The mysterium shortage continues...

We used to get 27k per week for a total of 108k per month. Then SQ was shortened to 3 weeks and it reduced mysterium to 81k.
Then last month we got a total of 81k again.
Week 1 - 0
Week 2 - 18k
Week 3 and 4 - 31.5k each

This month? Looks like we're slated for 81k yet again.
But Kabam has said multiple times that mysterium is the same as it was (it's not) and that they were concentrating it into the three weeks so we wouldn't actually miss any (they haven't). If it's going to be over three weeks, then we should be getting 36k per week. That has yet to happen.
But as we have also discovered for Kabam, pushing the mysterium into three weeks doesn't solve the issue of a weekly store reset, which was also conveniently updated (barely) right at the time that the mysterium was reduced.

At what point does this actually get corrected?

Comments

Folkvangr

Trader's outpost was introduced as an improvement to the horribly outdated SQ rewards back in the day. Even the description says mysterium is earned thru SQ.
Why do I have to do objectives in AW and BG to get em this month?...
KABAM WTH!!
Yup. Just a full out mess is going on right now, like someone at Kabam spilled the jars where all the content was and someone else picked it up just throwing things in randomly.
There just seems to be no quality control that asks the right questions. "If we're going to do that, how is this affected?" Would save a lot of trouble with that extra level of protection before making decisions. If it is happening, then they need someone new in there.

They just don’t care
Even the staff in the forums seem to spend their time with comments that add nothing instead of answering the threads about bugs and issues with the game

Zuro

I just realized something....

Trader's outpost was introduced as an improvement to the horribly outdated SQ rewards back in the day. Even the description says mysterium is earned thru SQ.
Why do I have to do objectives in AW and BG to get em this month?...
KABAM WTH!!

The Kabam special: changing things that doesn't need to be changed

CheeseMaster482

Trader's outpost was introduced as an improvement to the horribly outdated SQ rewards back in the day. Even the description says mysterium is earned thru SQ.
Why do I have to do objectives in AW and BG to get em this month?...
KABAM WTH!!
Yup. Just a full out mess is going on right now, like someone at Kabam spilled the jars where all the content was and someone else picked it up just throwing things in randomly.
There just seems to be no quality control that asks the right questions. "If we're going to do that, how is this affected?" Would save a lot of trouble with that extra level of protection before making decisions. If it is happening, then they need someone new in there.
They just don’t care
Even the staff in the forums seem to spend their time with comments that add nothing instead of answering the threads about bugs and issues with the game

Mike only responds to comments glazing him and comments calling him out.

Furrymoosen

Trader's outpost was introduced as an improvement to the horribly outdated SQ rewards back in the day. Even the description says mysterium is earned thru SQ.
Why do I have to do objectives in AW and BG to get em this month?...
KABAM WTH!!
Yup. Just a full out mess is going on right now, like someone at Kabam spilled the jars where all the content was and someone else picked it up just throwing things in randomly.
There just seems to be no quality control that asks the right questions. "If we're going to do that, how is this affected?" Would save a lot of trouble with that extra level of protection before making decisions. If it is happening, then they need someone new in there.
They just don’t care
Even the staff in the forums seem to spend their time with comments that add nothing instead of answering the threads about bugs and issues with the game
Mike only responds to comments glazing him and comments calling him out.

More along the lines of just responding to what is easy. Not always, but for the most part. And to an extent it absolutely makes sense. You don't want to jump in on something you're not prepared to answer well or accurately.
The problem at hand under this current topic is that we were answered before, with confidence, and told everything that wasn't accurate about the mysterium shift. And now the questions are harder to answer because every answer so far has been wrong, so they've either gotta go back on what was said before or fix what is clearly not correct according to what we were told. I am guessing that they haven't figured out which way they want to go yet.

SirGamesBond

Daily, reminder of taking half of the weekly mysterium away.

Furrymoosen

@Kabam (Osaurus) Rex
Any new information to share on the mysterium issues?

Herbal_Taxman

I can’t believe you guys are still talking about this.

Folkvangr

I can’t believe you guys are still talking about this.

We are not kabam, so we don’t ignore issues until everyone forgets about it

Kabam (Osaurus) Rex

I can’t believe you guys are still talking about this.
We are not kabam, so we don’t ignore issues until everyone forgets about it

We don't do that, either.

We've talked about Mysterium a lot here.
There's nothing to share about it at this time.
I've brought all the feedback to the team, and I'll poke at it again this week - but as of this moment, nothing is changing.

Buttehrs

I can’t believe you guys are still talking about this.
We are not kabam, so we don’t ignore issues until everyone forgets about it
We don't do that, either.

