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EgyptOverseerEgyptOverseer Member Posts: 514 ★★★
edited June 5 in General Discussion
Can the masterminds here explain to me these fights?

My brain is too small, unfortunately.






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  • Shamir51Shamir51 Member Posts: 1,222 ★★★★
    What has you confused exactly? Looks ok.

    Remember that blocked hits count as hits received. Hitting into Red Skull's block while he has armour buffs deals damage.

    As for the Bishop fight, he's taken blocked hits to build prowess and gone hame.
  • EgyptOverseerEgyptOverseer Member Posts: 514 ★★★
    edited June 5
    There was also another fight, but that one at least made some sense to me with the stings, although again the final health was not easy to understand.



    In this case the total hits taken would not be possible as all blocked hits because of Adam's sovereignty kicking in after the second hit into block. He could technically wait it out, but the fight was too quick for that.
  • Beerus2StrongBeerus2Strong Member Posts: 295 ★★
    EgyptOverseer said:

    Shamir51 said:

    What has you confused exactly? Looks ok.

    Remember that blocked hits count as hits received. Hitting into Red Skull's block while he has armour buffs deals damage.

    As for the Bishop fight, he's taken blocked hits to build prowess and gone hame.

    I sort of get that, but those numbers above 100% on the Red Skull fight don't make sense, and his health also doesn't make sense to me. Remember he is unduped, so he would lose all his armour ups very quickly with blocked hits with no easy means to get more (one per 10 hits on the combo) and without armour, those neuros would have to do a lot more damage than that. It's almost as if the game recorded a negative amount of neuro damage by a factor of 6, which would explain the numbers totalling way above the max 100%.
    This power gain meta would allow Skull to gain armours a lot easier actually since he gains 1 on each bar of power either champion fills.

    The every 10th hit on the combo meter part is his sig ability.
  • Beerus2StrongBeerus2Strong Member Posts: 295 ★★
    Still does seem a bit off though
  • EmomikeEmomike Member Posts: 284 ★★
    If the stats we are seeing on our end are correct than 100% a modder. The bishop fight alone is mind boggling 54 hit/blocked hits and what throws a sp2? All that with only 5 holits landed? Yeah OK!!!! Sad part of it's a cheater it'll probably be week 3 into the season before anything is done about it. Just report and move on is all you can do. FYI since you didn't block out the name people probably gonna roast you.
  • EmomikeEmomike Member Posts: 284 ★★
    Shamir51 said:

    What has you confused exactly? Looks ok.

    Remember that blocked hits count as hits received. Hitting into Red Skull's block while he has armour buffs deals damage.

    As for the Bishop fight, he's taken blocked hits to build prowess and gone hame.

    Went ham in 5 hits??????? 54 hits to the block and he built what a sp2. Nothing looks ok in these fights. Red sulk is metal so not removing those neuros.
  • willrun4adonutwillrun4adonut Member Posts: 6,752 ★★★★★
    For the red skull fight, I also don't know where the damage would come from so quickly. It wouldn't be from his sp2 shocks at all since Onslaught heals from shocks (150% reduced potency). Unless I don't know my Onslaught and Red Skull kits well.
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  • Average_DesiAverage_Desi Member Posts: 2,703 ★★★★★
    Mods. Report
  • captain_rogerscaptain_rogers Member Posts: 13,311 ★★★★★
    A clever mod
  • Drago_von_DragoDrago_von_Drago Member Posts: 1,044 ★★★★
    I’ve never seen percentages add up to over 100%, let alone individual percentages being over 100%. Is that common? Seems like there were numbers the scoring system didn’t know what to do with.
  • EgyptOverseerEgyptOverseer Member Posts: 514 ★★★
    edited June 5
    Beerus2Strong said:

    EgyptOverseer said:

    Shamir51 said:

    What has you confused exactly? Looks ok.

    Remember that blocked hits count as hits received. Hitting into Red Skull's block while he has armour buffs deals damage.

    As for the Bishop fight, he's taken blocked hits to build prowess and gone hame.

    I sort of get that, but those numbers above 100% on the Red Skull fight don't make sense, and his health also doesn't make sense to me. Remember he is unduped, so he would lose all his armour ups very quickly with blocked hits with no easy means to get more (one per 10 hits on the combo) and without armour, those neuros would have to do a lot more damage than that. It's almost as if the game recorded a negative amount of neuro damage by a factor of 6, which would explain the numbers totalling way above the max 100%.
    This power gain meta would allow Skull to gain armours a lot easier actually since he gains 1 on each bar of power either champion fills.

