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When will cheaters be banned from Battlegrounds?

RebarkRebark Member Posts: 491 ★★★

The situation has been unbearable and unsustainable.
Not only are there modders, who only get banned if they're extremely stupid and have no idea about the game and are unlucky enough to face a CCP or a Kabam employee, Battlegrounds is overrun with piloted players.
Among Celestial 5-6, which corresponds to 250 players, I know about 15 who are piloted. I know them because I know who plays on those accounts. That's 5%. Detail: I know them because the pilots are Brazilian, and I'm Brazilian, so I know who they are and which accounts they play on.
Imagine how many other accounts are piloted by mercs from other countries. Talking to some mercs, there are reports of mercs taking 4-5 accounts per season to put on Celestial.
And it's unbelievable that nothing is done. What's your problem with issuing permanent bans? I don't even need to mention those who use softmods. Apparently, this game has completely lost the ability to automatically ban, so only those who are reported for some extremely absurd fight are banned, and even then, it sometimes takes a while. There's someone on Celestial using cheats completely blatantly, the season ends today, and he's still there.
Will he be banned at the end? What does it matter? They'll ban him after he harmed dozens of people throughout the season.
I get the feeling you're wasting too much time on nonsense. Nobody wanted/needed this game on their computer, nobody asked for it. I can only imagine how much it cost in terms of money and time to make this.
This alternative game mode is just another nonsense.
Why don't you just invest all your effort into solving the cheating problem? There should be at least one person whose job is to just ban, all day long. Reporting doesn't do anything at all; you report and get an automated message, and nothing happens.

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  • captain_rogerscaptain_rogers Member Posts: 13,757 ★★★★★
    Idk man, but one thing I'll say is, they should continuously monitor players in the highest ranks.

    Let's be real, One guy cheat/mod/pilot in diamond, not a big deal. But they cheat or pilot in celestial, that's a very big deal. There are high stakes, especially with the brawl. And most celestial players are whales anyways. Every time they let a cheater cheat on celestial, even letting him get there is a Big L. There are like 600 accs there right, it wouldn't take much resources to Manually check these accounts once in a while.
  • captain_rogerscaptain_rogers Member Posts: 13,757 ★★★★★
    Btw pixie is brazilian too so does that mean pixie is piloting? Damn.
  • Eagle1900Eagle1900 Member Posts: 6





    legit?

  • captain_rogerscaptain_rogers Member Posts: 13,757 ★★★★★
    Eagle1900 said:






    legit?

    Guilly possible with good rng but swomen not so sure? 100% health against yelena is skeptical.
  • RebarkRebark Member Posts: 491 ★★★
    Eagle1900 said:






    legit?

    Spider woman can do Yelena, but I think it's impossible without losing life
  • RebarkRebark Member Posts: 491 ★★★

    Btw pixie is brazilian too so does that mean pixie is piloting? Damn.

    I have no idea who he is, so probably yes
  • JohnnooooooJohnnoooooo Member Posts: 345 ★★★
    edited August 6
    I've seen screenshots from some celestial lads I'm friends with on Line app and discord, and yes they've shown me screenshots of people who pilot accounts, supposedly more than half of celestial 4/5 is literally only a couple of people piloting many accounts judging by the screenshots I've seen ( a Merc bragging he has over 30 accounts in celestial)
    My ally leader when I crashed out of the game for a bit, told me not to take it so hard as mysterium and celestial is rife with mercs and proceeded to show me aswell.. so I've seen from a few places now it's probably true..
    Radiance is like crack for these people, they're willing to pay someone to work for it..
  • Beerus2StrongBeerus2Strong Member Posts: 374 ★★★
    Unrelated question: Getting to GC, do I stand to receive rank rewards if I only play a round win or lose?

    I don't care much about BGs except the radiance.
  • BogoBogo Member Posts: 374 ★★★

    Unrelated question: Getting to GC, do I stand to receive rank rewards if I only play a round win or lose?

    I don't care much about BGs except the radiance.

    Yeah U only have to play one out. It counts no matter the outcome. Forfiets don't count tho, you have to play one to the end.
  • ButtehrsButtehrs Member Posts: 8,561 ★★★★★

    Btw pixie is brazilian too so does that mean pixie is piloting? Damn.

    You think he's good enough to be piloting when he can't even best someone who pauses?
  • DemonzfyreDemonzfyre Member Posts: 23,387 ★★★★★
    So you know personally that 15 are being piloted, have you reported them?
  • BringPopcornBringPopcorn Member Posts: 10,221 ★★★★★
    Math is mathing.. 15 out of 250 from 1 country and we gotta "imagine from other countries".. that would mean at least all of the acoounts in Celestial are being piloted.
    Damn you pilots!!! Damn you Brazil and other countries!!! Damn you world!!!
  • DemonzfyreDemonzfyre Member Posts: 23,387 ★★★★★
    You need to understand that reporting does work. Bans are done in waves. Not only that, reports take time to investigate. There are hundreds of thousands of people that play battlegrounds. We see dozens of people posting threads about people cheating and many times there isn't any cheating.

    There's a dedicated team that investigates reports of cheating but they have to investigate every report. They've explained dozens of times that bans are not instant. So if you're reporting people through support, what evidence are you giving them? Is it just screenshots of conversations? Because those most of the time aren't actionable because screenshots can easily be manipulated. So you'd need more evidence.

    Keep reporting people. But just remember you're not the only one reporting.
  • BringPopcornBringPopcorn Member Posts: 10,221 ★★★★★

    Btw pixie is brazilian too so does that mean pixie is piloting? Damn.

