Are there any other champions like Claire Voyant who make the defender buff immune?

NuclearNuclear Member Posts: 70 ★
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Just now noticed how good she is against Serpeant and Dark Phoenix, 2 of the most annoying cosmic defenders and was wondering are there any other champs who can force a buff immunity on the defender?
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  • SlayerOfGodsSlayerOfGods Member, Content Creators Posts: 724 Content Creator
    Beerus2Strong said:

    She has fantastic utility that's for sure but her damage isn't all too impressive to me. Either that or I use her wrong. Still I maxed her out and ascended her just 2 weeks ago

    With Recoils she isn't too bad
  • WednesdayLengthWednesdayLength Member Posts: 2,937 ★★★★★
    Nuclear said:

    Kabam (Osaurus) Rex said:

    Buff Immunity is pretty strong

    Even if not a 7* it's weird to me how forgotten she is since she can pretty much...
    -Remove all of Maestros buffs before they become passives
    -Remove all of Red Skulls armor ups making him non treat
    -Remove Serpeant death immortality with 100% guarantee
    -Remove Dark Phoenix unstaggarable debuffs (unstopabble and power gain) and immortality too bad nova flame is still a thing but that's a whole nother thing

    And probably a couple of others I missed but still I don't think there is any other Mystic champ that comes close to her


    I mean that's kind of the point, buff immunity is an absurdly powerful ability to be able to place on the opponent
  • Bugmat78Bugmat78 Member Posts: 2,573 ★★★★★
    Nuclear said:

    Kabam (Osaurus) Rex said:

    Buff Immunity is pretty strong

    Even if not a 7* it's weird to me how forgotten she is since she can pretty much...
    -Remove all of Maestros buffs before they become passives
    -Remove all of Red Skulls armor ups making him non treat
    -Remove Serpeant death immortality with 100% guarantee
    -Remove Dark Phoenix unstaggarable debuffs (unstopabble and power gain) and immortality too bad nova flame is still a thing but that's a whole nother thing

    And probably a couple of others I missed but still I don't think there is any other Mystic champ that comes close to her


    It's why Kabam don't want to release her as a 7* sadly.
  • FurrymoosenFurrymoosen Member Posts: 6,102 ★★★★★
    edited May 28
    Beerus2Strong said:

    She has fantastic utility that's for sure but her damage isn't all too impressive to me. Either that or I use her wrong. Still I maxed her out and ascended her just 2 weeks ago

    Her damage would be improved quite a bit if they made her secondary damage on her incinerate SP2 scale with modified attack instead of just sitting in the garbage. Nothing quite like getting some 50k hits followed up by 3k secondary.
  • captain_rogerscaptain_rogers Member Posts: 12,809 ★★★★★
    Furrymoosen said:

    Beerus2Strong said:

    She has fantastic utility that's for sure but her damage isn't all too impressive to me. Either that or I use her wrong. Still I maxed her out and ascended her just 2 weeks ago

    Her damage would be improved quite a bit if they made her secondary damage on her incinerate SP2 scale with modified attack instead of just sitting in the garbage. Nothing quite like getting some 50k hits followed up by 3k secondary.
    Her utility is too good it's fine her damage stays meh. She was never meant to be a bgs or pvp champ she's best used in story modes for her broken life steal and sustainability. But I'm surprised kabam consider her more OP than tigra and juggy
  • Average_DesiAverage_Desi Member Posts: 2,292 ★★★★★
    Furrymoosen said:

    Beerus2Strong said:

    She has fantastic utility that's for sure but her damage isn't all too impressive to me. Either that or I use her wrong. Still I maxed her out and ascended her just 2 weeks ago

    Her damage would be improved quite a bit if they made her secondary damage on her incinerate SP2 scale with modified attack instead of just sitting in the garbage. Nothing quite like getting some 50k hits followed up by 3k secondary.
    Back when I was maining her as a 5* , I was going crazy not understanding what was happening with her damage. Some attack bonuses worked, but some didn't. I didn't know what "scaled with base attack" was back then and thought I had discovered some deep conspiracy BWCV bug
  • Beerus2StrongBeerus2Strong Member Posts: 231 ★★
    Furrymoosen said:

    Beerus2Strong said:

    She has fantastic utility that's for sure but her damage isn't all too impressive to me. Either that or I use her wrong. Still I maxed her out and ascended her just 2 weeks ago

    Her damage would be improved quite a bit if they made her secondary damage on her incinerate SP2 scale with modified attack instead of just sitting in the garbage. Nothing quite like getting some 50k hits followed up by 3k secondary.
    Totally agree
  • Beerus2StrongBeerus2Strong Member Posts: 231 ★★
    SlayerOfGods said:

    Beerus2Strong said:

    She has fantastic utility that's for sure but her damage isn't all too impressive to me. Either that or I use her wrong. Still I maxed her out and ascended her just 2 weeks ago

    With Recoils she isn't too bad
    Noted. I have never used suicides so I still don't know how much difference they make
  • OurobørosOurobøros Member Posts: 2,170 ★★★★★
    I remember having to remove her from my BG deck because, although she's good for so many matches, she lacks damage and won't finish the fight in a suitable time
  • Bugmat78Bugmat78 Member Posts: 2,573 ★★★★★
    edited May 28
    captain_rogers said:

    Furrymoosen said:

    Beerus2Strong said:

    She has fantastic utility that's for sure but her damage isn't all too impressive to me. Either that or I use her wrong. Still I maxed her out and ascended her just 2 weeks ago

    Her damage would be improved quite a bit if they made her secondary damage on her incinerate SP2 scale with modified attack instead of just sitting in the garbage. Nothing quite like getting some 50k hits followed up by 3k secondary.
    Her utility is too good it's fine her damage stays meh. She was never meant to be a bgs or pvp champ she's best used in story modes for her broken life steal and sustainability. But I'm surprised kabam consider her more OP than tigra and juggy
    She counters some of the best defenders presently. Existing a 7* would help increase her damage that is lacking as a 6*.
  • Graves_3Graves_3 Member Posts: 1,817 ★★★★★
    Lokx said:

    WednesdayLength said:

    Nuclear said:

    Kabam (Osaurus) Rex said:

    Buff Immunity is pretty strong

    Even if not a 7* it's weird to me how forgotten she is since she can pretty much...
    -Remove all of Maestros buffs before they become passives
    -Remove all of Red Skulls armor ups making him non treat
    -Remove Serpeant death immortality with 100% guarantee
    -Remove Dark Phoenix unstaggarable debuffs (unstopabble and power gain) and immortality too bad nova flame is still a thing but that's a whole nother thing

    And probably a couple of others I missed but still I don't think there is any other Mystic champ that comes close to her


    I mean that's kind of the point, buff immunity is an absurdly powerful ability to be able to place on the opponent
    So strong that one of the nodes in 9.3, they had immunity to buff immunity lol.
    Is that a hint she is coming as a 7*?
  • captain_rogerscaptain_rogers Member Posts: 12,809 ★★★★★
    Bugmat78 said:

    captain_rogers said:

    Furrymoosen said:

    Beerus2Strong said:

    She has fantastic utility that's for sure but her damage isn't all too impressive to me. Either that or I use her wrong. Still I maxed her out and ascended her just 2 weeks ago

    Her damage would be improved quite a bit if they made her secondary damage on her incinerate SP2 scale with modified attack instead of just sitting in the garbage. Nothing quite like getting some 50k hits followed up by 3k secondary.
    Her utility is too good it's fine her damage stays meh. She was never meant to be a bgs or pvp champ she's best used in story modes for her broken life steal and sustainability. But I'm surprised kabam consider her more OP than tigra and juggy
    She counters some of the best defenders presently. Existing a 7* would help increase her damage that is lacking as a 6*.
    Yeah I agree. But even as 7* I don't think shell6be viable for bgs
  • NuclearNuclear Member Posts: 70 ★
    Beerus2Strong said:

    She has fantastic utility that's for sure but her damage isn't all too impressive to me. Either that or I use her wrong. Still I maxed her out and ascended her just 2 weeks ago

