol
    That's them, that's not me. Hopefully you understand we're different people.
    Indeed, most people wouldn't throw a tantrum because they didn't pull a champ out of a crystal, that's literally what you signed up for when you downloaded the game.
    There is truth to this statement.
    I used units up to the 7* crystal milestone and got ibomb,…(not what i was looking for).
    But it am not but hurt about it , i was just bored and wanted to try my luck.
    Not too concerned about July 4th either,..i’ll see what i can scrape up before then lol.
    Not a big deal,..and definitely not worth quitting the game over.
    Exactly, and you pretty much got that one 7* for free almost, very low unit cost anyone could afford it. He should be glad he got a free 7* at such a low cost regardless of which one it was. I had my own issues with this event such as the paywall which forced me to blow out my money on it due to Dark Phoenix FOMO since she is a 4.5/5 defender unlike JJ and Weapon X who are very niche these days. RNG however is definitely not one of them.
    Okay pushed higher and got 2 more needing NF, here's outcome:






    The issue isn't "he just wanted 7* NF for free", the issue is - NF shouldn't be a trophy champ and we have to wait 1-2 years for him if we didn't manage to pull him here.

    He should've gone into the Titan pool, he's too OP. On top of that there's no key and box system like at the last event (banquet), so it's even more of an issue.

    I know it's more convenient for you to change what I've said what I don't like about the event to suit your narrative and disregard/minimise the issue I have with the decisions Kabam made for this event.
    Yes it is and similarly, other people will have to wait two years to pull FAM which you now have at sig 40 conveniently. If they added Nick to the Titan this same year then the people who actually spent money on this are left feeling like they just threw it away in the trash because Kabam made the champ available for free only a couple months after the event, and believe it or not some people actually spend over 500 on this sort of thing. Of course they're going to prioritize the people who fund the game throwing away thousands every year over the rest.
    So you're telling me how to think and reconstructing my grievance into one that you'd prefer it to be. Got it.

    I don't want FAM, he's pales in comparison to NF. I'm not saying put NF into the Titan now, I'm saying he should've been in the Titan instead of a trophy champ here.

    At this point I don't even know why I'm trying to correct your fabrication of what I've said, you're just intentionally being obtuse.
    I'm not telling you how to think, I'm telling you why Kabam made the decisions they made.

    They need to make money to keep the game alive, this is a perfect way to do it.
    Besides, they're already adding Galan they can't just add a bunch of powerful champs to the Titan in one go cause that would absolutely ruin the game's economy if everyone has those champs it's not about making them trophies. Finally, how else would they make this event as interesting as Omega Days last year if they didn't use powerful champs? You think people would want to pay this much if the champs in it were Annihilus and some other mid champs? Maybe last year sure but at this point, the game has progressed way too much.

    I'm not fabricating anything, you just don't seem to understand how Kabam makes money for some weird reason.
  • SkunkcabbageSkunkcabbage Member Posts: 570 ★★★

    Joker1976 said:

    It was a fun read, see you in two months for July 4th deals 😀

    You didn't read it then 😂 My account is going into an alliance by itself and you can check the account over time to see that you're wrong.

    I realised I've spent on the double track and the 7* phoenix plumes, which I'm going to take as I've paid for them, but that's the extent to which I'll be waiting.

    I'm waiting to get what I paid for - on principle. I'm leaving MCOC because 7* NF being in that crystal and the structure of it is wrong, I'm acting on principle and doing what I say.

    It's interesting that you think you know me, inferring I'll be doing the opposite of what I've clearly stated. #gaslight
    If I got a dime for every single time I've read one of these only for the person to come back during the next event, I'd be a millionaire lol
    That's them, that's not me. Hopefully you understand we're different people.
    Indeed, most people wouldn't throw a tantrum because they didn't pull a champ out of a crystal, that's literally what you signed up for when you downloaded the game.
    There is truth to this statement.
    I used units up to the 7* crystal milestone and got ibomb,…(not what i was looking for).
    But it am not but hurt about it , i was just bored and wanted to try my luck.
    Not too concerned about July 4th either,..i’ll see what i can scrape up before then lol.
    Not a big deal,..and definitely not worth quitting the game over.
    Exactly, and you pretty much got that one 7* for free almost, very low unit cost anyone could afford it. He should be glad he got a free 7* at such a low cost regardless of which one it was. I had my own issues with this event such as the paywall which forced me to blow out my money on it due to Dark Phoenix FOMO since she is a 4.5/5 defender unlike JJ and Weapon X who are very niche these days. RNG however is definitely not one of them.
    Okay pushed higher and got 2 more needing NF, here's outcome:






    The issue isn't "he just wanted 7* NF for free", the issue is - NF shouldn't be a trophy champ and we have to wait 1-2 years for him if we didn't manage to pull him here.

    He should've gone into the Titan pool, he's too OP. On top of that there's no key and box system like at the last event (banquet), so it's even more of an issue.

