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(BGs) The player that drafts first places first???

LilpoopscoopLilpoopscoop Member Posts: 7
It's actually crazy to me someone *hasn't* mentioned this yet. I mean, I remember raging about this once or twice but it feels like this gets forgotten like all the time. Perhaps this problem wasn't talked about in the earlier seasons because only just now have Kabam started pushing out the most poorly designed unfun stall champions of all time versus when we'd get them maybe once a year. The recent champion releases have made this gamemode so much worse than any problem this game has ever had. At this point. either introduce blacklists or release the format change already because this is extremely unplayable.

Like the player that drafts first is already objectively at a massive disadvantage. The fact that the other summoner can draft a serpent, enchantress, Yelena, Sentinel, or Dark Phoenix without the ability to answer it on my end just sucks bigly. I cannot account for and draft a counter to every possible defender they might pull as that last 7th champion and it makes counter drafting miserable and extremely unfun because you have to somehow draft counters for every champion that *might* show up in those last 3; you have to *assume* that they will indeed pull each one or you just immediately lose a round if they do.

***That's*** just the problem with drafting first, but it sucks and someone has to, obviously. (sans blind drafting of course but that would only exacerbate the problems mentioned threefold) (And again, **this problem only exists because of the miserable boring defenders introduced that not a single soul enjoys fighting**. I genuinely have no idea how we went from Arcade and Onslaught to Dark Phoenix and Yelena. Do the kabam devs hate skill expression? Becuase the last 6 defenders across the last 6 months seem to imply that.

As a cherry on top, the player who has to draft first also??? places first??? Why??? This means that in the final round, they place first as well, and the player who places first is much more susceptible to getting trapped. It's genuinely so punishing to draft first, you start with such a disadvantage for no reason. If I have to draft first, at least allow me to place second.

And introduce a damn blacklist, fighting 70x serpents/yelenas/Enchantresses/Zolas every single season makes the gamemode stale and boring.

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  • SirGamesBondSirGamesBond Member Posts: 8,234 ★★★★★
    I think team are aware on the advantages of drafting and placing.
    I thought they would have changed something by now.
    Maybe they will....
    Someday.
  • CheeseMaster482CheeseMaster482 Member Posts: 377 ★★★
    It's obvious kabam doesn't even care about BGs. How can there be a ranked mode in the game yet your rank doesn't even show up on your profile? Not even a PFP or title. The only purpose of BGs is to be a place where spenders can justify dropping thousands every year. Imagine spending thousands on the game and ending up in uru 😂, that's probably why ranks aren't shown on profiles. I know I would definitely clown on a dude like that.
  • RevHeresyRevHeresy Member Posts: 244
    Aren’t good players playing in the same disadvantaged scenario? What separates us baddies from the good players?
  • captain_rogerscaptain_rogers Member Posts: 13,664 ★★★★★
    It is not a big deal, with a slightly better roster and skill you can bypass it. and second drafting rarely gives advantage not every time lol
  • Toproller89Toproller89 Member Posts: 2,264 ★★★★★
    I think the draft should be random.

    Just go into the matches with the game picking the defenders and attackers for the players, and you don’t know until the fight starts
  • PT_99PT_99 Member Posts: 6,394 ★★★★★
    The player who bans the heroes first gets to draft last?

    How hard is that? Rewarding skill and risk takers instead of, ughhh random ughhh RNG.
  • WednesdayLengthWednesdayLength Member Posts: 3,372 ★★★★★

    I think the draft should be random.

    Just go into the matches with the game picking the defenders and attackers for the players, and you don’t know until the fight starts

    That sounds absolutely horrendous
  • WednesdayLengthWednesdayLength Member Posts: 3,372 ★★★★★
    PT_99 said:

    The player who bans the heroes first gets to draft last?

    How hard is that? Rewarding skill and risk takers instead of, ughhh random ughhh RNG.

    You mean rewarding faster phones
  • PT_99PT_99 Member Posts: 6,394 ★★★★★

    PT_99 said:

    The player who bans the heroes first gets to draft last?

    How hard is that? Rewarding skill and risk takers instead of, ughhh random ughhh RNG.

