Alliance War Season 58 Changes
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Alliance War Season 58 Changes 251 votes
It's better than old AW, I like it
37%
93 votes
It's all the same to me, I'm neutral
9%
23 votes
It's worse than old AW, I hate it
53%
135 votes
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Just curious about the old rewards still being shown for the solo events. Assume they just missed that update?
But there are still some bugs. I spend a lot of time fighting Killmonger, because Reverberation reflected ridiculously high amounts of damage after I was tuned up
Pros:
->If you have a busy schedule these matches will take no more than 8-10 minutes, and regular AW takes longer due to energy, it’s quick and simple.
-> You can chose wether to face more or skip, I like that.
-> Bring the right counter it’s quite easy, I used my void for Hercules and nearly solo’d took some block damage that I didn’t pay attention to plus forgot about recoil.
-> Defenders seem to easier due to counters having even more benefits due to the charges you get, someone solo’d my serpent (sob).
-> Thank god you get two slots not one.
-> Planning is definitely easier, as long as the nodes aren’t an essay long that’s all good.
Cons:
-> Nitpick maybe, but I think the concept around Thing and the banner for AW now is just a bit unprofessional perhaps? It’s kinda weird to me.
-> Some people enjoy facing quite a few obstacles, I personally don’t care but I see those voices.
-> Maybe it’s too easy? Idk if you plan ahead there’s a good chance you are probably solo’ing, especially in hazard shifts now.
-> I’m trying to think of more cons but I really can’t.
I enjoy it more, I can do this before work on the train and not have to wait for energy. For competitive players this probably isn’t the change you guys want. But for me in Gold 2 I’m actually digging it.
I think we should’ve given it a chance and I’m glad I did, because I don’t mind it, it is a simple mode and it does what it says on the tin. I personally feel that those buffed rewards are being given for an easier game mode. That could be just me though.
Devs are trying something new that would help. I had wars where we couldn't finish bc there were situations where the players couldn't get on. Not to mention the new combo nodes made path 9 very hard as the counters I had for the defenders were useless bc they didn't have immunity to fight. And staring at the screen for 5 mins trying to figure out what team to bring wasn't fun at all.
This format is much better, yes, Healthpool is bigger, but honestly, I'd rather worry bout 1 fight than 6 fights plus mini boss/boss island and hoping I don't give many deaths. But hey, that's my opinion, and I stand by it.
You usually expect to coordinate fights, collaborate, and brainstorm with your alliance teammates — now it’s just a basic fight.
It feels more like Custom Raids than Alliance War, lol.
I don't want to be spending two days thinking about it. With the new format, its one and done. Simple. Decent solo rewards, even if our Ally doesn't place high.
I hope it's kept as an option to choose as an alternative to the standard War set up.
Much more enjoyable for low tier ally's.
Went from one of my top favorite game modes to now my most hated.
That doesn’t mean the old format was perfect. It needed improvement — just not like this.
From what I’ve gathered so far, this new format is being favored mainly because it’s quick and simple. And yes, AW has had relatively low engagement compared to the active player base.
But is that due to the map format? Or are there deeper issues that needed attention instead?
Yes, the old map could feel time-consuming or complicated, but why?
• Team coordination, mostly for pre-fights. And honestly, some leadership structures made it more complicated than it needed to be. I’ve seen it play out many times.
• Energy limits. You couldn’t complete your path in one go unless you bought energy. But why would anyone spend units when the rewards already feel underwhelming — especially for low- to mid-level players?
I find this interesting because myself and other players thought AW was meant to be difficult, sophisticated and expensive. Maybe Kabam communicated that unknowingly or maybe we just assumed wrongly. We often talked about things to improve it. This format has reduced AW to its last atom.
Anyways, let’s take some of the principles from this new format and apply them to the old one:
• The new map can be completed in one go. So instead of overhauling everything, just remove or increase energy in the original format.
It’s not the fight time themselves that players complain about — it’s how energy wait times stretch out what should be a 10–15 minute task into hours alongside coordination
• As for coordination, this new map lets players bring two champs. You basically need one, with the second spot for pre-fight support (Odin, Mr. F, White Mags, etc.). Yes, in some alliances in the old format, leadership overcomplicates things — assigning mixed paths, juggling pre-fights, micromanaging fights. But that’s not Kabam’s responsibility. Let players decide how complex they want war to be. But it doesn’t mean you can provide support and boundaries. There are ways to reduce that dependency in the old format, eg:
• Make pre-fights purchasable, like power boosts.
• Or let players pre-select 1–2 pre-fight effects to bring into war.
Sure, this new format might get more players involved short-term — especially in lower or mid-tier alliances — but if rewards stay weak and the format doesn’t grow more engaging, the activity will drop off fast. I’m already seeing highly active players pull back. Personally, I’m not even motivated to play next season — maybe just for the rewards.
Are you planning to rotate the “Big Thing” global or node?
Attack and defense tactics weren’t a bad idea in the old format. You just needed to make them more engaging and fun, not overly punishing.
And please stop catering design changes to the top 1–5 alliances because a handful say a tactic is “too easy.” If you’re hiring content creators as consultants, make sure they’re not just designing content to entertain their friends.
Let me ask: do you honestly think lower to mid-level players enjoy fighting all the “nasty” defenders and their “nasty” node interactions? You’re overloading champions with boss-node and mastery defining abilities. Then you expect these players to grind the mode that barely rewards them?
Why not use nodes to truly define the difficulty and stop baking everything into the champions themselves. I get that it’s tied to monetizing new champs. But you need to balance that with the long-term health of the game.
I’m honestly tired, this is too long. Yes, you have data. But we’ve been playing long enough to know when something isn’t working.
And lastly — the rewards. They’re outdated for most players. Maybe what AW needed to boost participation was never a format change — just a meaningful reward update.
Thanks for reading.
Most probably it's bcos the rewards isn't good enough regardless of the map
In an attempt to simplify and streamline Alliance War Kabam has effectively gutted a core dynamic of The Contest which Alliances and the player community are built around. I, and many in my Alliance, have found the new AW format somewhat boring and uninspired. There is no more strategy and with one fight for each Alliance member there is really no more communication amongst the Alliance. In terms of saving time, fighting one defender at 1000% health takes just as much time as clearing a normal AW path.
While the new mode really doesn't save a lot of time when compared to the traditional format I have found my own participation as a player nosedive since the change. Taking away my favorite game mode hasn’t made me excited to focus on other game modes it has given me time to focus on other games I’d rather play.
I think making this change to AW permanent would be a great miscalculation on Kabam's part; and they will see an overall decline in player participation as the long-time, more seasoned players lose interest after a key aspect of the game was changed in an attempt to appease and bring in newer players.
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It's basic fight with Kushala/Purgatory.