    I know it's more convenient for you to change what I've said what I don't like about the event to suit your narrative and disregard/minimise the issue I have with the decisions Kabam made for this event.
    Yes it is and similarly, other people will have to wait two years to pull FAM which you now have at sig 40 conveniently. If they added Nick to the Titan this same year then the people who actually spent money on this are left feeling like they just threw it away in the trash because Kabam made the champ available for free only a couple months after the event, and believe it or not some people actually spend over 500 on this sort of thing. Of course they're going to prioritize the people who fund the game throwing away thousands every year over the rest.
    So you're telling me how to think and reconstructing my grievance into one that you'd prefer it to be. Got it.

    I don't want FAM, he's pales in comparison to NF. I'm not saying put NF into the Titan now, I'm saying he should've been in the Titan instead of a trophy champ here.

    At this point I don't even know why I'm trying to correct your fabrication of what I've said, you're just intentionally being obtuse.
    I'm not telling you how to think, I'm telling you why Kabam made the decisions they made.

    They need to make money to keep the game alive, this is a perfect way to do it.
    Besides, they're already adding Galan they can't just add a bunch of powerful champs to the Titan in one go cause that would absolutely ruin the game's economy if everyone has those champs it's not about making them trophies. Finally, how else would they make this event as interesting as Omega Days last year if they didn't use powerful champs? You think people would want to pay this much if the champs in it were Annihilus and some other mid champs? Maybe last year sure but at this point, the game has progressed way too much.

    I'm not fabricating anything, you just don't seem to understand how Kabam makes money for some weird reason.
    I understand how Kabam makes money, I've never said I don't understand it. I also don't like that they chose to put someone like NF into this trophy champ pool. Those two things can both be true and coexist. There is no singular truth that we all have to subscribe to and that's okay.

    If you want me to prove I understand some business strategy I can do that, if that's what it will take for my opinion about disliking NF being in the pool and for it to be acknowledged as my own viewpoint..

    - Kabam made the webstore to reduce costs and increase profits for MCOC, by bypassing Google Play Store and Apple App Store charges. This likely improved cashflow at the same time with the revenue being generated immediately rather than waiting some days for Google/Apple to pay Kabam. The additional benefits in the webstore are are an enticement to move players over to the webstore and there is no marginal cost as it's a digital item, although it will create some inflationary pressure in the game, which is within tolerance. The points track for special events leans on sunk cost theory where people think they've spent so much already and they cannot just leave those points on the table, even though objectively pursuing higher milestones doesn't maximise their utility and results in ultimately a welfare loss for that economic agent. The free daily login is there to foster a behavioural habit of visiting the store on a regular basis so that the likelihood of remembering it exists, and completing a transaction outside of the app is higher. Again the free daily crystal is mildly inflationary, however with time the value of the daily crystal is eroded, which mitigates this issue (until the crystal is buffed)
    - The MCOC PC version is being released because the mobile version of the game may be reaching saturation on its product life cycle, despite the implementation of a number of previous extension strategies. Being on PC means the game can now aim to take market share on the PC gaming market, resulting in a growth in revenue for the game, and ultimately profits. Profitability is an important consideration, as are other factors such as market share and market growth. The stock price is directly linked to how much is paid out in dividends each year, if it's too low then the stock price will fall and make the likelihood of a hostile takeover increase. The benefit of entering the PC market is that MCOC already exists and needs comparatively less work to port it to that platform, and I'd assume the Marvel IP is a fixed cost, which means it can be spread across a larger number of players to reduce average fixed costs.
  • ItsClobberinTimeItsClobberinTime Member Posts: 6,174 ★★★★★
    edited May 11

    Joker1976 said:

    It was a fun read, see you in two months for July 4th deals 😀

    You didn't read it then 😂 My account is going into an alliance by itself and you can check the account over time to see that you're wrong.

    I realised I've spent on the double track and the 7* phoenix plumes, which I'm going to take as I've paid for them, but that's the extent to which I'll be waiting.

    I'm waiting to get what I paid for - on principle. I'm leaving MCOC because 7* NF being in that crystal and the structure of it is wrong, I'm acting on principle and doing what I say.

    It's interesting that you think you know me, inferring I'll be doing the opposite of what I've clearly stated. #gaslight
    If I got a dime for every single time I've read one of these only for the person to come back during the next event, I'd be a millionaire lol
    That's them, that's not me. Hopefully you understand we're different people.
    Indeed, most people wouldn't throw a tantrum because they didn't pull a champ out of a crystal, that's literally what you signed up for when you downloaded the game.
    There is truth to this statement.
    I used units up to the 7* crystal milestone and got ibomb,…(not what i was looking for).
    But it am not but hurt about it , i was just bored and wanted to try my luck.
    Not too concerned about July 4th either,..i’ll see what i can scrape up before then lol.
    Not a big deal,..and definitely not worth quitting the game over.
    Exactly, and you pretty much got that one 7* for free almost, very low unit cost anyone could afford it. He should be glad he got a free 7* at such a low cost regardless of which one it was. I had my own issues with this event such as the paywall which forced me to blow out my money on it due to Dark Phoenix FOMO since she is a 4.5/5 defender unlike JJ and Weapon X who are very niche these days. RNG however is definitely not one of them.
    Okay pushed higher and got 2 more needing NF, here's outcome:






    The issue isn't "he just wanted 7* NF for free", the issue is - NF shouldn't be a trophy champ and we have to wait 1-2 years for him if we didn't manage to pull him here.

