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Initial Thoughts On High Evolutionary?

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  • EdisonLawEdisonLaw Member Posts: 11,249 ★★★★★
    edited July 26
    I need to test him out myself when I get him from arena of course. But from what I've seen and watched, he is a decent champ, not bad, but not the greatest either. Definitely more of a defender but can do some stuff on attack
  • EdisonLawEdisonLaw Member Posts: 11,249 ★★★★★
    Ragnaruk5178 said:

    Not that hard on defense and not a great attacker, bit disappointed

    CCP has mixed reviews as well. Nick136 says he's gonna be forgotten on defense, while Vega says he'll be a great defender
  • The_OneThe_One Member Posts: 2,959 ★★★★
    I can only judge him on the highest difficulty I am able to play against him right now which is Cavalier EQ. Think he has 202k health which I appreciate isn't a lot compared to end game content but I haven't died against him a single time.
    He seems pretty straight forward
  • WednesdayLengthWednesdayLength Member Posts: 3,317 ★★★★★
    He's very much my kind of champion on offense and while I'm waiting for the dupe i think he's decent, but definitely not some game changing attacker. It's just a playstyle that I like which is a big part of why I like him, but he's not gonna nuke anything. I think he has potential to be a good counter for future champions with how many little pieces make up his kit and I'm probably gonna use him for a crucible fight next month but he's definitely not the greatest offensive champ.

    Without a counter he can be annoying on defense and I think that does make his defensive value stronger in that throwing him in a bg deck with other defenders will take up either a ban or a draft from the opponent just to deal with him, but beyond that I think he's probably not gonna be something that most people go for.

    I'd love to see him get a little tune up but I think if they're gonna rebalance anyone from this period it would be Maker. I'm not sure exactly when the current rebalance batch cut off is so it might be in the next one now which gives him a better chance of being buffed but we'll see. I'm enjoying him but there are a couple tweaks he could do with. I know he already has brbs loop but I think having a way to speed up the combo detonation would actually be super helpful since you could probably get another burst in before the field expires which would help him a lot
  • ItsClobberinTimeItsClobberinTime Member Posts: 6,666 ★★★★★
    NONYABIZZ said:

    Vega is an "as long as they're not obviously and objectively terrible, THEY'RE GREAT" typa guy. I came to that conclusion after his goofy ass champion rankings.

    Also I haven't watched any of these videos so I genuinely do not know anything about Evolutionary and can already see some people saying he isn't all that on defense which makes me a bit happy.

    He will only be a threat in metas where he can't be stunned, everywhere else he gets clapped you don't even need a counter but if you draft Okoye or Nick he dies very fast.
  • EdisonLawEdisonLaw Member Posts: 11,249 ★★★★★
    ItsClobberinTime said:

    https://youtu.be/pgkuygSH1yk?si=F79XvHcKXjE0gKXp

    Lmfao I don't know how anyone could call this good, it's basically Joaquin Torres but with defensive value, that's it.

    He may get a tune up like Joaquin, but he’s not quite as bad, in the damage rotation video for Joaquin he couldn’t even KO Mojo with a full rotation
  • ItsClobberinTimeItsClobberinTime Member Posts: 6,666 ★★★★★
    EdisonLaw said:

    ItsClobberinTime said:

    https://youtu.be/pgkuygSH1yk?si=F79XvHcKXjE0gKXp

    Lmfao I don't know how anyone could call this good, it's basically Joaquin Torres but with defensive value, that's it.

    He may get a tune up like Joaquin, but he’s not quite as bad, in the damage rotation video for Joaquin he couldn’t even KO Mojo with a full rotation
    His rotation is terrible regardless, and harder to pull off than Joaquin's so it evens out.
  • EdisonLawEdisonLaw Member Posts: 11,249 ★★★★★
    NONYABIZZ said:

    Polygon said:

    NONYABIZZ said:

    Vega is an "as long as they're not obviously and objectively terrible, THEY'RE GREAT" typa guy. I came to that conclusion after his goofy ass champion rankings.

    Also I haven't watched any of these videos so I genuinely do not know anything about Evolutionary and can already see some people saying he isn't all that on defense which makes me a bit happy.

