Would you like to see Captain Marvel Movie get a small kit update to make her more wanted for BG's?

TerminatrixTerminatrix Member Posts: 3,956 ★★★★★
edited June 3 in General Discussion

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I know some of you don't care about the champ. And that's okay, just scroll past this post. But for those who do, would you like to see a kit update? If so, what would you like to see improved? Nothing major, just a few BG tweaks.

Let's keep it civil and positive.

On offense, to help with her ramp up and maintain charges, I'd like for her to:

1. Start BGs with at least 10 charges, OR have a pre-fight ability that allows a synergy with Hulkling, or one of her synergy partners, OR allow her to gain 4 charges per block/parry against Tech champs.

2. Parry non-contact attacks while in Binary Ignition.

3. An immunity to a Mystic ability (for comic book accuracy).



Would you like to see Captain Marvel Movie get a small kit update to make her more wanted for BG's? 79 votes

Yes (mention your ideas)
34%
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No.
62%
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Not sure.
3%
ChobblySíc4rCuber2906 3 votes

Comments

  • summerdeersummerdeer Member Posts: 1,031 ★★★
    Yes (mention your ideas)
    the one thing bad about her is how the game apparently says she cant handle mystic energy so she takes extra damage like what
  • Ragnaruk5178Ragnaruk5178 Member Posts: 485 ★★
    Yes (mention your ideas)
    Why not? Nice to see your dedication to her
  • OurobørosOurobøros Member Posts: 2,185 ★★★★★
    No.
    summerdeer said:

    the one thing bad about her is how the game apparently says she cant handle mystic energy so she takes extra damage like what

    That's her weakness. She absorbs energy e use it, but she can't do that to mystic energy
  • captain_rogerscaptain_rogers Member Posts: 12,898 ★★★★★
    Yes (mention your ideas)
    She definitely shouldn't absorb mystic energy. She should getbulwark buff while less than 25 charges, and should get 4 against techs, 10 if you parry a special attack, for easier ramp.
  • TerminatrixTerminatrix Member Posts: 3,956 ★★★★★
    edited June 3
    summerdeer said:

    the one thing bad about her is how the game apparently says she cant handle mystic energy so she takes extra damage like what

    Yeah I found that very perplexing when Kabam introduced her, and even questioned it before. Like how is a new champ nerfed from the start? lol.
  • TerminatrixTerminatrix Member Posts: 3,956 ★★★★★
    Ragnaruk5178 said:

    Why not? Nice to see your dedication to her

    👊🏾 I appreciate that! I love this champ! She's still great, but I want her to advance with the game.
  • TerminatrixTerminatrix Member Posts: 3,956 ★★★★★
    edited June 3
    Average_Desi said:

    Terminatrix said:

    summerdeer said:

    the one thing bad about her is how the game apparently says she cant handle mystic energy so she takes extra damage like what

    Yeah I found that very perplexing when Kabam introduced her, and even questioned it before. Like how is a new champ nerfed from the start? lol.
    Class wheel dynamics. VOX has supercharged buffs, but when nullified he takes damage. This is something that is there for many champs. It has been that way for a very long time
    I'm very well aware of the class dynamics. But regardless of how long it's been this way, Kabam has still designed some cosmic champs to be immune to some Mystic abilities. Same for some Techs being armor break immune, etc. Class advantage goes out the window when they want it to.
  • TerminatrixTerminatrix Member Posts: 3,956 ★★★★★
    edited June 3
    WednesdayLength said:

    Not every character needs to be buffed 🥲 was everyone not going on about how she still holds up and is great for bgs but that long ago?

    They do as the game changes. And I'm not asking for a complete overhaul, just a few kit changes for BGs.

    I'm not sure. You got the link to that post? Yes she's still solid against the right defender, but that doesn't mean there's no room for improvement as the game changes. That has also been part of the feedback for her.
  • Average_DesiAverage_Desi Member Posts: 2,483 ★★★★★
    No.
    Terminatrix said:

    Average_Desi said:

    Terminatrix said:

    summerdeer said:

    the one thing bad about her is how the game apparently says she cant handle mystic energy so she takes extra damage like what

    Yeah I found that very perplexing when Kabam introduced her, and even questioned it before. Like how is a new champ nerfed from the start? lol.
    Class wheel dynamics. VOX has supercharged buffs, but when nullified he takes damage. This is something that is there for many champs. It has been that way for a very long time
    I'm very well aware of the class dynamics. But regardless of how long it's been this way, Kabam has still designed some cosmic champs to be immune to some Mystic abilities. Same for some Techs being armor break immune, etc. Class advantage goes out the window when they want it to.
    I was not referring to that. I was referring to her taking damage from mystics. That's a thing that still exists today. She could be immune to nullify and still take the damage from mystics bursts