    He should've gone into the Titan pool, he's too OP. On top of that there's no key and box system like at the last event (banquet), so it's even more of an issue.

    I know it's more convenient for you to change what I've said what I don't like about the event to suit your narrative and disregard/minimise the issue I have with the decisions Kabam made for this event.
    Yes it is and similarly, other people will have to wait two years to pull FAM which you now have at sig 40 conveniently. If they added Nick to the Titan this same year then the people who actually spent money on this are left feeling like they just threw it away in the trash because Kabam made the champ available for free only a couple months after the event, and believe it or not some people actually spend over 500 on this sort of thing. Of course they're going to prioritize the people who fund the game throwing away thousands every year over the rest.
    So you're telling me how to think and reconstructing my grievance into one that you'd prefer it to be. Got it.

    I don't want FAM, he's pales in comparison to NF. I'm not saying put NF into the Titan now, I'm saying he should've been in the Titan instead of a trophy champ here.

    At this point I don't even know why I'm trying to correct your fabrication of what I've said, you're just intentionally being obtuse.
    I'm not telling you how to think, I'm telling you why Kabam made the decisions they made.

    They need to make money to keep the game alive, this is a perfect way to do it.
    Besides, they're already adding Galan they can't just add a bunch of powerful champs to the Titan in one go cause that would absolutely ruin the game's economy if everyone has those champs it's not about making them trophies. Finally, how else would they make this event as interesting as Omega Days last year if they didn't use powerful champs? You think people would want to pay this much if the champs in it were Annihilus and some other mid champs? Maybe last year sure but at this point, the game has progressed way too much.

    I'm not fabricating anything, you just don't seem to understand how Kabam makes money for some weird reason.
    I understand how Kabam makes money, I've never said I don't understand it. I also don't like that they chose to put someone like NF into this trophy champ pool. Those two things can both be true and coexist. There is no singular truth that we all have to subscribe to and that's okay.

    If you want me to prove I understand some business strategy I can do that, if that's what it will take for my opinion about disliking NF being in the pool and for it to be acknowledged as my own viewpoint..

    - Kabam made the webstore to reduce costs and increase profits for MCOC, by bypassing Google Play Store and Apple App Store charges. This likely improved cashflow at the same time with the revenue being generated immediately rather than waiting some days for Google/Apple to pay Kabam. The additional benefits in the webstore are are an enticement to move players over to the webstore and there is no marginal cost as it's a digital item, although it will create some inflationary pressure in the game, which is within tolerance. The points track for special events leans on sunk cost theory where people think they've spent so much already and they cannot just leave those points on the table, even though objectively pursuing higher milestones doesn't maximise their utility and results in ultimately a welfare loss for that economic agent. The free daily login is there to foster a behavioural habit of visiting the store on a regular basis so that the likelihood of remembering it exists, and completing a transaction outside of the app is higher. Again the free daily crystal is mildly inflationary, however with time the value of the daily crystal is eroded, which mitigates this issue (until the crystal is buffed)
    - The MCOC PC version is being released because the mobile version of the game may be reaching saturation on its product life cycle, despite the implementation of a number of previous extension strategies. Being on PC means the game can now aim to take market share on the PC gaming market, resulting in a growth in revenue for the game, and ultimately profits. Profitability is an important consideration, as are other factors such as market share and market growth. The stock price is directly linked to how much is paid out in dividends each year, if it's too low then the stock price will fall and make the likelihood of a hostile takeover increase. The benefit of entering the PC market is that MCOC already exists and needs comparatively less work to port it to that platform, and I'd assume the Marvel IP is a fixed cost, which means it can be spread across a larger number of players to reduce average fixed costs.
    You can dislike it, but it was a smart decision regardless and they probably made a lot of money out of it. If you're really that worried about missing out then again, spend money and get the selector it's not like the option isn't already there you can even awaken him if you really want to have him. Otherwise, save your units like other people did and wait until the next opportunity I'm sure next year we will get crazy champs as well and eventually he will go to the basic pool. Threatening with leaving the game and throwing a fit isn't really going to do anything and they are going to keep milking events this way whether you like it or not because it's gacha game, this is what you signed up for when you installed it.
  • SkunkcabbageSkunkcabbage Member Posts: 570 ★★★

    Joker1976 said:

    It was a fun read, see you in two months for July 4th deals 😀

    You didn't read it then 😂 My account is going into an alliance by itself and you can check the account over time to see that you're wrong.

    I realised I've spent on the double track and the 7* phoenix plumes, which I'm going to take as I've paid for them, but that's the extent to which I'll be waiting.

    I'm waiting to get what I paid for - on principle. I'm leaving MCOC because 7* NF being in that crystal and the structure of it is wrong, I'm acting on principle and doing what I say.

