Your most underrated champion picks

TP33TP33 Member Posts: 1,772 ★★★★★
There are a lot of champions in the game who are sorely underrated, champs which people kinda know are good, but rarely rank up. Champions which occupy the back of someone’s mind but are easily forgotten. The champions which aren’t straight up trash but also don’t see a lot of use in competitive game modes. For me there’s a clear 3, all of whom I love (for different reasons), which I wholeheartedly believe would be much more commonly used if people could understand what they could do.

My first (and probably most appreciated) champion has to be Colossus. Bro is a straight up Nuke with great immunities, multiple playstyles and great survivability. He’s a decent defender (in a pinch) with just how tanky he can be. Back in the day to show that he was good i used to take Necro fights with him at R2 and get solos (Odin and Sauron mainly). He’s such a capable champion and the fact that he’s not considered up there in the top 5 for the mystic class is just a tragedy. The reason I say he gets some appreciation is the fact that I’ve seen him at R4 in a number of YouTube war videos. It seems like those in Masters/the top level of AW know how good he is and for that reason he gets the number 3 spot on this list.

At number 2 has to be Terrax. Sure he’s lost defensive value with more and more mystic champions entering the contest (really he lost it all when Abs Man came in) but he can still chip down non mystic opponents in BGs if you need someone to just hold the line. However his status as a “defender” when he was introduced has left him overlooked now as an absolutely crazy offensive threat. His heavy attack can absolutely bang, dealing 100k+ with the right ramp. And the best part about him is how sustainable his damage loop is. Using the 4th light, heavies and good power management you can be spamming specials and heavies, keeping the rock field up for as long as possible whilst maintaining 10 armour breaks on your opponent. He can seriously rival some of the highest damage cosmics in the game when played well with a boatload of utility to boot. His immunities are great, he can lock down any power manipulation against metal opponents and has solid survivability with his indestructible charges, of which you can keep between 4 and 6 for most of his rotation. Overall Terrax has to be one of if not the most underrated champions in the game right now, although he’s not given quite as much hate as the next champ on the list.

This champion receives straight up hate, people have said he’s bad from the start and wrote him off as one of the worst titan pulls whilst he was in the crystal. However I fully believe that The Leader is up there with the science greats.

He has the ability to just completely shut down any regen or power gain ability within about 5 seconds of any fight. His spectre and withers go up to 200%, which can be maintained in most cases where you focus on only one, and even if you need to be applying both he will be reversing both power gain and regen the whole time. He can take the opponents willpower mastery and just straight up reverse it at the same potency it takes effect. That’s ignoring his ability to place a vitality on the opponent. If the opponent is running willpower, recovery and you have a vitality + 10 spectres you’re doing a guaranteed 1.5%+ damage every second. No matter how much health, what rank, nothing. 1.5% a second. Is he the fastest champion in the game? No. Does he have the best block proficiency? Yes actually (weirdly enough). But in all seriousness he’s a super super safe option for any PvP fight and great for battlegrounds, you can get almost every opponent down in about 60 seconds regardless of any outside factors. He is one of my favourite Serpent counters cause not only can he take the fight very well, reducing the power gain (only to 50% but it’s still noticeable and only needs 2/3 withers at any given time) but also his damage is not affected by Serpents resistances or high health. He also has super high block proficiency, allowing him to just block L1s and heal off them (even if Serpent is at the Pierce phase which usually only happens at the very end). The Leader reversed the healing from Death immunity and reduces the power gain such that it’s almost as if it doesn’t happen.

Overall Colossus and Terrax are very underrated, but the Leader is the MOST underrated champion in the game by a long shot, and in fact should get a lot more usage than he does right now
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  • TP33TP33 Member Posts: 1,772 ★★★★★



    Some examples of Terrax just going crazy in ROL. The slower ones is Terrax all on his own no boosts no synergies at RANK TWO. Sig 20.

    The faster one is still no boosts but with Galan, Anihullus, Hiemdall and Angela. Honestly the Heimdall synergy just slows him down, taking a second and a half for just 15% more attack isn’t even that big a benefit for this short (yes SHORT) a fight.

    I fear to imagine what a R3 or even R4 could do. May well be able to one cycle without having to go to L2. I’m not gonna say I’m the best Terrax player at all, I’m probably using him super sub optimally, and a high sig will definitely knock off tens of seconds from his time (removing half the build up back to an L2)
  • ItsClobberinTimeItsClobberinTime Member Posts: 6,336 ★★★★★

    Every week I read comments about his built in recoils and his terrible base crit rating lol as if any of that made him bad, clearly it doesn't.
  • TP33TP33 Member Posts: 1,772 ★★★★★


    Every week I read comments about his built in recoils and his terrible base crit rating lol as if any of that made him bad, clearly it doesn't.

