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Shocker vs yelena

AlmccarthyAlmccarthy Member Posts: 174 ★★
edited August 7 in General Discussion
Why doesnt his heavy work ? His charges do absolutely nothing but in yelenas kit (unawake version) it says she caps opponents attack at 60% at the beginning of the fight but your gaining the extra attack during the fight so surely his heavy should be just reduced by 40% ? @DNA3000 any chance you could clear this up for me ? Thanks

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  • DNA3000DNA3000 Member, Guardian Posts: 21,050 Guardian

    Why doesnt his heavy work ? His charges do absolutely nothing but in yelenas kit (unawake version) it says she caps opponents attack at 60% at the beginning of the fight but your gaining the extra attack during the fight so surely his heavy should be just reduced by 40% ? @DNA3000 any chance you could clear this up for me ? Thanks

    “While being attacked, she caps her target’s Attack Rating at 60% of what it was at the start of the fight.”

    I’m not sure if this is a translation glitch, but the English description says Yelena caps attack rating to 60% of what attack rating was at the start of the fight, not that she caps attack rating at the start of the fight only.
  • AlmccarthyAlmccarthy Member Posts: 174 ★★
    DNA3000 said:

    Why doesnt his heavy work ? His charges do absolutely nothing but in yelenas kit (unawake version) it says she caps opponents attack at 60% at the beginning of the fight but your gaining the extra attack during the fight so surely his heavy should be just reduced by 40% ? @DNA3000 any chance you could clear this up for me ? Thanks

    “While being attacked, she caps her target’s Attack Rating at 60% of what it was at the start of the fight.”

    I’m not sure if this is a translation glitch, but the English description says Yelena caps attack rating to 60% of what attack rating was at the start of the fight, not that she caps attack rating at the start of the fight only.
    I am English mate haha, I just didnt know if the description meant you have a 40% reduction at the start of the fight but it means is if your attack is 1000 and she makes it 600 then no matter what happens you cant go above 600
  • NONYABIZZNONYABIZZ Member Posts: 1,082 ★★★★
    Basically ANYTHING THAT INCREASES ATTACK RATING WILL NOT WORK. Furies for example will not work. Shockers heavy gains INCREASED ATTACK RATING yelena stops that so no damage for Lil shocky.
  • DNA3000DNA3000 Member, Guardian Posts: 21,050 Guardian

    DNA3000 said:

    Why doesnt his heavy work ? His charges do absolutely nothing but in yelenas kit (unawake version) it says she caps opponents attack at 60% at the beginning of the fight but your gaining the extra attack during the fight so surely his heavy should be just reduced by 40% ? @DNA3000 any chance you could clear this up for me ? Thanks

    “While being attacked, she caps her target’s Attack Rating at 60% of what it was at the start of the fight.”

    I’m not sure if this is a translation glitch, but the English description says Yelena caps attack rating to 60% of what attack rating was at the start of the fight, not that she caps attack rating at the start of the fight only.
    I am English mate haha, I just didnt know if the description meant you have a 40% reduction at the start of the fight but it means is if your attack is 1000 and she makes it 600 then no matter what happens you cant go above 600
    The key part of the description is "while being attacked." This precludes the effect from only happening at the start of the fight (in fact, it can't happen at the start of the fight because you aren't being attacked at the start of the fight).

    Important to note that this also means during the fight attack rating is not being capped when not being attacked. That might seem to be a technicality, but there are times the attack rating of a champion is meaningful even when they are not attacking. Champions that can damage you when they aren't attacking, for example, will have such effects unaffected by the cap (at least in theory: I haven't actually tested this directly, I am simply presuming from the description).
  • captain_rogerscaptain_rogers Member Posts: 13,781 ★★★★★
    DNA3000 said:

    DNA3000 said:

    Why doesnt his heavy work ? His charges do absolutely nothing but in yelenas kit (unawake version) it says she caps opponents attack at 60% at the beginning of the fight but your gaining the extra attack during the fight so surely his heavy should be just reduced by 40% ? @DNA3000 any chance you could clear this up for me ? Thanks

    “While being attacked, she caps her target’s Attack Rating at 60% of what it was at the start of the fight.”

    I’m not sure if this is a translation glitch, but the English description says Yelena caps attack rating to 60% of what attack rating was at the start of the fight, not that she caps attack rating at the start of the fight only.
    I am English mate haha, I just didnt know if the description meant you have a 40% reduction at the start of the fight but it means is if your attack is 1000 and she makes it 600 then no matter what happens you cant go above 600
    The key part of the description is "while being attacked." This precludes the effect from only happening at the start of the fight (in fact, it can't happen at the start of the fight because you aren't being attacked at the start of the fight).

    Important to note that this also means during the fight attack rating is not being capped when not being attacked. That might seem to be a technicality, but there are times the attack rating of a champion is meaningful even when they are not attacking. Champions that can damage you when they aren't attacking, for example, will have such effects unaffected by the cap (at least in theory: I haven't actually tested this directly, I am simply presuming from the description).
    You're right in spotlight they have specifically mentioned this.
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