    It's interesting that you think you know me, inferring I'll be doing the opposite of what I've clearly stated. #gaslight
    If I got a dime for every single time I've read one of these only for the person to come back during the next event, I'd be a millionaire lol
    That's them, that's not me. Hopefully you understand we're different people.
    Indeed, most people wouldn't throw a tantrum because they didn't pull a champ out of a crystal, that's literally what you signed up for when you downloaded the game.
    There is truth to this statement.
    I used units up to the 7* crystal milestone and got ibomb,…(not what i was looking for).
    But it am not but hurt about it , i was just bored and wanted to try my luck.
    Not too concerned about July 4th either,..i’ll see what i can scrape up before then lol.
    Not a big deal,..and definitely not worth quitting the game over.
    Exactly, and you pretty much got that one 7* for free almost, very low unit cost anyone could afford it. He should be glad he got a free 7* at such a low cost regardless of which one it was. I had my own issues with this event such as the paywall which forced me to blow out my money on it due to Dark Phoenix FOMO since she is a 4.5/5 defender unlike JJ and Weapon X who are very niche these days. RNG however is definitely not one of them.
    Okay pushed higher and got 2 more needing NF, here's outcome:






    The issue isn't "he just wanted 7* NF for free", the issue is - NF shouldn't be a trophy champ and we have to wait 1-2 years for him if we didn't manage to pull him here.

    He should've gone into the Titan pool, he's too OP. On top of that there's no key and box system like at the last event (banquet), so it's even more of an issue.

    I know it's more convenient for you to change what I've said what I don't like about the event to suit your narrative and disregard/minimise the issue I have with the decisions Kabam made for this event.
    Yes it is and similarly, other people will have to wait two years to pull FAM which you now have at sig 40 conveniently. If they added Nick to the Titan this same year then the people who actually spent money on this are left feeling like they just threw it away in the trash because Kabam made the champ available for free only a couple months after the event, and believe it or not some people actually spend over 500 on this sort of thing. Of course they're going to prioritize the people who fund the game throwing away thousands every year over the rest.
    So you're telling me how to think and reconstructing my grievance into one that you'd prefer it to be. Got it.

    I don't want FAM, he's pales in comparison to NF. I'm not saying put NF into the Titan now, I'm saying he should've been in the Titan instead of a trophy champ here.

    At this point I don't even know why I'm trying to correct your fabrication of what I've said, you're just intentionally being obtuse.
    I'm not telling you how to think, I'm telling you why Kabam made the decisions they made.

    They need to make money to keep the game alive, this is a perfect way to do it.
    Besides, they're already adding Galan they can't just add a bunch of powerful champs to the Titan in one go cause that would absolutely ruin the game's economy if everyone has those champs it's not about making them trophies. Finally, how else would they make this event as interesting as Omega Days last year if they didn't use powerful champs? You think people would want to pay this much if the champs in it were Annihilus and some other mid champs? Maybe last year sure but at this point, the game has progressed way too much.

    I'm not fabricating anything, you just don't seem to understand how Kabam makes money for some weird reason.
    I understand how Kabam makes money, I've never said I don't understand it. I also don't like that they chose to put someone like NF into this trophy champ pool. Those two things can both be true and coexist. There is no singular truth that we all have to subscribe to and that's okay.

    If you want me to prove I understand some business strategy I can do that, if that's what it will take for my opinion about disliking NF being in the pool and for it to be acknowledged as my own viewpoint..

    - Kabam made the webstore to reduce costs and increase profits for MCOC, by bypassing Google Play Store and Apple App Store charges. This likely improved cashflow at the same time with the revenue being generated immediately rather than waiting some days for Google/Apple to pay Kabam. The additional benefits in the webstore are are an enticement to move players over to the webstore and there is no marginal cost as it's a digital item, although it will create some inflationary pressure in the game, which is within tolerance. The points track for special events leans on sunk cost theory where people think they've spent so much already and they cannot just leave those points on the table, even though objectively pursuing higher milestones doesn't maximise their utility and results in ultimately a welfare loss for that economic agent. The free daily login is there to foster a behavioural habit of visiting the store on a regular basis so that the likelihood of remembering it exists, and completing a transaction outside of the app is higher. Again the free daily crystal is mildly inflationary, however with time the value of the daily crystal is eroded, which mitigates this issue (until the crystal is buffed)
    - The MCOC PC version is being released because the mobile version of the game may be reaching saturation on its product life cycle, despite the implementation of a number of previous extension strategies. Being on PC means the game can now aim to take market share on the PC gaming market, resulting in a growth in revenue for the game, and ultimately profits. Profitability is an important consideration, as are other factors such as market share and market growth. The stock price is directly linked to how much is paid out in dividends each year, if it's too low then the stock price will fall and make the likelihood of a hostile takeover increase. The benefit of entering the PC market is that MCOC already exists and needs comparatively less work to port it to that platform, and I'd assume the Marvel IP is a fixed cost, which means it can be spread across a larger number of players to reduce average fixed costs.
    You can dislike it, but it was a smart decision regardless and they probably made a lot of money out of it. If you're really that worried about missing out then again, spend money and get the selector it's not like the option isn't already there you can even awaken him if you really want to have him. Otherwise, save your units like other people did and wait until the next opportunity I'm sure next year we will get crazy champs as well and eventually he will go to the basic pool. Threatening with leaving the game and throwing a fit isn't really going to do anything and they are going to keep milking events this way whether you like it or not because it's gacha game, this is what you signed up for when you installed it.
    Super passive aggressive tone. I'm sorry you have such contempt for people that have a different perspective. As I said before there is no one singular truth - it MAY be a smart decision, it may NOT be a smart decision, nobody can definitively say. I'm not going to do what you tell me to, I can be worried about not getting 7* NF due to how the event was structured AND refuse to do what you tell me to with buying all the milestones. I can discontinue playing the game, it's my choice and I will do what I feel is appropriate.

