Stark Spidey question

willrun4adonutwillrun4adonut Member Posts: 6,545 ★★★★★
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I'm not the best stark Spidey question, so it's probably something obvious I'm missing (with nodes, kit, etc).

In BG since the update to GC nodes for week 3/4, I've been using stark Spidey in my deck (took him to duped r3 last Wednesday).

I build up 10 poise charges (yes, I know I don't need that many), and when I hit my opponent after having ten charges, I'm only dealing ~8k criticals.

When I do it on winter Soldier, I'm dealing massively larger damage. What am I missing? Thanks all, and enjoy the laugh at my expense for something that's probably obvious. I can record a video if needed as it has been every fight against different champs (5 thus far since I've put him in my deck).

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  • shield311shield311 Member Posts: 1,536 ★★★★
    Names of champions fought might give some insight.
  • PolygonPolygon Member Posts: 5,405 ★★★★★
    shield311 said:

    Names of champions fought might give some insight.

    Only champs that reduce crit damage rating (that I can think of off the top of my head) are guardian , MT, and yelena

    Did you have any debuffs on you? One thing you can do is look at BGs livestreams and see what their sparky is hitting. I'd tell you but im still haunted by picking 1 masacre instead of duping him (might just generic him)
  • WednesdayLengthWednesdayLength Member Posts: 2,826 ★★★★★
    Polygon said:

    shield311 said:

    Names of champions fought might give some insight.

    Only champs that reduce crit damage rating (that I can think of off the top of my head) are guardian , MT, and yelena

    Did you have any debuffs on you? One thing you can do is look at BGs livestreams and see what their sparky is hitting. I'd tell you but im still haunted by picking 1 masacre instead of duping him (might just generic him)
    Warlock and northstar also prevent crits
  • startropicsstartropics Member Posts: 1,332 ★★★★★
    you know...maybe i'm wrong but i did notice reduced damage with him in the beta. maybe he's bugged?
  • willrun4adonutwillrun4adonut Member Posts: 6,545 ★★★★★
    startropics said:

    you know...maybe i'm wrong but i did notice reduced damage with him in the beta. maybe he's bugged?

    I'm actually going with that. The defenders have many (Onslaught, Titania, Sassy, and more), but I can only duplicate it on BG. Here's a video of it. Ignore the poor gameplay as I was just trying to get the video. Ten poise charges and no damage

    https://youtu.be/wAl-E0HP1Qo?si=3OBhSs9SjVH0HQxz
  • GamerGamer Member Posts: 11,862 ★★★★★
    willrun4adonut said:

    startropics said:

    you know...maybe i'm wrong but i did notice reduced damage with him in the beta. maybe he's bugged?

    I'm actually going with that. The defenders have many (Onslaught, Titania, Sassy, and more), but I can only duplicate it on BG. Here's a video of it. Ignore the poor gameplay as I was just trying to get the video. Ten poise charges and no damage

    https://youtu.be/wAl-E0HP1Qo?si=3OBhSs9SjVH0HQxz
    That’s i think is a zola ability.
  • Wolf911Wolf911 Member Posts: 1,010 ★★★★
    that’s zola’s ability

  • willrun4adonutwillrun4adonut Member Posts: 6,545 ★★★★★
    Gamer said:

    willrun4adonut said:

    startropics said:

    you know...maybe i'm wrong but i did notice reduced damage with him in the beta. maybe he's bugged?

    I'm actually going with that. The defenders have many (Onslaught, Titania, Sassy, and more), but I can only duplicate it on BG. Here's a video of it. Ignore the poor gameplay as I was just trying to get the video. Ten poise charges and no damage

    https://youtu.be/wAl-E0HP1Qo?si=3OBhSs9SjVH0HQxz
    That’s i think is a zola ability.
    It's the same damage for Sassy that I just fought as well, and Onslaught and Titania. Always 8.5k crit.
  • GamerGamer Member Posts: 11,862 ★★★★★
    willrun4adonut said:

    Gamer said:

    willrun4adonut said:

    startropics said:

    you know...maybe i'm wrong but i did notice reduced damage with him in the beta. maybe he's bugged?

    I'm actually going with that. The defenders have many (Onslaught, Titania, Sassy, and more), but I can only duplicate it on BG. Here's a video of it. Ignore the poor gameplay as I was just trying to get the video. Ten poise charges and no damage

    https://youtu.be/wAl-E0HP1Qo?si=3OBhSs9SjVH0HQxz
    That’s i think is a zola ability.
    It's the same damage for Sassy that I just fought as well, and Onslaught and Titania. Always 8.5k crit.
    Well i can’t said for those. But against zola there is a explanation
  • Average_DesiAverage_Desi Member Posts: 2,148 ★★★★★


    When crit pen gone, makes sense why there's little damage.

    There's a video on beromans channel showing the same damage
  • willrun4adonutwillrun4adonut Member Posts: 6,545 ★★★★★
    Average_Desi said:



    When crit pen gone, makes sense why there's little damage.

