Bann error, check your system

Atluzmax

They should review their banning system. I have never used third-party software and I was banned.

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ahmynuts

Good

Pikolu

That's what they all say

Trafalgarwar96

There are too much people that say the same thing. Maybe there is really a bug with this anti cheat system?

BringPopcorn

I love fridays

DNA3000

Every time there is a large ban wave we get a burst of these. It doesn't mean there's anything wrong with the system; we had a similar burst after the first bunch of Necropolis related bans went out.

Without knowing precisely how they are detecting and banning the latest stuff I can't vouch for its accuracy, however, I can say the overwhelming trend is for Kabam to be spot on with bans outside of a couple of very narrow corner cases in recent years. So narrow in fact I can count them on one hand.

TotemCorruption

It's impossible to know, because we observers don't have access either to what Kabam sees or what the banned players have done or not done.
But Kabam did use new software to catch thousands of cheaters today, so should we be surprised if a bunch of people are going to claim today that they were unfairly banned?
No, that is exactly what would happen based on those facts.

TotemCorruption

Can you shed any light on this part of the announcement? " Another couple thousand accounts have received warnings for potential infractions, and if you received this warning know that your account will have more scrutiny on it moving forward. If you are in fact using an illegitimate client, now is the time to stop."
There is a gray area where Kabam can't tell if someone is cheating or not?

Wakandas_Finest

The announcement said they banned accounts that are using a version of the game that was not downloaded via apple, google, or Kabam as these are the only legitimate sources for the app

ahmynuts

Which just the posts today in the past few hours would more than double so I doubt its kabams fault

DNA3000

I don't know but I can guess. The announcement essentially says they have deployed new ways to detect modded game clients. If I had to guess, I suspect anyone found using a modded game client and has actually been detected exhibiting remotely sus behavior (i.e. cheated in any way) has probably been banned. Anyone detected using a modded or otherwise unauthorized game client that hasn't actually been detected cheating with it yet has been given warnings and put on a watch list.

This is a guess. I have no direct knowledge of the details of this particular announced ban wave.

Why show any mercy at all? Maybe Kabam decided there might be a lot of players who for whatever reason are using side loaded clients but may not realize these side loaded clients are not just coming from an unauthorized site but also have been modded. There have been a few instances like that recently where players have been discovered running copies of the game from unauthorized download sites. Maybe they want to cut those guys some slack if they were just complete idiots and not actual cheaters.

Make no mistake: if you are downloading this game from an unauthorized source and have no way to absolutely verify the provenance of it, you are a complete idiot. Anyone who does that deserves to have their game account vaporized, and is explicitly stated grounds for doing so. Any warning they get is a gift.

The_Lokí

2 of our alliance members banned and I'm 100% sure they haven't used any mods. One of them hasn't completed Necro or any endgame content. He has an average account. If it's a bug this will cost us in war. It's impossible to win the war with 28 players.

mikemai2awesome

i just got banned and i never used any third party software

Atluzmax

I updated the game on the Google Play Store as I always have.

Atluzmax

I updated the game on the Google Play Store as I always have.

ALEKZÅNDER_ØNË

What the flying "F" is wrong with this game???, I got banned for no reason whatsoever, I've never used third party software, and KABAM is also not allowing me to submit a ticket, this is so unacceptable and frustrating. Please fix this ASAP.

emceehao

also got banned for no reason. i have Huawei and Xiaomi as phones, are these triggering the system?

Demonzfyre

Updating it through google play isn't what caused it, it's where you downloaded it from.

Atluzmax

Xiaomi Redmi 12

Atluzmax

installed from google play store

Atluzmax

and you are the complete idiot, moron

Ironside47

I was today old when I found out it was even possible to download from a third-party site.

I’m guessing this is the only way to cheat? Kind of surprised that it’s taken this long to be able to detect it but the impact should be massively positive.

ahmynuts

Good on you for calling yourself out

Savage123456789

The annoying part about all this is that there are too many posts and Crashed won't waste his time replying to all of them

. Wished we had just a couple of people, get the entertainment rolling for the weekend, then we get the Crashed hammer on Monday

TotemCorruption

More than 10,000 accounts were banned today.
I think it's to be expected that there are so many threads and posts.
And I have no idea whether all the bans were valid or not.
But I do know that if you go to an arraignment court anywhere in the country, every defendant will swear to you that they're innocent.
Cheaters lie; that's their whole personality.

Mr_Nandan

What !! 😮
I'm not using any kind of 3rd party software. Then why kabam suspended my account? Why? It's a random selection?

Abspain101

Lol calling yourself an idiot moron

JediJones77

You know who else says they didn't do anything wrong? Innocent people.

_Pez_

I have no idea whether these people are innocent or not, I only know i haven't been banned and use the play store, but I don't really have 100% confidence in kabams coding prowess and judgement so a few points/thoughts.

1) if they are confident in technology to detect this, why not as a first step just prevent any account the system is flagging from logging in using this rather than straight ban. Then at least someone can stream a video of them with a fresh play store install and still get the block (if they insist they are innocent)

2) would genuine cheating software probably not have a way of masking its true source

3) why do this on a Friday, feels weird to drop it and then not be able to be as responsive the next couple of days in case there was a mistake (not that I know if there has been).

TotemCorruption

Exactly. Both criminals and innocent people claim they're innocent. So these threads and posts claiming innocence are just noise.

DNA3000

Because if you just block people who cheat from cheating, they'll just keep trying until they figure out a way around the blocks. All security is based on this principle: you deploy a triad of prevention, detection, and response. Bank vaults, for example, are not designed to keep criminals out. They are designed to keep criminals out just long enough for the police to arrive and arrest them.

People using unauthorized clients aren't all necessarily cheating, but they pose the same threat as emulators. If you allow people to use modified or otherwise unauthorized clients, you can't trust what they say. Which means your ability to detect cheaters drops substantially. You have to prevent people from using such tools, and you can't let them keep trying until they get it right.