    He has like 6+ people doing his tier lists for him but yet still always manages to have some of the worst rankings possible
    Did you see his latest top 30 champs in the game ranking???
    That **** just pissed me off so bad 😭😭

    Anyways, don't want this thread to become a means to target another person but damn that was the thing that turned me completely off his videos
    So who makes the best tier lists nowadays? @Lagacy ?
  • EdisonLawEdisonLaw Member Posts: 11,249 ★★★★★
    shield311 said:

    EdisonLaw said:

    NONYABIZZ said:

    Polygon said:

    NONYABIZZ said:

    Vega is an "as long as they're not obviously and objectively terrible, THEY'RE GREAT" typa guy. I came to that conclusion after his goofy ass champion rankings.

    Also I haven't watched any of these videos so I genuinely do not know anything about Evolutionary and can already see some people saying he isn't all that on defense which makes me a bit happy.

    He has like 6+ people doing his tier lists for him but yet still always manages to have some of the worst rankings possible
    Did you see his latest top 30 champs in the game ranking???
    That **** just pissed me off so bad 😭😭

    Anyways, don't want this thread to become a means to target another person but damn that was the thing that turned me completely off his videos
    So who makes the best tier lists nowadays? @Lagacy ?
    No, his tier lists are the worst I've seen in a while.

    Tier lists in this game mean nothing anyway whoever makes them orr thinks they hold any value is just wasting their time and thoughts on it.
    I think his tier lists make sense, i mean most people would agree that Deathless Thanos and FAM are among the best champs in game.

    I miss Seatin's lists though
  • EdisonLawEdisonLaw Member Posts: 11,249 ★★★★★
    ItsClobberinTime said:

    Mid defender, no idea why they call him 5/5 he already has a bunch of counters and isn't even in the featured crystal yet.

    Do you think he'll get a defensive tune up like Arcade?
  • ItsClobberinTimeItsClobberinTime Member Posts: 6,666 ★★★★★
    EdisonLaw said:

    ItsClobberinTime said:

    Mid defender, no idea why they call him 5/5 he already has a bunch of counters and isn't even in the featured crystal yet.

    Do you think he'll get a defensive tune up like Arcade?
    I wish but I don't even know what they could do to him defensively to make him 5/5 without turning him into another Serpent on accident because if that happens then there's zero chance he gets buffed offensively as well too. Right now he's definitely not a 5/5 defender it's more like a 4/5 but I'd rather he stays a 4/5 and gets a buff on attack than getting buffed on defense to match the 5/5 but keep him mid on attack.
  • EdisonLawEdisonLaw Member Posts: 11,249 ★★★★★
    ItsClobberinTime said:

    EdisonLaw said:

    ItsClobberinTime said:

    Mid defender, no idea why they call him 5/5 he already has a bunch of counters and isn't even in the featured crystal yet.

    Do you think he'll get a defensive tune up like Arcade?
    I wish but I don't even know what they could do to him defensively to make him 5/5 without turning him into another Serpent on accident because if that happens then there's zero chance he gets buffed offensively as well too. Right now he's definitely not a 5/5 defender it's more like a 4/5 but I'd rather he stays a 4/5 and gets a buff on attack than getting buffed on defense to match the 5/5 but keep him mid on attack.
    A 4/5 defender is better for sure, not every single defender needs to be 5/5. I think his combo detonation and evolutionary field should last a bit longer so you could fit multiple SP1 bursts. I still haven't tested him before
  • ItsClobberinTimeItsClobberinTime Member Posts: 6,666 ★★★★★
    EdisonLaw said:

    ItsClobberinTime said:

    EdisonLaw said:

    ItsClobberinTime said:

    Mid defender, no idea why they call him 5/5 he already has a bunch of counters and isn't even in the featured crystal yet.

    Do you think he'll get a defensive tune up like Arcade?
    I wish but I don't even know what they could do to him defensively to make him 5/5 without turning him into another Serpent on accident because if that happens then there's zero chance he gets buffed offensively as well too. Right now he's definitely not a 5/5 defender it's more like a 4/5 but I'd rather he stays a 4/5 and gets a buff on attack than getting buffed on defense to match the 5/5 but keep him mid on attack.
    A 4/5 defender is better for sure, not every single defender needs to be 5/5. I think his combo detonation and evolutionary field should last a bit longer so you could fit multiple SP1 bursts. I still haven't tested him before
    Actually the issue is it expires too slowly, they should've kept the combo detonation passive similar to BRB's shocks so you have full control of it and fan re apply it reliably as much as you want.
  • EdisonLawEdisonLaw Member Posts: 11,249 ★★★★★
    edited July 27
    ItsClobberinTime said:

    EdisonLaw said:

    ItsClobberinTime said:

    EdisonLaw said:

    ItsClobberinTime said:

    Mid defender, no idea why they call him 5/5 he already has a bunch of counters and isn't even in the featured crystal yet.