    There's a video on beromans channel showing the same damage

    Thanks. Didn't know I picked a poor champ. I'll make another video with another opponent now and look like a fool again.
  • SirGamesBondSirGamesBond Member Posts: 7,102 ★★★★★
    edited May 19
    willrun4adonut said:

    Gamer said:

    willrun4adonut said:

    startropics said:

    you know...maybe i'm wrong but i did notice reduced damage with him in the beta. maybe he's bugged?

    I'm actually going with that. The defenders have many (Onslaught, Titania, Sassy, and more), but I can only duplicate it on BG. Here's a video of it. Ignore the poor gameplay as I was just trying to get the video. Ten poise charges and no damage

    https://youtu.be/wAl-E0HP1Qo?si=3OBhSs9SjVH0HQxz
    That’s i think is a zola ability.
    It's the same damage for Sassy that I just fought as well, and Onslaught and Titania. Always 8.5k crit.
    Every rage charge on sassy gives him 5% protection.
    ...
    I used him earlier. He did fine.

  • Average_DesiAverage_Desi Member Posts: 2,148 ★★★★★
    willrun4adonut said:

    Average_Desi said:



    When crit pen gone, makes sense why there's little damage.

    There's a video on beromans channel showing the same damage

    Thanks. Didn't know I picked a poor champ. I'll make another video with another opponent now and look like a fool again.
    You probably know this , but we can't get the same damage as WS due to challenger rating difference
  • GamerGamer Member Posts: 11,862 ★★★★★
    Average_Desi said:

    willrun4adonut said:

    Average_Desi said:



    When crit pen gone, makes sense why there's little damage.

    There's a video on beromans channel showing the same damage

    Thanks. Didn't know I picked a poor champ. I'll make another video with another opponent now and look like a fool again.
    You probably know this , but we can't get the same damage as WS due to challenger rating difference
    That’s is a good shout to. He just a dummy’s. To test one. Honestly lol or abyss should be the new testing ground lol could remove the damage cap. And but i know that’s what ever happened
  • SirGamesBondSirGamesBond Member Posts: 7,102 ★★★★★
    willrun4adonut said:


    https://youtu.be/wAl-E0HP1Qo?si=3OBhSs9SjVH0HQxz

    Baller AI.
  • Average_DesiAverage_Desi Member Posts: 2,148 ★★★★★
    SirGamesBond said:

    willrun4adonut said:


    https://youtu.be/wAl-E0HP1Qo?si=3OBhSs9SjVH0HQxz

    Baller AI.
    Does that mean good or bad? Sorry, I'm La Freunch
  • willrun4adonutwillrun4adonut Member Posts: 6,545 ★★★★★
    Average_Desi said:

    willrun4adonut said:

    Average_Desi said:



    When crit pen gone, makes sense why there's little damage.

    There's a video on beromans channel showing the same damage

    Thanks. Didn't know I picked a poor champ. I'll make another video with another opponent now and look like a fool again.
    You probably know this , but we can't get the same damage as WS due to challenger rating difference
    I do know this. Just wasn't sure why it was so low. But I see I was picking bad champs (sassy, Zola, FAM). Went back to look at screen shots of Onslaught and Titania fights and saw I didn't have 10 charges, so that was that fights.
  • Alone13Alone13 Member Posts: 273 ★★
    willrun4adonut said:

    startropics said:

    you know...maybe i'm wrong but i did notice reduced damage with him in the beta. maybe he's bugged?

    I'm actually going with that. The defenders have many (Onslaught, Titania, Sassy, and more), but I can only duplicate it on BG. Here's a video of it. Ignore the poor gameplay as I was just trying to get the video. Ten poise charges and no damage

    https://youtu.be/wAl-E0HP1Qo?si=3OBhSs9SjVH0HQxz
    That's not CPU playing, that's Literally "AI" playing.
  • Ragnaruk5178Ragnaruk5178 Member Posts: 454 ★★
    Winter soldier has low armor rating compared to other champs
  • Emilia90Emilia90 Member Posts: 3,855 ★★★★★
    Sassy does have protection and Zola does too. Starky is great for Zola though, go for the sp2 shocks at 10 poise and he melts him :) same for FAM, build your poise and intercept and he takes him really well

    Used him just a few days ago, r3 Starky vs r4 onslaught and he was still doing massive damage

  • SirGamesBondSirGamesBond Member Posts: 7,102 ★★★★★
    Average_Desi said:

    SirGamesBond said:

    willrun4adonut said:


    https://youtu.be/wAl-E0HP1Qo?si=3OBhSs9SjVH0HQxz

    Baller AI.
    Does that mean good or bad? Sorry, I'm La Freunch
    Mi poo poo.

    https://youtu.be/oYMzkj7j4EM?si=gl9bT26akgwf6pgb
  • Amanda_CruzeAmanda_Cruze Member Posts: 425 ★★★
    What's the sig on stark spidey?
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