    I didn't sign up for 7* NF being a trophy champ when I installed the game. I installed it wanting something FUN to do in my spare time. You continue to tell me what I do and do not think, what I should do, what I shouldn't do.

    You seem to have a real hard time allowing people to have independence and want to control the situation and narrative so that it fits nicely in a box. That's not reality my friend.
  • Zacharias10719Zacharias10719 Member Posts: 91 ★★
    He isn't a trophy champ, he's an early access champion just like when players pull the new release champ from the early access bundles. This event was basically a giant version of those but with a guarantee at the end of the event if you spent enough units. You will get your chance to get him in a year when he enters the basic.
  • SkunkcabbageSkunkcabbage Member Posts: 570 ★★★
    edited May 11

    He isn't a trophy champ, he's an early access champion just like when players pull the new release champ from the early access bundles. This event was basically a giant version of those but with a guarantee at the end of the event if you spent enough units. You will get your chance to get him in a year when he enters the basic.

    Early access is days/weeks to wait for them to join Titan.. It's SHORT TERM
    It's not the same as waiting for 1-2 years, when in 2 years we'll probably have 8* champs.. It's LONG TERM

    It's like saying doing a 1 day training course and getting certified is the same as studying a degree and getting that certificate years later. The difference in time between the two is significant - it makes a material difference..
  • ImranImran Member Posts: 637 ★★★
    I also spent like 6000 units for a guaranteed 7★ ibom. Excitement gone actually to spend more units.
  • ItsClobberinTimeItsClobberinTime Member Posts: 6,174 ★★★★★
    edited May 11

    Joker1976 said:

    It was a fun read, see you in two months for July 4th deals 😀

    You didn't read it then 😂 My account is going into an alliance by itself and you can check the account over time to see that you're wrong.

    I realised I've spent on the double track and the 7* phoenix plumes, which I'm going to take as I've paid for them, but that's the extent to which I'll be waiting.

    I'm waiting to get what I paid for - on principle. I'm leaving MCOC because 7* NF being in that crystal and the structure of it is wrong, I'm acting on principle and doing what I say.

    It's interesting that you think you know me, inferring I'll be doing the opposite of what I've clearly stated. #gaslight
    If I got a dime for every single time I've read one of these only for the person to come back during the next event, I'd be a millionaire lol
    That's them, that's not me. Hopefully you understand we're different people.
    Indeed, most people wouldn't throw a tantrum because they didn't pull a champ out of a crystal, that's literally what you signed up for when you downloaded the game.
    There is truth to this statement.
    I used units up to the 7* crystal milestone and got ibomb,…(not what i was looking for).
    But it am not but hurt about it , i was just bored and wanted to try my luck.
    Not too concerned about July 4th either,..i’ll see what i can scrape up before then lol.
    Not a big deal,..and definitely not worth quitting the game over.
    Exactly, and you pretty much got that one 7* for free almost, very low unit cost anyone could afford it. He should be glad he got a free 7* at such a low cost regardless of which one it was. I had my own issues with this event such as the paywall which forced me to blow out my money on it due to Dark Phoenix FOMO since she is a 4.5/5 defender unlike JJ and Weapon X who are very niche these days. RNG however is definitely not one of them.
    Okay pushed higher and got 2 more needing NF, here's outcome:






    The issue isn't "he just wanted 7* NF for free", the issue is - NF shouldn't be a trophy champ and we have to wait 1-2 years for him if we didn't manage to pull him here.

    He should've gone into the Titan pool, he's too OP. On top of that there's no key and box system like at the last event (banquet), so it's even more of an issue.

    I know it's more convenient for you to change what I've said what I don't like about the event to suit your narrative and disregard/minimise the issue I have with the decisions Kabam made for this event.
    Yes it is and similarly, other people will have to wait two years to pull FAM which you now have at sig 40 conveniently. If they added Nick to the Titan this same year then the people who actually spent money on this are left feeling like they just threw it away in the trash because Kabam made the champ available for free only a couple months after the event, and believe it or not some people actually spend over 500 on this sort of thing. Of course they're going to prioritize the people who fund the game throwing away thousands every year over the rest.
    So you're telling me how to think and reconstructing my grievance into one that you'd prefer it to be. Got it.