We've talked about Mysterium a lot here.
There's nothing to share about it at this time.
I've brought all the feedback to the team, and I'll poke at it again this week - but as of this moment, nothing is changing.

Yall better come up with a plan really soon because this is honestly unacceptable. You guys forced mysterium on us. And now your forcing us to just miss out one week a month on resources.

BringPopcorn

Easy solution, scrap the Traders Outpost and give a proper amount of Radiance. Simplify the currencies as promised. When I say proper I really mean a reasonable small ammount for the effort; but thats at least a simpler store that won't be botched with bundles of items thrown together.

ahmynuts

Easy solution, scrap the Traders Outpost and give a proper amount of Radiance. Simplify the currencies as promised. When I say proper I really mean a reasonable small ammount for the effort; but thats at least a simpler store that won't be botched with bundles of items thrown together.

They won't do it because radiance is supposed to be a competitive currency

Furrymoosen

I can’t believe you guys are still talking about this.
We are not kabam, so we don’t ignore issues until everyone forgets about it
We don't do that, either.

We've talked about Mysterium a lot here.
There's nothing to share about it at this time.
I've brought all the feedback to the team, and I'll poke at it again this week - but as of this moment, nothing is changing.

So with the SQ shift things have already changed negatively, and as of this moment there will be no change to regression? Makes it sound like the mysterium nerf was deliberate, which makes this even worse, especially with all the times you said we were getting the same amount. So there's a couple ways to look at this:
1. You guys changed mysterium for the worse and are trying to gaslight players.
2. You guys changed mysterium for the worse and are somehow convinced it's actually the same.
3. You guys changed mysterium for the worse and are happy to leave us with less currency for an "improved" store, perhaps just balancing the magical "rewards budget".
4. Or you guys changed mysterium for the worse and are just unwilling to correct it for a reason that is either a simple lack of desire to do the work or it's too embarrassing to admit that all the times you doubled down on nothing having changed being incorrect.

I'm sure there might be other options too, but none of them look good. Mysterium changed for the worse, so it either needs to be corrected, or Kabam needs to be straightforward with why the changes were made.

I'm not thinking you guys knowingly did anything nefarious or intended to negatively impact anything with the shift. I think we're all just confused at the sequence of these events. The mysterium situation is considerably worse, you said it's not, the numbers make it clear that the defense is incorrect, and you guys don't want to correct it. It doesn't make sense.

IggyPop

I can’t believe you guys are still talking about this.
We are not kabam, so we don’t ignore issues until everyone forgets about it
We don't do that, either.

We've talked about Mysterium a lot here.
There's nothing to share about it at this time.
I've brought all the feedback to the team, and I'll poke at it again this week - but as of this moment, nothing is changing.

I used to be able to pick up all T6B/T3A selectors and 7* shards from the all store, which was 16k and 10k, leaving with a bit leftover to spend on saga items or other stuff.
NOW, with a new update store, which is great, I can’t afford for a half of what I used to pick up.
What’s the point of upgrading store with increased values if we can’t keep up with it with the mysterium that’s available. Either way, it looks like it was cut down “unintentionally” by spreading it through 3 weeks and delaying it, or it needs to be increased to accommodate the new store prices.
Help us to unscrew this situation, please.

SirGamesBond

All I ask is 27k weekly.
Standard rewards budget set by you guys.
We aren't getting 27k weekly.
That's all. I have no other issues with it.

CyrillFromTula

Most transparent and honest answers I've saw only from Crashed, so maybe he can give some info. Knowing how slow kabam is for such decisions, maybe they could at least move saga items somewhere else. Because now it eats a good chunk of monthly mysterium budget

BringPopcorn

Easy solution, scrap the Traders Outpost and give a proper amount of Radiance. Simplify the currencies as promised. When I say proper I really mean a reasonable small ammount for the effort; but thats at least a simpler store that won't be botched with bundles of items thrown together.
They won't do it because radiance is supposed to be a competitive currency

Yeah well Mysterium is supposed to be SQ earned and they are making you earn it thru BG and AW... So we are even
I just realized how toxic the relationship Kabam-Player is. Its always a bunch of mess ups and F ups, players upset and vocal about it, followed by the promise of transparency and change which happens for a few weeks and the cycle restarts.

Kabam (Osaurus) Rex

Easy solution, scrap the Traders Outpost and give a proper amount of Radiance. Simplify the currencies as promised. When I say proper I really mean a reasonable small ammount for the effort; but thats at least a simpler store that won't be botched with bundles of items thrown together.

