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It's almost like AI 2.0 isn't what we need right now...
Revamping the AI isn’t what we need now?

The operative phrase being “right now”. AI 2.0 is a great long term goal but immediate fixes are necessary.

I never suggested they shouldn’t work on AI 2.0 just that they could and should do both. I see the same people who derailed that thread now shocked by this stuff lol.

EgyptOverseer

Anyone else noticed the AI is now more prone to dash back if it hits your block once?

EgyptOverseer

It's particularly noticeable on champs that have miss or untouchable, where the AI dashes in, misses, and immediately dashes back.

Ragnaruk5178

I haven’t been able to instantly intercept champs at the start of bgs match anymore. Getting parried by ebony maw at the start of the match was so embarrassing 🤦

DONZALOOG1234

why has no kabamers explained how Enchantress rolled triple dex or wtv?

BigBlueOx

Can we talk about its latest trick? The AI can now stop its dash on command, intentionally whiff not where I might dex or side step but literally right in front of my parry or block attempt and whiff on command.

Nothing quite like watching the AI purposefully whiff infront of me to avoid getting partied then faster than light speed follow up with a light to my face.

SirGamesBond

Can we talk about its latest trick? The AI can now stop its dash on command, intentionally whiff not where I might dex or side step but literally right in front of my parry or block attempt and whiff on command.

Nothing quite like watching the AI purposefully whiff infront of me to avoid getting partied then faster than light speed follow up with a light to my face.

I want to see it too. Any time you see it in Youtube or in your own rare recording do let us know. I faced some weired instances too.

TotemCorruption

Welp, I guess we’re playing against real people now.

Low-key that's what it feels like.
Any competitive match the AI now forces you to bring it or risk death.
Whether that's a good thing or a bad thing I guess depends on what each player wants from this game.

BigBlueOx

Can we talk about its latest trick? The AI can now stop its dash on command, intentionally whiff not where I might dex or side step but literally right in front of my parry or block attempt and whiff on command.

Nothing quite like watching the AI purposefully whiff infront of me to avoid getting partied then faster than light speed follow up with a light to my face.
I want to see it too. Any time you see it in Youtube or in your own rare recording do let us know. I faced some weired instances too.

I’ll try and be more mindful of recording. Sadly with the iPhone heating issue it’s a risky thing to do.

Definitely will share if I find a YouTube clip

Searmenis

Next step is the defender stopping in the middle of the fight, to drink a few healing potions.

Java_Junkie

Next step is the defender stopping in the middle of the fight, to drink a few healing potions.

DO NOT encourage them.

Spartakan

And in top of that for example i started exploring act 8 scytalis just wont use sp 2 just spamming sp 1 or cerastes wont block its so annoying, and for nodes when ai have to take some action for me to gain benefit they simply wont do it no matter what i do

Shroud1969

I've noticed the AI can now start a dash and then stop then restart the dash. In addition to the "stutter step" that they do that we can't. They can also evade backwards without dexterity.

Koukentsu

I've noticed the AI can now start a dash and then stop then restart the dash. In addition to the "stutter step" that they do that we can't. They can also evade backwards without dexterity.

When you say that the ai starts a dash are you referring to a medium attack? I've never seen the ai cancel their medium attack before.

Kingering_King

Gosting

I can't remember a time when I laughed this much in a long time, thank you my friend.
😂

Bugmat78

And you just know she'll be throwing that sp1 right after that perfect dex

EgyptOverseer

So anyone noticed since this outrage the AI refusing to throw a heavy into your block? Every fight where I need the opponent to throw a heavy he just does multiple full combos into my block. This is especially game breaking for Enchantress fights, which are basically a guaranteed loss if she gets that spell.

PT_99

Anyone else noticed the AI is now more prone to dash back if it hits your block once?

I hate this new thing AI learnt now,
"Hit block 4 times back away then hold block"

So anyone noticed since this outrage the AI refusing to throw a heavy into your block? Every fight where I need the opponent to throw a heavy he just does multiple full combos into my block. This is especially game breaking for Enchantress fights, which are basically a guaranteed loss if she gets that spell.