    Look at Karolina. Her stun cannot have its duration decreased by tech champions. Now shrugs and duration reducing is not a tech ability(even though there is 1 tech who does that). But it is still there due to the class wheel. So she can do her rotation against techs regardless of the nodes
  • NONYABIZZNONYABIZZ Member Posts: 956 ★★★★
    edited June 4
    CMM was released in 2019. Then, having her take that damage from mystics was valid as the game didn't really care about IGNORING CLASS RELATIONSHIPS AS IT DOES NOW. So it was a way to show how she was vulnerable to mystic champs (as mystic > cosmic).

    I would buff her by coping a few things from karolinas kit such as the glance on parries, she gains 3 charges per parry. 5 from techs or parrying special attacks. Meaning a total of 9 parries against non techs (exc sp attack parries). It is definitely fair since she does not need to throw sp1 and is a total sp2 and raw damage nuke. This parry will definitely stop her from taking fights in 20s and keep her in the consistent 35 -50 second range depending on the meta. Still she would be a very strong attacker. I would take away the energy damage ramp up mechanic as that's a 19 second onslaught fight right there.
    I would also give her some modern cosmic utility like true accuracy or undermine, she may also be able to parry non contacts(WHILE IN BINARY) so she can take zola.
    Also binary mode lasts as long as it does with the fury synergy (this will be inputted into her base kit) so she would actually be good in questing and war instead of just battlegrounds cos binary mode is very difficult to keep up especially with the difficult nodes we get these days.

    That's how I would tune her up.
  • Herbal_TaxmanHerbal_Taxman Member Posts: 2,275 ★★★★★
    Yes (mention your ideas)
    I think all champs that are explicitly designed for a longer ramp should have a head start on their charges in BG. Would you believe it, this is exactly what they did for serpent.

    Plus, this was a chase champ that they made a huge deal out of. Give her a boost so she stays relevant after players spent months to get the champ.
  • PT_99PT_99 Member Posts: 6,182 ★★★★★
    No.
    She's good against Onslaught and any other energy damage dealers plus also good whenever there's shock debuff metas, so she's fine.

    I got her in deck regularly
  • spidyjedi84spidyjedi84 Member Posts: 444 ★★★
    PT_99 said:

    She's good against Onslaught and any other energy damage dealers plus also good whenever there's shock debuff metas, so she's fine.

    I got her in deck regularly

    Same. If people don't know what she's good against, they will learn the hard way when I take an easy win.
  • EdisonLawEdisonLaw Member Posts: 10,593 ★★★★★
    Yes (mention your ideas)
    I wish she could start with like 10 charges in BGs. Parrying a lot without energy damage causes block damage so the bulwark is a nice suggestion
  • TerminatrixTerminatrix Member Posts: 3,956 ★★★★★
    edited June 4
    NONYABIZZ said:

    CMM was released in 2019. Then, having her take that damage from mystics was valid as the game didn't really care about IGNORING CLASS RELATIONSHIPS AS IT DOES NOW. So it was a way to show how she was vulnerable to mystic champs (as mystic > cosmic).

    I would buff her by coping a few things from karolinas kit such as the glance on parries, she gains 3 charges per parry. 5 from techs or parrying special attacks. Meaning a total of 9 parries against non techs (exc sp attack parries). It is definitely fair since she does not need to throw sp1 and is a total sp2 and raw damage nuke. This parry will definitely stop her from taking fights in 20s and keep her in the consistent 35 -50 second range depending on the meta. Still she would be a very strong attacker. I would take away the energy damage ramp up mechanic as that's a 19 second onslaught fight right there.
    I would also give her some modern cosmic utility like true accuracy or undermine, she may also be able to parry non contacts(WHILE IN BINARY) so she can take zola.
    Also binary mode lasts as long as it does with the fury synergy (this will be inputted into her base kit) so she would actually be good in questing and war instead of just battlegrounds cos binary mode is very difficult to keep up especially with the difficult nodes we get these days.

    That's how I would tune her up.

    🤔

    So you're saying remove her energy damage ramp up that often gets her 20 second KO's against Onslaught, and replace it with something that will make her take longer to KO a champ?? Longer but consistent? So a consistent KO time range is what you prefer?