    I don't want FAM, he's pales in comparison to NF. I'm not saying put NF into the Titan now, I'm saying he should've been in the Titan instead of a trophy champ here.

    At this point I don't even know why I'm trying to correct your fabrication of what I've said, you're just intentionally being obtuse.
    I'm not telling you how to think, I'm telling you why Kabam made the decisions they made.

    They need to make money to keep the game alive, this is a perfect way to do it.
    Besides, they're already adding Galan they can't just add a bunch of powerful champs to the Titan in one go cause that would absolutely ruin the game's economy if everyone has those champs it's not about making them trophies. Finally, how else would they make this event as interesting as Omega Days last year if they didn't use powerful champs? You think people would want to pay this much if the champs in it were Annihilus and some other mid champs? Maybe last year sure but at this point, the game has progressed way too much.

    I'm not fabricating anything, you just don't seem to understand how Kabam makes money for some weird reason.
    I understand how Kabam makes money, I've never said I don't understand it. I also don't like that they chose to put someone like NF into this trophy champ pool. Those two things can both be true and coexist. There is no singular truth that we all have to subscribe to and that's okay.

    If you want me to prove I understand some business strategy I can do that, if that's what it will take for my opinion about disliking NF being in the pool and for it to be acknowledged as my own viewpoint..

    - Kabam made the webstore to reduce costs and increase profits for MCOC, by bypassing Google Play Store and Apple App Store charges. This likely improved cashflow at the same time with the revenue being generated immediately rather than waiting some days for Google/Apple to pay Kabam. The additional benefits in the webstore are are an enticement to move players over to the webstore and there is no marginal cost as it's a digital item, although it will create some inflationary pressure in the game, which is within tolerance. The points track for special events leans on sunk cost theory where people think they've spent so much already and they cannot just leave those points on the table, even though objectively pursuing higher milestones doesn't maximise their utility and results in ultimately a welfare loss for that economic agent. The free daily login is there to foster a behavioural habit of visiting the store on a regular basis so that the likelihood of remembering it exists, and completing a transaction outside of the app is higher. Again the free daily crystal is mildly inflationary, however with time the value of the daily crystal is eroded, which mitigates this issue (until the crystal is buffed)
    - The MCOC PC version is being released because the mobile version of the game may be reaching saturation on its product life cycle, despite the implementation of a number of previous extension strategies. Being on PC means the game can now aim to take market share on the PC gaming market, resulting in a growth in revenue for the game, and ultimately profits. Profitability is an important consideration, as are other factors such as market share and market growth. The stock price is directly linked to how much is paid out in dividends each year, if it's too low then the stock price will fall and make the likelihood of a hostile takeover increase. The benefit of entering the PC market is that MCOC already exists and needs comparatively less work to port it to that platform, and I'd assume the Marvel IP is a fixed cost, which means it can be spread across a larger number of players to reduce average fixed costs.
    You can dislike it, but it was a smart decision regardless and they probably made a lot of money out of it. If you're really that worried about missing out then again, spend money and get the selector it's not like the option isn't already there you can even awaken him if you really want to have him. Otherwise, save your units like other people did and wait until the next opportunity I'm sure next year we will get crazy champs as well and eventually he will go to the basic pool. Threatening with leaving the game and throwing a fit isn't really going to do anything and they are going to keep milking events this way whether you like it or not because it's gacha game, this is what you signed up for when you installed it.
    Super passive aggressive tone. I'm sorry you have such contempt for people that have a different perspective. As I said before there is no one singular truth - it MAY be a smart decision, it may NOT be a smart decision, nobody can definitively say. I'm not going to do what you tell me to, I can be worried about not getting 7* NF due to how the event was structured AND refuse to do what you tell me to with buying all the milestones. I can discontinue playing the game, it's my choice and I will do what I feel is appropriate.

    I didn't sign up for 7* NF being a trophy champ when I installed the game. I installed it wanting something FUN to do in my spare time. You continue to tell me what I do and do not think, what I should do, what I shouldn't do.

    You seem to have a real hard time allowing people to have independence and want to control the situation and narrative so that it fits nicely in a box. That's not reality my friend.
    I can guarantee you it was a smart decision from a business perspective and they made a lot of money out of it, you may not like it but it is what it is. I didn't like the fact that Dark Phoenix was paywalled but guess what? I ended up spending because of fomo, it was a smart decision even if I didn't like it, I spent money and they made money.

    You can leave the game and not do what I suggested but it only makes this whole thread look even more satirical. You're complaining that you couldn't pull Nick because of RNG but when given the option to spend to get him you don't want to do it either lol Kabam is giving you the option to get the champ that you want with that selector and you even get an awakening gem too, problem is you want it for free or with minimal spending. If that's the route you're taking then unfortunately it's a matter of luck, always has been and always will be, it's a gacha game.

    Nick Fury is not a trophy champ, this is basically just early access. Dark Phoenix is a trophy champ, Nick is not and eventually he will be available everywhere.