    I always thought that sp2 on flame thingy did pretty good damage only the bleed based sp2 was kinda weak
  • Sunstar19Sunstar19 Member Posts: 322 ★★
    Used her a lot myself, great utility with smooth animation. Her bleed based attacks is meant to be more defensive due to regen ability hence weaker damage, while her biggest damage comes from incinerate based attack using SP2
  • houndogακιhoundogακι Member Posts: 319 ★★
    As my line bot says 😁
    Buff immunity
    - Spider Man 2099
    - Red Guardian
    - Hulk - Hulk is Immune to Buffs. Whenever a Buff is prevented by Immunity, inflict a -250 Physical Vulnerability Debuff for 3 seconds. Max: 20.
    Add Silver Surfer in the team.
    - Ant-Man
    - Spot
    - Titania
    - Cassie Lang
  • DaddriedaDaddrieda Member Posts: 1,722 ★★★★
    houndogακι said:

    As my line bot says 😁
    Buff immunity
    - Spider Man 2099
    - Red Guardian
    - Hulk - Hulk is Immune to Buffs. Whenever a Buff is prevented by Immunity, inflict a -250 Physical Vulnerability Debuff for 3 seconds. Max: 20.
    Add Silver Surfer in the team.
    - Ant-Man
    - Spot
    - Titania
    - Cassie Lang

    @houndogακι thats a different buff immunity. We are talking about the nullify method here.
  • houndogακιhoundogακι Member Posts: 319 ★★
    Yeah i got it now @Daddrieda
    Just wanna play with my skull bot 😁
  • JESUSCHRISTJESUSCHRIST Member Posts: 1,674 ★★★★
    Except she is locked at 6*
  • PolygonPolygon Member Posts: 5,425 ★★★★★


    Not yet but they're obviously going to release one because of the sell a strong Defender then sell its counter in dark Phoenix

    I doubt it'll happen for a while though because people spend 36k units just to get her
  • EdisonLawEdisonLaw Member Posts: 10,491 ★★★★★
    Polygon said:



    Not yet but they're obviously going to release one because of the sell a strong Defender then sell its counter in dark Phoenix

    I doubt it'll happen for a while though because people spend 36k units just to get her

    Nico Minoru could maybe have this
  • captain_rogerscaptain_rogers Member Posts: 12,809 ★★★★★
    Kabam (Osaurus) Rex said:

    Buff Immunity is pretty strong

    Yeah very strong I wonder will the new june champ will have it😭
  • EdisonLawEdisonLaw Member Posts: 10,491 ★★★★★
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vjGUgln6z14
  • WednesdayLengthWednesdayLength Member Posts: 2,937 ★★★★★
    I'm honestly shocked they added another character with offensive buff immunity but I'll take the L on that one, something I'm sure many people assumed I wasn't capable of doing 🫡
  • TheninThenin Member Posts: 58 ★
    Nuclear said:

    Kabam (Osaurus) Rex said:

    Buff Immunity is pretty strong

    Even if not a 7* it's weird to me how forgotten she is since she can pretty much...
    -Remove all of Maestros buffs before they become passives
    -Remove all of Red Skulls armor ups making him non treat
    -Remove Serpeant death immortality with 100% guarantee
    -Remove Dark Phoenix unstaggarable debuffs (unstopabble and power gain) and immortality too bad nova flame is still a thing but that's a whole nother thing

    And probably a couple of others I missed but still I don't think there is any other Mystic champ that comes close to her


    Ummm she can deal with nova flame just be in poison curse and apply them with heavy no nova flames.
  • PolygonPolygon Member Posts: 5,425 ★★★★★
    Polygon said:



    Not yet but they're obviously going to release one because of the sell a strong Defender then sell its counter in dark Phoenix

    I doubt it'll happen for a while though because people spend 36k units just to get her

    😭
    Bruh it happened 😭

    Ig 36k paywalls arent even safe from releasing a hard counter within the next titan .figured itd last a while since thats how long it took to get an actually viable serpent/bullseye counter
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