I've noticed this happening from past 2 weeks,
AI now does 4 hits into block, back away, immediately dash into 4 hits and repeat.

For fun, I threw BG round to see how much of hits AI will throw before using heavy.
13, disgusting.

But hey guys, we never touched AI 🤣
AI 2.0 is coming tho, surely.

Asher1_1

""It's working as intended "" - that's why no reply from kabam

EgyptOverseer

Anyone else noticed the AI is now more prone to dash back if it hits your block once?
I hate this new thing AI learnt now,
"Hit block 4 times back away then hold block"
So anyone noticed since this outrage the AI refusing to throw a heavy into your block? Every fight where I need the opponent to throw a heavy he just does multiple full combos into my block. This is especially game breaking for Enchantress fights, which are basically a guaranteed loss if she gets that spell.
I've noticed this happening from past 2 weeks,
AI now does 4 hits into block, back away, immediately dash into 4 hits and repeat.

For fun, I threw BG round to see how much of hits AI will throw before using heavy.
13, disgusting.

But hey guys, we never touched AI 🤣
AI 2.0 is coming tho, surely.

Good to know I am not imagining things. Same experience for me.

EgyptOverseer

Further info to add.

The engine is listening to screen taps before the fight starts. As a test, I repeatedly tapped the right side of the screen when loading a battle for an instant light attack, and on every fight I did this the AI immediately dashed back at the fight start and held block.

Average_Desi

Further info to add.

The engine is listening to screen taps before the fight starts. As a test, I repeatedly tapped the right side of the screen when loading a battle for an instant light attack, and on every fight I did this the AI immediately dashed back at the fight start and held block.

JackTheSnack

And you just know she'll be throwing that sp1 right after that perfect dex

This one gets me every time 🤣🤣

JackTheSnack

And you just know she'll be throwing that sp1 right after that perfect dex

That’s actually almost comedic it’s so out of pocket

Toyota_2015

I thought it was said that the AI doesn’t know what tools it has access to in regards to things like Parry and Dexterity, and that if it ever happens, it happens on accident. This is a little crazy for an accident…

Average_Desi

I thought it was said that the AI doesn’t know what tools it has access to in regards to things like Parry and Dexterity, and that if it ever happens, it happens on accident. This is a little crazy for an accident…

Crazy? Yes. Not impossible.

HungaryHippo

I thought it was said that the AI doesn’t know what tools it has access to in regards to things like Parry and Dexterity, and that if it ever happens, it happens on accident. This is a little crazy for an accident…

This is not crazy at all in fact it's the exact situation I wrote about in my post that got closed.

If you have a frame perfect button masher that can react in 1f then it's obvious it should be able to dex any kind of special in the game (other than the ones that need bespoke timing like an early dex).

This is why I said the AI shouldn't be reacting to things in 1f (obvious if you think about it for a few seconds)...

Toyota_2015

I thought it was said that the AI doesn’t know what tools it has access to in regards to things like Parry and Dexterity, and that if it ever happens, it happens on accident. This is a little crazy for an accident…

This is not crazy at all in fact it's the exact situation I wrote about in my post that got closed.

If you have a frame perfect button masher that can react in 1f then it's obvious it should be able to dex any kind of special in the game (other than the ones that need bespoke timing like an early dex).

This is why I said the AI shouldn't be reacting to things in 1f (obvious if you think about it for a few seconds)...

This isn’t about the AI having good frames, though. The AI straight up doesn’t know that it has dexterity, so even if it has good frames it can’t use those frames to dex attacks on purpose. The AI here just happened to dash back three times in a row with the perfect timing required to dex the attack.

Taking into account that the AI doesn’t know about dexterity, the winning move in the mind of the AI for all three hits of the special attack would’ve been to block. All three of those dashes would’ve been blunders and the AI would’ve gotten hit, but since this is a fight against a player’s champion and not a quest fight, the AI happens to have dexterity in this case.