    As for the independence part, you can do whatever you want with your account lol I'm simply pointing out how ridiculous it is to be this mad complaining that you're missing out while at the same time refusing to spend when spending can in fact guarantee you one awakened Nick Fury.
  • ROMEOMONTYROMEOMONTY Member Posts: 19
    This post's first response should have been the "first time" meme. For every post about bad rng there will be a post underneath it saying "I got everything i wanted" or " I opened 4 crystals and got 3 7*".
  • Mixtapevol02Mixtapevol02 Member Posts: 157 ★★

    He isn't a trophy champ, he's an early access champion just like when players pull the new release champ from the early access bundles. This event was basically a giant version of those but with a guarantee at the end of the event if you spent enough units. You will get your chance to get him in a year when he enters the basic.

    No OP won’t. Remember he is quitting and hopefully uninstalling in a couple of days. So just let him be.
  • SkunkcabbageSkunkcabbage Member Posts: 570 ★★★

    Joker1976 said:

    It was a fun read, see you in two months for July 4th deals 😀

    You didn't read it then 😂 My account is going into an alliance by itself and you can check the account over time to see that you're wrong.

    I realised I've spent on the double track and the 7* phoenix plumes, which I'm going to take as I've paid for them, but that's the extent to which I'll be waiting.

    I'm waiting to get what I paid for - on principle. I'm leaving MCOC because 7* NF being in that crystal and the structure of it is wrong, I'm acting on principle and doing what I say.

    It's interesting that you think you know me, inferring I'll be doing the opposite of what I've clearly stated. #gaslight
    If I got a dime for every single time I've read one of these only for the person to come back during the next event, I'd be a millionaire lol
    That's them, that's not me. Hopefully you understand we're different people.
    Indeed, most people wouldn't throw a tantrum because they didn't pull a champ out of a crystal, that's literally what you signed up for when you downloaded the game.
    There is truth to this statement.
    I used units up to the 7* crystal milestone and got ibomb,…(not what i was looking for).
    But it am not but hurt about it , i was just bored and wanted to try my luck.
    Not too concerned about July 4th either,..i’ll see what i can scrape up before then lol.
    Not a big deal,..and definitely not worth quitting the game over.
    Exactly, and you pretty much got that one 7* for free almost, very low unit cost anyone could afford it. He should be glad he got a free 7* at such a low cost regardless of which one it was. I had my own issues with this event such as the paywall which forced me to blow out my money on it due to Dark Phoenix FOMO since she is a 4.5/5 defender unlike JJ and Weapon X who are very niche these days. RNG however is definitely not one of them.
    Okay pushed higher and got 2 more needing NF, here's outcome:






    The issue isn't "he just wanted 7* NF for free", the issue is - NF shouldn't be a trophy champ and we have to wait 1-2 years for him if we didn't manage to pull him here.

    He should've gone into the Titan pool, he's too OP. On top of that there's no key and box system like at the last event (banquet), so it's even more of an issue.

    I know it's more convenient for you to change what I've said what I don't like about the event to suit your narrative and disregard/minimise the issue I have with the decisions Kabam made for this event.
    Yes it is and similarly, other people will have to wait two years to pull FAM which you now have at sig 40 conveniently. If they added Nick to the Titan this same year then the people who actually spent money on this are left feeling like they just threw it away in the trash because Kabam made the champ available for free only a couple months after the event, and believe it or not some people actually spend over 500 on this sort of thing. Of course they're going to prioritize the people who fund the game throwing away thousands every year over the rest.
    So you're telling me how to think and reconstructing my grievance into one that you'd prefer it to be. Got it.

    I don't want FAM, he's pales in comparison to NF. I'm not saying put NF into the Titan now, I'm saying he should've been in the Titan instead of a trophy champ here.

    At this point I don't even know why I'm trying to correct your fabrication of what I've said, you're just intentionally being obtuse.
    I'm not telling you how to think, I'm telling you why Kabam made the decisions they made.

    They need to make money to keep the game alive, this is a perfect way to do it.
    Besides, they're already adding Galan they can't just add a bunch of powerful champs to the Titan in one go cause that would absolutely ruin the game's economy if everyone has those champs it's not about making them trophies. Finally, how else would they make this event as interesting as Omega Days last year if they didn't use powerful champs? You think people would want to pay this much if the champs in it were Annihilus and some other mid champs? Maybe last year sure but at this point, the game has progressed way too much.

    I'm not fabricating anything, you just don't seem to understand how Kabam makes money for some weird reason.
    I understand how Kabam makes money, I've never said I don't understand it. I also don't like that they chose to put someone like NF into this trophy champ pool. Those two things can both be true and coexist. There is no singular truth that we all have to subscribe to and that's okay.

    If you want me to prove I understand some business strategy I can do that, if that's what it will take for my opinion about disliking NF being in the pool and for it to be acknowledged as my own viewpoint..