    I think the built in recoil issue is just for BG players. I mean with 11 Daunteds he does the trick in a lot of fights but locking his max damage behind either max sig or 10% self inflicted damage is kinda rough. Especially when his L2 struggles to crit on a lot of hits which means that he’s not as consistent an attacker as you would like.

    A lot of BGs is just about consistency. The reason Shocker is so loved is cause he can’t crit, and his damage is the same every fight, so you know what rotation to run every fight. Mutants which rely on crit RNG have always struggled to be loved, despite having really high damage potential
  • TP33TP33 Member Posts: 1,772 ★★★★★
    I mean. If you look at the history of most loved mutants you see champs like

    Omega Red
    Havok
    Archangel
    Apoc
    Prof X
    Mr Sinister
    Dazzler
    DPX
    Onslaught

    Who you don’t see is

    Storm PX
    Gambit
    Emma Frost
    Captain Britain

    The first group of champs don’t rely at all on crit RNG on specials, cause they do alternate damage or have guaranteed crits (Dazzler)

    The second have a high ceiling (or did relative to when they were released) but rely on crit RNG on their specials, why take the risk in a mode like BGs or AW, ESPECIALLY if you take damage from in built recoil at the end of the special. Sure Gentle CAN do fights in 30 seconds, but can he do every fight in 30 seconds? Or does he take some at 100% in 30, and others at below 90 in more like 50?

  • NONYABIZZNONYABIZZ Member Posts: 986 ★★★★
    I'm so glad kabam decided to add crit modifiers for the mutants because they have ALWAYS been the class with the highest damage outputs (per rotation).
    It just went under the radar because their damage was never consistent. I was shocked when I saw storm px was a 5/5 attacker when i read her spotlight last year.
    Literally no one would've believed she was because of the terrible crit rate.
    Same with champs like bishop and dani moonstar.
    Mutant has always excelled damage wise they just lacked consistency and im happy the devs are addicting that factor to their kits.
  • NONYABIZZNONYABIZZ Member Posts: 986 ★★★★


    Every week I read comments about his built in recoils and his terrible base crit rating lol as if any of that made him bad, clearly it doesn't.

    Really? He can do 500k in one rotation?
    I've seen him STRUGGLE to kill r3 bullseyes in Bg's.
    Is yours r4?
  • Emilia90Emilia90 Member Posts: 4,013 ★★★★★
    TP33 said:


    Every week I read comments about his built in recoils and his terrible base crit rating lol as if any of that made him bad, clearly it doesn't.

    I think the built in recoil issue is just for BG players. I mean with 11 Daunteds he does the trick in a lot of fights but locking his max damage behind either max sig or 10% self inflicted damage is kinda rough. Especially when his L2 struggles to crit on a lot of hits which means that he’s not as consistent an attacker as you would like.

    A lot of BGs is just about consistency. The reason Shocker is so loved is cause he can’t crit, and his damage is the same every fight, so you know what rotation to run every fight. Mutants which rely on crit RNG have always struggled to be loved, despite having really high damage potential
    I mean a lot of inconsistent attackers like Titania are still amazing, just depends on their matchups I guess (and she can do like 90% of meta defenders which is crazy good) even if the AI is wonky

    Answering the question, I’d say White Tiger is still under appreciated. Very fun champ to use
  • GrassKnucklesGrassKnuckles Member Posts: 1,965 ★★★★★
    Class by class: Silver Sable, Colossus, Ironheart, Vox, Purgatory, Spider-Punk
  • TP33TP33 Member Posts: 1,772 ★★★★★

    Class by class: Silver Sable, Colossus, Ironheart, Vox, Purgatory, Spider-Punk

    Not Arcade?
    Emilia90 said:

    TP33 said:


    Every week I read comments about his built in recoils and his terrible base crit rating lol as if any of that made him bad, clearly it doesn't.

    I think the built in recoil issue is just for BG players. I mean with 11 Daunteds he does the trick in a lot of fights but locking his max damage behind either max sig or 10% self inflicted damage is kinda rough. Especially when his L2 struggles to crit on a lot of hits which means that he’s not as consistent an attacker as you would like.