Radiance is a competitive currency, it will not replace Mysterium.

We also never "promised" to simplify all other currencies - we said that if Radiance was successful, we would look into doing the same with engagement-based currencies.

Kabam (Osaurus) Rex

As I said above, I'll poke the Mysterium issue again after the weekend and try to bring forth a solution.
I'm not going to promise a fix or a change, because as we see here, the slightest suggestion of something will be taken as a promise.

I will bring it back to the team again and try to make a change.

Changes don't happen overnight, as I've said many times, there isn't a magical "fix the Mysterium" button - if there was, I would press it.

BringPopcorn

Easy solution, scrap the Traders Outpost and give a proper amount of Radiance. Simplify the currencies as promised. When I say proper I really mean a reasonable small ammount for the effort; but thats at least a simpler store that won't be botched with bundles of items thrown together.
Radiance is a competitive currency, it will not replace Mysterium.

We also never "promised" to simplify all other currencies - we said that if Radiance was successful, we would look into doing the same with engagement-based currencies.

Yes I know what radiance is and thank you for clarifying something we already knew.
Now can you explain why the SQ currency is being related to AQ, AW and BG to be earned? Not just being earned but "replaced" since the no SQ for a week seems to be a repeated thing now?.
You are right you never "promised" to simplify cuurrencies. What we were told was that it would make updating rewards simpler for you. Which shows to be complicated since the Trader Outpost update is highly criticized.

Kabam (Osaurus) Rex

Easy solution, scrap the Traders Outpost and give a proper amount of Radiance. Simplify the currencies as promised. When I say proper I really mean a reasonable small ammount for the effort; but thats at least a simpler store that won't be botched with bundles of items thrown together.
Radiance is a competitive currency, it will not replace Mysterium.

We also never "promised" to simplify all other currencies - we said that if Radiance was successful, we would look into doing the same with engagement-based currencies.
Yes I know what radiance is and thank you for clarifying something we already knew.
Now can you explain why the SQ currency is being related to AQ, AW and BG to be earned? Not just being earned but "replaced" since the no SQ for a week seems to be a repeated thing now?.

It was clarified because it was suggested to replace Mysterium with Radiance.

I did not design the Side Quest this month, so I cannot explain the design choice to you, but I can tell you that all of the objectives were engagement-based, not rank-based.
It was asking you to defeat opponents in different modes; you didn't need to win anything.

GroundedWisdom

Worth nothing we didn't get 0 week one. There is Mysterium for doing 3 Future Objectives.

BringPopcorn

Easy solution, scrap the Traders Outpost and give a proper amount of Radiance. Simplify the currencies as promised. When I say proper I really mean a reasonable small ammount for the effort; but thats at least a simpler store that won't be botched with bundles of items thrown together.
Radiance is a competitive currency, it will not replace Mysterium.

We also never "promised" to simplify all other currencies - we said that if Radiance was successful, we would look into doing the same with engagement-based currencies.
Yes I know what radiance is and thank you for clarifying something we already knew.
Now can you explain why the SQ currency is being related to AQ, AW and BG to be earned? Not just being earned but "replaced" since the no SQ for a week seems to be a repeated thing now?.
It was clarified because it was suggested to replace Mysterium with Radiance.

I did not design the Side Quest this month, so I cannot explain the design choice to you, but I can tell you that all of the objectives were engagement-based, not rank-based.
It was asking you to defeat opponents in different modes; you didn't need to win anything.

Well then scrap the mysterium store, put little bits of radiance and ask us to defeat opponents in different modes without needing to win anything. Just ask us to engage. I mean you are already asking people to participate on this competitive modes for Mysterium, why can't it work the other way?

IggyPop

As I said above, I'll poke the Mysterium issue again after the weekend and try to bring forth a solution.
I'm not going to promise a fix or a change, because as we see here, the slightest suggestion of something will be taken as a promise.

I will bring it back to the team again and try to make a change.

Changes don't happen overnight, as I've said many times, there isn't a magical "fix the Mysterium" button - if there was, I would press it.

That is all we can ask for at this time, thanks Mike.
We would also appreciate if you could pass to us any answer from the team whenever the Mysterium conversation happens, if possible. Thank you.

ToniXD_16

I can’t believe you guys are still talking about this.
We are not kabam, so we don’t ignore issues until everyone forgets about it
We don't do that, either.

We've talked about Mysterium a lot here.
There's nothing to share about it at this time.
I've brought all the feedback to the team, and I'll poke at it again this week - but as of this moment, nothing is changing.