    - Kabam made the webstore to reduce costs and increase profits for MCOC, by bypassing Google Play Store and Apple App Store charges. This likely improved cashflow at the same time with the revenue being generated immediately rather than waiting some days for Google/Apple to pay Kabam. The additional benefits in the webstore are are an enticement to move players over to the webstore and there is no marginal cost as it's a digital item, although it will create some inflationary pressure in the game, which is within tolerance. The points track for special events leans on sunk cost theory where people think they've spent so much already and they cannot just leave those points on the table, even though objectively pursuing higher milestones doesn't maximise their utility and results in ultimately a welfare loss for that economic agent. The free daily login is there to foster a behavioural habit of visiting the store on a regular basis so that the likelihood of remembering it exists, and completing a transaction outside of the app is higher. Again the free daily crystal is mildly inflationary, however with time the value of the daily crystal is eroded, which mitigates this issue (until the crystal is buffed)
    - The MCOC PC version is being released because the mobile version of the game may be reaching saturation on its product life cycle, despite the implementation of a number of previous extension strategies. Being on PC means the game can now aim to take market share on the PC gaming market, resulting in a growth in revenue for the game, and ultimately profits. Profitability is an important consideration, as are other factors such as market share and market growth. The stock price is directly linked to how much is paid out in dividends each year, if it's too low then the stock price will fall and make the likelihood of a hostile takeover increase. The benefit of entering the PC market is that MCOC already exists and needs comparatively less work to port it to that platform, and I'd assume the Marvel IP is a fixed cost, which means it can be spread across a larger number of players to reduce average fixed costs.
    You can dislike it, but it was a smart decision regardless and they probably made a lot of money out of it. If you're really that worried about missing out then again, spend money and get the selector it's not like the option isn't already there you can even awaken him if you really want to have him. Otherwise, save your units like other people did and wait until the next opportunity I'm sure next year we will get crazy champs as well and eventually he will go to the basic pool. Threatening with leaving the game and throwing a fit isn't really going to do anything and they are going to keep milking events this way whether you like it or not because it's gacha game, this is what you signed up for when you installed it.
    Super passive aggressive tone. I'm sorry you have such contempt for people that have a different perspective. As I said before there is no one singular truth - it MAY be a smart decision, it may NOT be a smart decision, nobody can definitively say. I'm not going to do what you tell me to, I can be worried about not getting 7* NF due to how the event was structured AND refuse to do what you tell me to with buying all the milestones. I can discontinue playing the game, it's my choice and I will do what I feel is appropriate.

    I didn't sign up for 7* NF being a trophy champ when I installed the game. I installed it wanting something FUN to do in my spare time. You continue to tell me what I do and do not think, what I should do, what I shouldn't do.

    You seem to have a real hard time allowing people to have independence and want to control the situation and narrative so that it fits nicely in a box. That's not reality my friend.
    I can guarantee you it was a smart decision from a business perspective and they made a lot of money out of it, you may not like it but it is what it is. I didn't like the fact that Dark Phoenix was paywalled but guess what? I ended up spending because of fomo, it was a smart decision even if I didn't like it, I spent money and they made money.

    You can leave the game and not do what I suggested but it only makes this whole thread look even more satirical. You're complaining that you couldn't pull Nick because of RNG but when given the option to spend to get him you don't want to do it either lol Kabam is giving you the option to get the champ that you want with that selector and you even get an awakening gem too, problem is you want it for free or with minimal spending. If that's the route you're taking then unfortunately it's a matter of luck, always has been and always will be, it's a gacha game.

    Nick Fury is not a trophy champ, this is basically just early access. Dark Phoenix is a trophy champ, Nick is not and eventually he will be available everywhere.

    As for the independence part, you can do whatever you want with your account lol I'm simply pointing out how ridiculous it is to be this mad complaining that you're missing out while at the same time refusing to spend when spending can in fact guarantee you one awakened Nick Fury.
    You can't guarantee it was a smart decision. Look at the July 4th where they sold off loads of R5 6*s. According to you it was a smart decision with your binary yes/no mindset. But actually they damaged the game and it was a bad decision. Are you starting to understand a little better now? It's not just about $$$ there's other factors at play (which you're consistently blind to apparently)

    Yep - I'm the problem here because I don't want to spend an additional $300 to guarantee NF. I'm so stupid that I'm causing this problem by not continuing to spend for him. Literally I should be mad at myself right? This post should be retitled "I'm going to quit MCOC because I won't fix a problem I've created" Nothing to do with Kabam, this is all my fault, I should've known better. I should've taken time off work to grind arena for days on end, I should've prepared better - it's all my fault.

    You're totally right - it's just early access, no problem at all here. So what if it's a couple of years, does it really matter? I'll eventually be able to get him in 2027 and that's really not that far away when you think about it compared to the history of the earth. There's no problem here, it was just my perspective. I'm really grateful you've helped me to think correctly about this issue Mr. Clobberin' Time, I was struggling before feeling bad about the event and the decision to include NF, but now I'm fine with it. Actually you know what - this event is amazing, you get so much cool stuff, they've outdone themselves this time 💪

    Thanks for your permission to have independence, but I don't think I'll need it. I was being ridiculous before. Imagine being unhappy and I could fix it with $300 but I CHOSE not to? I was so stupid, haha. Thanks again friend.

    /gaslight
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