    The every 10th hit on the combo meter part is his sig ability.
    Thank you kind sir. That would explain the armours not falling off, but looking at the time taken and how long OS specials take, the only remotely viable tactic that would explain this would be letting him get to SP3 and somehow managing to get him bouncing between SP3 and SP2 without throwing any specials and constantly having him attack your block. I haven't encountered an AI that would behave like that. The second he would let go of block OS would throw a special, not to mention that he would be doing this deep in a corner with OS spamming heavies too.
  • JackTheSnackJackTheSnack Member Posts: 2,021 ★★★★
    This is most def cheating I would say but it’s against forum rules to put usernames. Just report
  • EgyptOverseerEgyptOverseer Member Posts: 514 ★★★
    JackTheSnack said:

    This is most def cheating I would say but it’s against forum rules to put usernames. Just report

    I can remove the usernames if it's against the forum rules. I was merely hoping someone understood how these interactions worked so I could learn to replicate them.
  • EgyptOverseerEgyptOverseer Member Posts: 514 ★★★
    edited June 5
    Oops, can't edit the posts. Oh well. Here is hoping it's not cheating and I am just not using those champs correctly in those matchups.
  • Ayden_noah1Ayden_noah1 Member Posts: 2,365 ★★★★★
    Modders are getting better at trying to hide what they are doing. Kabam needs a way to detect since they aren't doing the 10 sec kills anymore. Not sure what Kabam can do about it since it's not an obvious enough mod until you dig deep into the stats page. They need to get rid of all these mods accounts.
  • KillerMKillerM Member Posts: 204 ★★★
    Since when does redskull degenaration damage 🤣🤣
  • EmomikeEmomike Member Posts: 284 ★★
    KillerM said:

    Since when does redskull degenaration damage 🤣🤣

    Cause he took onslaught sp2 to the face. It's obviously a damage reduction mod
  • EmomikeEmomike Member Posts: 284 ★★
    NerfSerpentPlsTY said:

    Shamir51 said:

    What has you confused exactly? Looks ok.

    Remember that blocked hits count as hits received. Hitting into Red Skull's block while he has armour buffs deals damage.

    As for the Bishop fight, he's taken blocked hits to build prowess and gone hame.

    I could mod and finish a fight in 8 seconds and you'd probably be amazed at how skilled I am. What exactly has you so assured that its not a modder? Like not a single stat on the screen seems off to you? How are we supposed to judge if a fight is legit if not by the stats?

    Even assuming the numbers to be bugged, he takes degeneration and recoil damage. Let's assume that he runs recoil without double edge and liquid courage which is totally understandable! How he takes energy burst damage with bishop is another conundrum. I'm not even questioning the numbers which are indeed sometimes false but I'm astonished by the fact that these "look ok" to you and that you're struggling to understand what is thought to be wrong in the screenshots.

    Maybe I'm just losing my mind, it hasn't been the same since the release of a certain ugly old man with an oversized hammer.


    Pls kabam.
    I would guess the energy damage was Chavez sp2 to the face
  • DeaconDeacon Member Posts: 4,420 ★★★★★
    i still just don't get why people even bother cheating in this game. there's zero monetary gain and if it's just about "bragging" or something then even more dumb to do because who cares that you won a fight on a mobile game ... how incredibly sad people cheat ... and yes I've faced quite a few modders in BGs .. they're impossible not to come across.
  • EgyptOverseerEgyptOverseer Member Posts: 514 ★★★
    edited June 5
    Emomike said:

    NerfSerpentPlsTY said:

    Shamir51 said:

    What has you confused exactly? Looks ok.

    Remember that blocked hits count as hits received. Hitting into Red Skull's block while he has armour buffs deals damage.

    As for the Bishop fight, he's taken blocked hits to build prowess and gone hame.

    I could mod and finish a fight in 8 seconds and you'd probably be amazed at how skilled I am. What exactly has you so assured that its not a modder? Like not a single stat on the screen seems off to you? How are we supposed to judge if a fight is legit if not by the stats?

    Even assuming the numbers to be bugged, he takes degeneration and recoil damage. Let's assume that he runs recoil without double edge and liquid courage which is totally understandable! How he takes energy burst damage with bishop is another conundrum. I'm not even questioning the numbers which are indeed sometimes false but I'm astonished by the fact that these "look ok" to you and that you're struggling to understand what is thought to be wrong in the screenshots.

    Maybe I'm just losing my mind, it hasn't been the same since the release of a certain ugly old man with an oversized hammer.


    Pls kabam.
    I would guess the energy damage was Chavez sp2 to the face
    The interesting part is that if that was the energy damage that means she had at least one dark dimension, when Chavez deals 40% of energy damage back so if the SP2 was a one shot, he should have taken 40% of her boosted HP as damage, right?
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