Yall are a joke

GroundedWisdom

I can’t believe you guys are still talking about this.
We are not kabam, so we don’t ignore issues until everyone forgets about it
We don't do that, either.

We've talked about Mysterium a lot here.
There's nothing to share about it at this time.
I've brought all the feedback to the team, and I'll poke at it again this week - but as of this moment, nothing is changing.
Yall are a joke

Uncalled for.

Kabam (Osaurus) Rex

Easy solution, scrap the Traders Outpost and give a proper amount of Radiance. Simplify the currencies as promised. When I say proper I really mean a reasonable small ammount for the effort; but thats at least a simpler store that won't be botched with bundles of items thrown together.
Radiance is a competitive currency, it will not replace Mysterium.

We also never "promised" to simplify all other currencies - we said that if Radiance was successful, we would look into doing the same with engagement-based currencies.
Yes I know what radiance is and thank you for clarifying something we already knew.
Now can you explain why the SQ currency is being related to AQ, AW and BG to be earned? Not just being earned but "replaced" since the no SQ for a week seems to be a repeated thing now?.
It was clarified because it was suggested to replace Mysterium with Radiance.

I did not design the Side Quest this month, so I cannot explain the design choice to you, but I can tell you that all of the objectives were engagement-based, not rank-based.
It was asking you to defeat opponents in different modes; you didn't need to win anything.
Well then scrap the mysterium store, put little bits of radiance and ask us to defeat opponents in different modes without needing to win anything. Just ask us to engage. I mean you are already asking people to participate on this competitive modes for Mysterium, why can't it work the other way?

You're overlooking the distinction between competitive-based currency and engagement-based currency.

An engagement-based currency is something earned through active participation, interaction, or consistent activity within a platform, regardless of competitive outcomes. Nothing is asking you to outperform anybody else to acquire the Mysterium this month.

I understand why you would suggest replacing the Mysterium with Radiance, but that is not the purpose of the addition of Radiance.

BringPopcorn

Easy solution, scrap the Traders Outpost and give a proper amount of Radiance. Simplify the currencies as promised. When I say proper I really mean a reasonable small ammount for the effort; but thats at least a simpler store that won't be botched with bundles of items thrown together.
Radiance is a competitive currency, it will not replace Mysterium.

We also never "promised" to simplify all other currencies - we said that if Radiance was successful, we would look into doing the same with engagement-based currencies.
Yes I know what radiance is and thank you for clarifying something we already knew.
Now can you explain why the SQ currency is being related to AQ, AW and BG to be earned? Not just being earned but "replaced" since the no SQ for a week seems to be a repeated thing now?.
It was clarified because it was suggested to replace Mysterium with Radiance.

I did not design the Side Quest this month, so I cannot explain the design choice to you, but I can tell you that all of the objectives were engagement-based, not rank-based.
It was asking you to defeat opponents in different modes; you didn't need to win anything.
Well then scrap the mysterium store, put little bits of radiance and ask us to defeat opponents in different modes without needing to win anything. Just ask us to engage. I mean you are already asking people to participate on this competitive modes for Mysterium, why can't it work the other way?
You're overlooking the distinction between competitive-based currency and engagement-based currency.

An engagement-based currency is something earned through active participation, interaction, or consistent activity within a platform, regardless of competitive outcomes. Nothing is asking you to outperform anybody else to acquire the Mysterium this month.

I understand why you would suggest replacing the Mysterium with Radiance, but that is not the purpose of the addition of Radiance.

You are trying to engage them into competitve modes. So it should either have a competive reward or not be used at all.
Also there is a lack of consideration on your side. SQ is a mode that its casual as it gets.
AQ and AW are not, there is people who don't even play them, people who are not even in alliance, people who are part of an alliance that maybe only have 1 BG for AQ or War.
You are allowing some people to just grab an objective and flake out during off season when war planning for a complete season is ongoing. There is a lack of foresight on promoting engagement. Some people may dip out after just completing the objective and affect 29 others. Yes its off season so it doesn't affect as much, just waste of time for people recruiting and planning.
I really don't want radiance in SQ, or anything related. I would like to keep things simple for everyone.

SirGamesBond

The store is fine, but it does serves a purpose...
The update took our ability to buy 1k 7* shards. But it made basics cheaper.
I buy basics, the gold and the t5cc. Yes t5cc are in short supply so I prefer to throw mysterium on them and cover the rest from radiance.

Just keep the weekly cycle of providing 27k, most of us will forget to complain about it.

DrZola

I thought the Mysterium shortage was resolved by providing fewer and lesser options for spending it in the Trader’s Outpost?

Dr. Zola