    I like the modern cosmic utility suggestion. Her Sp 1 has a good one, just not as needed and not a huge damage dealer.
  • TerminatrixTerminatrix Member Posts: 3,956 ★★★★★
    EdisonLaw said:

    I wish she could start with like 10 charges in BGs. Parrying a lot without energy damage causes block damage so the bulwark is a nice suggestion

    Starting BGs with 10 charges has been the most popular suggestion by a lot of players
  • GroundedWisdomGroundedWisdom Member Posts: 37,386 ★★★★★
    No.
    I wouldn't say she's on the short list. She's still completely viable.
  • Ansh_AAnsh_A Member Posts: 698 ★★★
    No.
    If they are going to buff another champion that is in the mid tiers of most tier lists, we need someone in the skill class. Preferably one who is already a 7* or soon to be released as one.

    That 7* skill roster is feeling limited right now.
  • WednesdayLengthWednesdayLength Member Posts: 3,021 ★★★★★
    Terminatrix said:

    WednesdayLength said:

    Not every character needs to be buffed 🥲 was everyone not going on about how she still holds up and is great for bgs but that long ago?

    They do as the game changes. And I'm not asking for a complete overhaul, just a few kit changes for BGs.

    I'm not sure. You got the link to that post? Yes she's still solid against the right defender, but that doesn't mean there's no room for improvement as the game changes. That has also been part of the feedback for her.
    That post is just your comment history.

    My point is that the time and resources on making her slightly better in one game mode would be way better spent on characters that aren't useable at all right now.
  • Bigron79Bigron79 Member Posts: 68 ★
    Yes (mention your ideas)
    I voted yes just for te simple fact of her not being able to handle mystic energy in the game vs being able to in the comic books. That just seems like it should be in affect in the game as well. Starting with a min of 10 binary charges would be real damn helpful in BGs
  • ChobblyChobbly Member Posts: 1,082 ★★★★
    Not sure.
    I voted 'Not sure' as to me she's pretty balanced as she is. She's pretty good as a 7* R3 - not overpowered generally but in certain use cases she really shines. I'm really liking running CMM against Onslaught at the moment.

    If you can get me a DDHK buff @Terminatrix I'll happily change my vote though :D
  • MagrailothosMagrailothos Member Posts: 6,340 ★★★★★
    No.
    Terminatrix said:

    summerdeer said:

    the one thing bad about her is how the game apparently says she cant handle mystic energy so she takes extra damage like what

    Yeah I found that very perplexing when Kabam introduced her, and even questioned it before. Like how is a new champ nerfed from the start? lol.
    Vox says "Hi"..



    Being vulnerable to magic is a common weakness in the comics. Particularly for otherwise very powerful characters.

    Thanos, whilst wearing the Infinity Gauntlet, was still susceptible to Dr Strange's magic.

    Magic was the key to defeating Phoenix in Avengers Vs X-Men

    Heck, even Superman (yes, DC) is extremely susceptible to magic.

    She's got a weakness; which (in game) permits her to more powerful in other areas, without being unbalanced.

    Take the weakness away, and what else does she have to lose, to balance it?
  • TerminatrixTerminatrix Member Posts: 3,956 ★★★★★
    Bigron79 said:

    I voted yes just for te simple fact of her not being able to handle mystic energy in the game vs being able to in the comic books. That just seems like it should be in affect in the game as well. Starting with a min of 10 binary charges would be real damn helpful in BGs

    Exactly. Starting with 10 charges in BGs has been the most desired tune up that I've seen from players.

  • TerminatrixTerminatrix Member Posts: 3,956 ★★★★★
    Herbal_Taxman said:

    I think all champs that are explicitly designed for a longer ramp should have a head start on their charges in BG. Would you believe it, this is exactly what they did for serpent.

    Plus, this was a chase champ that they made a huge deal out of. Give her a boost so she stays relevant after players spent months to get the champ.

    Right! Good point. @Herbal_Taxman If they did it for Serpent, they can do it for her also.
  • TerminatrixTerminatrix Member Posts: 3,956 ★★★★★
    edited June 5
    Chobbly said:

    I voted 'Not sure' as to me she's pretty balanced as she is. She's pretty good as a 7* R3 - not overpowered generally but in certain use cases she really shines. I'm really liking running CMM against Onslaught at the moment.

    If you can get me a DDHK buff @Terminatrix I'll happily change my vote though :D

    Her being a solid answer to Onslaught is good, but not every defender is going to be Onslaught. There is still a desire from quite a few players to have her start BGs with at least 10 charges in general. If a ramp up headstart was given to Serpent (who is a ramp up champ), let's do the same for her.

    And UMMM...about that DDHK...😅
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