    You mean rewarding faster phones
    Phone this
    Phone that, not everyone own Samsung ultra or whatever the new number iPhone is.

    Avg BG matches have avg devices.
  • Rayven5220Rayven5220 Member Posts: 3,036 ★★★★★

    PT_99 said:

    The player who bans the heroes first gets to draft last?

    How hard is that? Rewarding skill and risk takers instead of, ughhh random ughhh RNG.

    You mean rewarding faster phones
    Wth does a faster phone have to do with bg's? Or this topic, at all?
  • MagicBentonMagicBenton Member Posts: 303 ★★★

    It's actually crazy to me someone *hasn't* mentioned this yet. I mean, I remember raging about this once or twice but it feels like this gets forgotten like all the time. Perhaps this problem wasn't talked about in the earlier seasons because only just now have Kabam started pushing out the most poorly designed unfun stall champions of all time versus when we'd get them maybe once a year. The recent champion releases have made this gamemode so much worse than any problem this game has ever had. At this point. either introduce blacklists or release the format change already because this is extremely unplayable.

    Like the player that drafts first is already objectively at a massive disadvantage. The fact that the other summoner can draft a serpent, enchantress, Yelena, Sentinel, or Dark Phoenix without the ability to answer it on my end just sucks bigly. I cannot account for and draft a counter to every possible defender they might pull as that last 7th champion and it makes counter drafting miserable and extremely unfun because you have to somehow draft counters for every champion that *might* show up in those last 3; you have to *assume* that they will indeed pull each one or you just immediately lose a round if they do.

    ***That's*** just the problem with drafting first, but it sucks and someone has to, obviously. (sans blind drafting of course but that would only exacerbate the problems mentioned threefold) (And again, **this problem only exists because of the miserable boring defenders introduced that not a single soul enjoys fighting**. I genuinely have no idea how we went from Arcade and Onslaught to Dark Phoenix and Yelena. Do the kabam devs hate skill expression? Becuase the last 6 defenders across the last 6 months seem to imply that.

    As a cherry on top, the player who has to draft first also??? places first??? Why??? This means that in the final round, they place first as well, and the player who places first is much more susceptible to getting trapped. It's genuinely so punishing to draft first, you start with such a disadvantage for no reason. If I have to draft first, at least allow me to place second.

    And introduce a damn blacklist, fighting 70x serpents/yelenas/Enchantresses/Zolas every single season makes the gamemode stale and boring.

    It has been brought up when BGs first started, by several people. Kabam don't care.
  • WednesdayLengthWednesdayLength Member Posts: 3,372 ★★★★★
    PT_99 said:

    PT_99 said:

    The player who bans the heroes first gets to draft last?

    How hard is that? Rewarding skill and risk takers instead of, ughhh random ughhh RNG.

    You mean rewarding faster phones
    Phone this
    Phone that, not everyone own Samsung ultra or whatever the new number iPhone is.

    Avg BG matches have avg devices.
    My point is that basing anything off of how quickly people ban is not some perfect solution
  • WednesdayLengthWednesdayLength Member Posts: 3,372 ★★★★★

    PT_99 said:

    The player who bans the heroes first gets to draft last?

    How hard is that? Rewarding skill and risk takers instead of, ughhh random ughhh RNG.

    You mean rewarding faster phones
    Wth does a faster phone have to do with bg's? Or this topic, at all?
    The person i was replying to was talking about giving the first person who compete their bans first draft, im saying that that is also dependent on technical issues and WiFi which can add enough time to make it impossible to get first draft
  • Rayven5220Rayven5220 Member Posts: 3,036 ★★★★★

    PT_99 said:

    The player who bans the heroes first gets to draft last?

    How hard is that? Rewarding skill and risk takers instead of, ughhh random ughhh RNG.

    You mean rewarding faster phones
    Wth does a faster phone have to do with bg's? Or this topic, at all?
    The person i was replying to was talking about giving the first person who compete their bans first draft, im saying that that is also dependent on technical issues and WiFi which can add enough time to make it impossible to get first draft
    Ahhh, I see. That makes sense, haha
    I missed that. 😅
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