    A lot of BGs is just about consistency. The reason Shocker is so loved is cause he can’t crit, and his damage is the same every fight, so you know what rotation to run every fight. Mutants which rely on crit RNG have always struggled to be loved, despite having really high damage potential
    I mean a lot of inconsistent attackers like Titania are still amazing, just depends on their matchups I guess (and she can do like 90% of meta defenders which is crazy good) even if the AI is wonky

    Answering the question, I’d say White Tiger is still under appreciated. Very fun champ to use
    Yeah but Titanias damage loop doesn’t rely on her critting on her special attacks, if she fails to crit on a couple hits you’ve got about 2 full combos after the L3 rotation to make up for it, whereas for a lot of these mutants they get 3 or so hits which need to crit or they have to ramp up all over again
  • laserjohn26laserjohn26 Member Posts: 1,632 ★★★★★
    Moleman
  • Vance2_jrVance2_jr Member Posts: 805 ★★★★
    Venompool.
  • Herbal_TaxmanHerbal_Taxman Member Posts: 2,336 ★★★★★
    Wiccan
  • Darthbane3141Darthbane3141 Member Posts: 1,302 ★★★★
    JhonST33 said:

    Serpent on attack

    Serpent on attack is underrated?
    Why?
    He is one of the best cosmic attacker.
    A lot of people think he's bad for BGs in attack, so I thought he was underrated
  • ItsClobberinTimeItsClobberinTime Member Posts: 6,336 ★★★★★
    edited May 18
    NONYABIZZ said:


    Every week I read comments about his built in recoils and his terrible base crit rating lol as if any of that made him bad, clearly it doesn't.

    Really? He can do 500k in one rotation?
    I've seen him STRUGGLE to kill r3 bullseyes in Bg's.
    Is yours r4?
    Nope r3, and he hasn't failed me once yet so I want to see all these videos of him not closing out fights cause I highly doubt it happens that often. 9 times out of 10 he gets me three crits which is well over 400k damage in total, enough to kill almost anything.
    I think it's just a misconception because his base crit rating is so low, he gets close to 5k crit rating during sp2 tho which is more than a sig 200 Red Guardian with two debuffs on the defender to put things into perspective.
  • NONYABIZZNONYABIZZ Member Posts: 986 ★★★★
    Yh i know his crit rating is very high
    I've seen bero man use him multiple times with the sp2 not killing and the fight finishing in 70+ secs this meta. I also think he played with the 13th daunted cos he was finishing with about 80%+ health.
  • ItsClobberinTimeItsClobberinTime Member Posts: 6,336 ★★★★★
    TP33 said:


    Every week I read comments about his built in recoils and his terrible base crit rating lol as if any of that made him bad, clearly it doesn't.

    I think the built in recoil issue is just for BG players. I mean with 11 Daunteds he does the trick in a lot of fights but locking his max damage behind either max sig or 10% self inflicted damage is kinda rough. Especially when his L2 struggles to crit on a lot of hits which means that he’s not as consistent an attacker as you would like.

    A lot of BGs is just about consistency. The reason Shocker is so loved is cause he can’t crit, and his damage is the same every fight, so you know what rotation to run every fight. Mutants which rely on crit RNG have always struggled to be loved, despite having really high damage potential
    Couple of things here:

    1. Built in recoils are only an issue if the sp2 doesn't kill, my experience so far in BGs it's an instant ko 9 times out of 10.
    2. His sp2 doesn't struggle to crit that's a misconception and I'm not sure where it started but some on these forums say the same thing. He gains 5k crit rating during sp2, to put things into perspective CGR's sp2 crit buff gives him 9k crit rating, sig 200 Red Guardian has around 4.5k crit rating with two debuffs on the defender. It makes no sense for Gentle to be landing very few crits like some people claim, and again this hasn't been the case for me with my r3 personally.

    That's what makes Gentle different here, he has massive crit rating during sp2 and you almost always get at least three crits. I've done a lot of testing both in BGs and RoL, he's even more consistent than Sunspot when it comes to crits, way more consistent.
  • ItsClobberinTimeItsClobberinTime Member Posts: 6,336 ★★★★★
    NONYABIZZ said:

    Yh i know his crit rating is very high
    I've seen bero man use him multiple times with the sp2 not killing and the fight finishing in 70+ secs this meta. I also think he played with the 13th daunted cos he was finishing with about 80%+ health.

    Did he throw specials while unstoppable? Cause that's what gives him the massive attack rating boost as well.
    Also who did he use him against? If you're punching a bunch of ranks above or using him against someone like Rintrah yes very unlikely one sp2 will kill.
  • ErcarretErcarret Member Posts: 3,195 ★★★★★
    Howard the Duck, Sandman and Venompool are probably my top 3 slightly unusual rank-ups.