    Yes.
  • Beerus2StrongBeerus2Strong Member Posts: 374 ★★★
    Bogo said:

    Unrelated question: Getting to GC, do I stand to receive rank rewards if I only play a round win or lose?

    I don't care much about BGs except the radiance.

    Yeah U only have to play one out. It counts no matter the outcome. Forfiets don't count tho, you have to play one to the end.
    Ok. Thank you, Bogo.
  • captain_rogerscaptain_rogers Member Posts: 13,757 ★★★★★

    You need to understand that reporting does work. Bans are done in waves. Not only that, reports take time to investigate. There are hundreds of thousands of people that play battlegrounds. We see dozens of people posting threads about people cheating and many times there isn't any cheating.

    There's a dedicated team that investigates reports of cheating but they have to investigate every report. They've explained dozens of times that bans are not instant. So if you're reporting people through support, what evidence are you giving them? Is it just screenshots of conversations? Because those most of the time aren't actionable because screenshots can easily be manipulated. So you'd need more evidence.

    Keep reporting people. But just remember you're not the only one reporting.

    your ban oocur in waves and reporting work nd investigation stuff won't work on celestial level. Sure I agree, they can't monitor all report. A diamond or uru player Can suffer facing a modder, not a big deal.
    But I believe if someone report a celestial players it needs to be investigated ASAP. They cannot wait for the entire season to ban a celestial modder. The damage will be huge.
  • captain_rogerscaptain_rogers Member Posts: 13,757 ★★★★★
    Buttehrs said:

    Btw pixie is brazilian too so does that mean pixie is piloting? Damn.

    You think he's good enough to be piloting when he can't even best someone who pauses?
    He wants you to believe he's unskilled so no one suspect him or piloting.
  • BringPopcornBringPopcorn Member Posts: 10,221 ★★★★★

    Buttehrs said:

    Btw pixie is brazilian too so does that mean pixie is piloting? Damn.

    You think he's good enough to be piloting when he can't even best someone who pauses?
    He wants you to believe he's unskilled so no one suspect him or piloting.
    Tbf we never said he was a good pilot....
  • captain_rogerscaptain_rogers Member Posts: 13,757 ★★★★★

    Btw pixie is brazilian too so does that mean pixie is piloting? Damn.

    Hey Trump voter, this is the last time I will reply to one comment of yours, next one , if you attack me for no reason, you will be blocked as I did with some and Im in full peace right now.

    Keep trying to do something against me.

    Now, against you , the last poll with only the punch bag Bucky as choice was against the rules. Some summoners complained.
    Damn man just reminds me of this old meme.


  • BringPopcornBringPopcorn Member Posts: 10,221 ★★★★★
    edited August 6

    Btw pixie is brazilian too so does that mean pixie is piloting? Damn.

    Hey Trump voter, this is the last time I will reply to one comment of yours, next one , if you attack me for no reason, you will be blocked as I did with some and Im in full peace right now.

    Keep trying to do something against me.

    Now, against you , the last poll with only the punch bag Bucky as choice was against the rules. Some summoners complained.
    Damn man just reminds me of this old meme.


    He is at peace but calls you a Trump voter in the UK....
    Btw Brazil had Jair Bolsonaro as president and he was worse than Trump 🤣
  • KTPrimalKTPrimal Member Posts: 123
    Piloting and win sharing are still happening. It's an open secret honestly. The best part is when the players let it slip during stream. But I'm pretty sure the top celestial players are white-listed or something. Surely kabam wouldn't continue to let battlegrounds piloting and collusion to continue.
  • RebarkRebark Member Posts: 491 ★★★
    edited August 6

    Math is mathing.. 15 out of 250 from 1 country and we gotta "imagine from other countries".. that would mean at least all of the acoounts in Celestial are being piloted.
    Damn you pilots!!! Damn you Brazil and other countries!!! Damn you world!!!

    There aren't that many mercs capable of securing a Celestial.
    But yes, I believe that more than 50% of the people in Celestial are piloted.
    It could be less or more, but I don't think it's much different.
    And if that number seems ridiculous, don't even bother with Alliance War; there are entire alliances made up of pilots and secondary accounts. In short, there aren't that many players who play the game at a high competitive level. I know this because I'm an officer of a top-10 alliance, and it's extremely difficult to recruit people who know how to play well and have a good account. Of course, not everyone who plays well is interested in Alliance War, just like Battlegrounds.
    I finished this season in Celestial VI, but for the last 10 seasons, I'd go to Mysterium and stop. I had no desire or interest in playing Battlegrounds, just like many people.
    This player base is evident in open tournaments. Today, from Mysterium 1 to Celestial 1, there are no more than 300 people playing, that's for sure.
    Yesterday, I was playing with some friends on Discord and sharing my screen. On about five occasions, I faced piloted accounts; they knew who the pilot was.

    The pattern is always the same: players who spend a lot on the game, have good accounts but lack the skill to play, and want the rewards. It's convenient for Kabam that there are mercs who do this. But for honest players, it's pure hell.

    It's very difficult to compete against someone who, because they play on five accounts, has five times more matches and more experience than you. This wouldn't be a problem; after all, if you want to compete, you have to strive to be the best; there's no point in crying over your opponent being better than you. The problem is that the number of spots in Celestial is limited. People are paying on the black market for spots and taking them away from those who also spend money and want to compete. In the long run, this discourages people from competing.
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