    Do you think he'll get a defensive tune up like Arcade?
    I wish but I don't even know what they could do to him defensively to make him 5/5 without turning him into another Serpent on accident because if that happens then there's zero chance he gets buffed offensively as well too. Right now he's definitely not a 5/5 defender it's more like a 4/5 but I'd rather he stays a 4/5 and gets a buff on attack than getting buffed on defense to match the 5/5 but keep him mid on attack.
    A 4/5 defender is better for sure, not every single defender needs to be 5/5. I think his combo detonation and evolutionary field should last a bit longer so you could fit multiple SP1 bursts. I still haven't tested him before
    Actually the issue is it expires too slowly, they should've kept the combo detonation passive similar to BRB's shocks so you have full control of it and fan re apply it reliably as much as you want.
    They probably made it expire slowly because if they made it too fast, on defense it would just detonate and you wouldn't have time to land 15 hits before the timer expires. I think on attack though, you should be able to control its duration compared to on defense.
  • EdisonLawEdisonLaw Member Posts: 11,249 ★★★★★
    Xleb said:

    I think he leads the Unicorn team.

    High Unicornvolutionary?
  • ItsClobberinTimeItsClobberinTime Member Posts: 6,666 ★★★★★
    edited July 27
    EdisonLaw said:

    ItsClobberinTime said:

    EdisonLaw said:

    ItsClobberinTime said:

    EdisonLaw said:

    ItsClobberinTime said:

    Mid defender, no idea why they call him 5/5 he already has a bunch of counters and isn't even in the featured crystal yet.

    Do you think he'll get a defensive tune up like Arcade?
    I wish but I don't even know what they could do to him defensively to make him 5/5 without turning him into another Serpent on accident because if that happens then there's zero chance he gets buffed offensively as well too. Right now he's definitely not a 5/5 defender it's more like a 4/5 but I'd rather he stays a 4/5 and gets a buff on attack than getting buffed on defense to match the 5/5 but keep him mid on attack.
    A 4/5 defender is better for sure, not every single defender needs to be 5/5. I think his combo detonation and evolutionary field should last a bit longer so you could fit multiple SP1 bursts. I still haven't tested him before
    Actually the issue is it expires too slowly, they should've kept the combo detonation passive similar to BRB's shocks so you have full control of it and fan re apply it reliably as much as you want.
    They probably made it expire slowly because if they made it too fast, on defense it would just detonate and you wouldn't have time to land 15 hits before the timer expires. I think on attack though, you should be able to control its duration compared to on defense.
    No that's not what I'm talking about, the rate at which it expires in general is fine, but what they should do is make it so it expires faster while you're landing hits. That would make him more dangerous both on attack and defense.
  • CheeseMaster482CheeseMaster482 Member Posts: 326 ★★★
    edited July 27
    Polygon said:

    EdisonLaw said:

    NONYABIZZ said:

    Polygon said:

    NONYABIZZ said:

    Vega is an "as long as they're not obviously and objectively terrible, THEY'RE GREAT" typa guy. I came to that conclusion after his goofy ass champion rankings.

    Also I haven't watched any of these videos so I genuinely do not know anything about Evolutionary and can already see some people saying he isn't all that on defense which makes me a bit happy.

    He has like 6+ people doing his tier lists for him but yet still always manages to have some of the worst rankings possible
    Did you see his latest top 30 champs in the game ranking???
    That **** just pissed me off so bad 😭😭

    Anyways, don't want this thread to become a means to target another person but damn that was the thing that turned me completely off his videos
    So who makes the best tier lists nowadays? @Lagacy ?
    It was Trappy but he quit. Most the ones rn arent that good/ Celestial , KTs probably the best from the bunch that do. Vega and lagacy are at the bottom
    KT1????? Mr. Red Skull #1 tech? Pig top 2 science? Knull top 4? Kindred and Diablo in the top 10?

    Jigsaw you tweaking 😂
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