    If Howard didn't have so much of his utility hidden away in synergies, he'd be a god. I've easily soloed Necropolis fights with him all synergised up. (I really struggled against Sauron on several runs only to solo him on my first try with Howard. Ridiculous.) However, even on his own, he's really solid for a whole lot of stuff. He has a bunch of buffs on command, just as many debuffs on command, easy access to heal block and a fairly potent access to power-control via the suppression debuffs on his SP2.

    I've sung Sandman's praises before so I won't go into too much detail now, but he has a ton of utility and great damage. Especially now that I've mostly transitioned away from Battlegrounds, I just find more and more uses for him in all kinds of content.

    Lastly, Venompool is just amazing against all manner of Tech (and especially robot) champions. He has this reputation for being a really slow ramp-up champion but what people often miss is that whenever one of his many immunities triggers, that ramp-up gets cut down drastically. That means that there are a ton of situation where he has a very quick path to full ramp and he shines really brightly. He's not amazing against every champion in the game but he fills a lot of niches.
  • NONYABIZZNONYABIZZ Member Posts: 986 ★★★★
    edited May 18

    NONYABIZZ said:

    Yh i know his crit rating is very high
    I've seen bero man use him multiple times with the sp2 not killing and the fight finishing in 70+ secs this meta. I also think he played with the 13th daunted cos he was finishing with about 80%+ health.

    Did he throw specials while unstoppable? Cause that's what gives him the massive attack rating boost as well.
    Also who did he use him against? If you're punching a bunch of ranks above or using him against someone like Rintrah yes very unlikely one sp2 will kill.
    The fights I remember were against bullseye
    I know gentle is a competent bullseye counter tho, just was surprising
  • shield311shield311 Member Posts: 1,609 ★★★★★
    Odin, Namor and Prof X
  • ItsClobberinTimeItsClobberinTime Member Posts: 6,336 ★★★★★
    NONYABIZZ said:

    NONYABIZZ said:

    Yh i know his crit rating is very high
    I've seen bero man use him multiple times with the sp2 not killing and the fight finishing in 70+ secs this meta. I also think he played with the 13th daunted cos he was finishing with about 80%+ health.

    Did he throw specials while unstoppable? Cause that's what gives him the massive attack rating boost as well.
    Also who did he use him against? If you're punching a bunch of ranks above or using him against someone like Rintrah yes very unlikely one sp2 will kill.
    The fights I remember were against bullseye
    I know gentle is a competent bullseye counter tho, just was surprising
    Was it during the indestructible meta? He was very tricky to use on attack there, either half your hits would land while the defender was indestructible, or you wouldn't be able to throw it while unstoppable, both would basically cut his damage in half but it wasn't the crits themselves.
  • NONYABIZZNONYABIZZ Member Posts: 986 ★★★★
    Its been this meta mostly but its fine
    I'll just assume he didn't throw it at 13 daunted because im not 100% sure.
    If I do pull gentle, he's going into my deck as I do need a bullseye counter since my other one is r4 and perma banned.
    He also has some solid defensive prowess and can be used on attack outside skill (unlike noodlesonic)
    I always thought he was good.
  • BKSwisherSweetBKSwisherSweet Member Posts: 250 ★★
    Not sure if White Tiger counts but I’d say her since I use her all the time to nuke things.
  • ItsClobberinTimeItsClobberinTime Member Posts: 6,336 ★★★★★
    NONYABIZZ said:

    Its been this meta mostly but its fine
    I'll just assume he didn't throw it at 13 daunted because im not 100% sure.
    If I do pull gentle, he's going into my deck as I do need a bullseye counter since my other one is r4 and perma banned.
    He also has some solid defensive prowess and can be used on attack outside skill (unlike noodlesonic)
    I always thought he was good.

    If he didn't ko in one sp2 and he was losing 20% then he probably hasn't figured out how to use Gentle properly yet. His rotation is very simple but his kit can be a bit confusing if you don't read it properly cause it does require a lot of timing to get the most out of him.

    Definitely try him out if you pull him tho, he's imo the most braindead Bullseye counter in the game cause he literally counters him just by existing, and yes he is solid on defense unlike NTW. He's not a huge threat but he does stall because of the unstoppable you can't just throw specials whenever you want and if he throws sp2 that physical resistance passive basically makes even strong nukes like Silk and Red Guardian hit like noodles.
  • ThatGuyYouSaw235ThatGuyYouSaw235 Member Posts: 3,737 ★★★★★
    my boy Northstar, long fight king and sneaky defender
  • Ragnaruk5178Ragnaruk5178 Member Posts: 523 ★★
    Gladiator is actually a crazy nuke
  • Ragnaruk5178Ragnaruk5178 Member Posts: 523 ★★
    Also mordo is wild
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