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I knew they would come through for us. Thank you kabam we love you

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SpyderFam

https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/comment/2868638#Comment_2868638

If you thought the price for those deals was "stupidly high," then why did you buy them?

Even if I can afford a luxury product, I won't buy it if I think the price is "stupidly high." The price has to match the value it has for me.

Magicsol

https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/comment/2868640#Comment_2868640

"7* Torch or DPhoenix are not meta-defining"

-GroundedIQ

😭😭😭😭 Holy clueless airball, if this guy spend as much time in the game as he does in forums he would know what is meta-defining and what isn't, but heh maybe he gets an odin booked here and there after d-riding and protecting Kabam in forums 24/7

GroundedWisdom

https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/comment/2868643#Comment_2868643

I'd like to know where I said that.

I actually said Dark Phoenix was, and I then agreed that Torch is, with the caveat that 6* was just as useful.

So much for clueless.

GroundedWisdom

https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/comment/2868638#Comment_2868638

I'm not stirring the pot at all. Nor am I talking about every single commenter. I'm speaking in a general sense.

I'll give you Dark Phoenix. Red Guardian was a personal thing.

Magicsol

https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/comment/2868635#Comment_2868635

Here let me help you cause you a lil slow

"They're not full of meta- defining champs"

Nope every single sale has had a meta defining champ, with the peak one being DPhoenix and the least one being Red Guardian (even he was broken last meta btw), you said DPhoenix was just "OP" then you follow up with "they're not meta-defining"

And the difference between a 6* Torch and a 7* is humongous, testament to that is you won't see people running the 6*, but you will always see people running the 7* IF they have him.

Clueless x2, don't try to alter your words, you will lose your odin bud, would be funny if someone could leak your IGN ingame to see if you have any BG tittles or war titles, maybe that would make your already wrong opinion slightly more valid.

GroundedWisdom

https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/comment/2868653#Comment_2868653

You and I clearly disagree on some points. Which is fine. They have not been all meta-defining Champs, and Torch is good as a 6*. Is it the exact same as a 7*? Obviously not, otherwise they wouldn't market a 7*. Do you need a 7* because a 6* can't do the job? No.

What I'm not going to do is make it personal. That doesn't fly with me, and it shows a definite lack of maturity. My IGN isn't that big of a secret. I just don't broadcast it. We're having a discussion. I like to keep it on the subject we're discussing and not the size of my….."Account".

KTPrimal

https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/comment/2868667#Comment_2868667

They've all been meta-defining. Except for Civil Warrior

startropics

https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/comment/2868578#Comment_2868578

I wasn't f2p and I understand and agree with their general spending model. My issue is they've ballooned the unit spending ceiling by 4x (40k units back then vs 160k+ now).

I was a big time grinder and dolphin spender so I had access to most of the important goodies. Now that I can't grind for the first time ever, my only choice was to quit. If the game wasn't so inflated with unit offers I'd likely still be playing.

Another issue that keeps players out is top 30 prestige and if you take a long break, the chances of you coming back is next to nothing. Before it was much easier.

Those are the problems now….non stop offers to keep up and engage with the game 24/7 or else..

GroundedWisdom

https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/comment/2868669#Comment_2868669

I think there's a difference between meta-pertinent and meta-defining. They might be part of the current meta, but I wouldn't call them defining.

TheMostHated1

https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/comment/2868635#Comment_2868635

Human Torch, Dark Phoenix, future ant man, nick fury, Tigra and red guardian aren’t meta defining champs, yeah okay bro💀🙏🏽

AnvilOfCrom

https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/comment/2868309#Comment_2868309

Well you’ve totally gone off piste here. Yes I see your point, but the earlier reference was made to the gaming world, not world poverty.

Magicsol

Juat lost a match in which I scored 50.8k, and the opponent scored 51.7k because he has a r4 torch, but chillax guys 6* torch = 7* and its not meta defining its "meta-pertinent🤡"

We now got Uru enjoyers trying to define you what is and isn't a meta champ, wild world.

jcphillips7

https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/comment/2868673#Comment_2868673

“Those are the problems now….non stop offers to keep up and engage with game 24/7 or else..”

This is without a doubt fact, at least how I’ve seen it lately. I’m a big spender, but it’s starting to get to the point that even if I whale out and play in T1 AWs and Map 8 AQ, I’m still starting to fall behind because I don’t no-life BGs.

Top ranks of that are getting a crazy amount of radiance to fund R4s, and when Magik gets released, unless her pieces are tied to different game mode currencies, that will be a problem for a lot of people.

Either they’ll need to release bigger chunks of radiance, or provide different means to acquire it.

Spenders get a huge advantage as it is, but now it’s amplified by: not only do you have to spend on all these events, but you also have to devote ridiculous time to this game in order to stay at the tip top of relevance.

Not only do you need to drop $1000+ on the next hot event, but you also need to finish C4/C5 or good luck, you’ll eventually be a fading thought.

KTPrimal

https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/comment/2868674#Comment_2868674

I understand the philosophy you're conveying. But still they're meta; and players who don't have them at least 7r3 is missing out on a lot of power. Not having them handicaps your account

Magicsol

https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/comment/2868667#Comment_2868667

I mean in anyway you look at it this has been an incredibly funny argumentation, to the point you resulted into saying "we have different opinions" to try to bulge your way out of it instead of straw-maning it like you do as usually and top it all of with a meme that is gonna haunt you as long as you are in forums "6* torch = 7*torch"

And to answer that last strawman of yours, I never asked you to compare account strength, war titles and BG titles are something that are achieved through skill and deep game knowledge, something you obviously don't have and therefore makes your opinion on what is and isn't meta, irrelevant ASF.

6* torch may equal 7* torch in those bronze matches you are playing, but in the real game others are playing, HoF champs, torch and guardian have proven to be the deciding factor of matches, not just this season or meta, but across alot of past seasons aswell.

But at the end of the day, when you got ex-whales, present-day whales, top BG players and 95% of forums users telling you that you are simply wrong, and you still don't bulge or reconsider your opinion, that is clearly a you EGO problem you should work on, your fancy words and sentences won't cut it.

Cba to reply to whatever else you write its so pointless (shoutout to the guy who beat me with his r4 torch even though I played a flawless round, he motivated me to bury you.)

GroundedWisdom

You are literally having a conversation with yourself, and ignoring what I say, so have at it. I commented on Torch in response to your comment and you ignored it. I'm interested in having actual conversations with respectful individuals.

You're kissing your own ass. You don't need me to respond for you to do that.

startropics

https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/comment/2868696#Comment_2868696

I know you're responding to someone else, but if you're competitive, the cost of upkeep is way up compared to 2018-2019.

And the solution isn't to "chill and step back", which of course you can, and in some cases is the right decision, but that just means leaving everything behind.

MCOC inflation is real and you're dismissing it, which you always seem to do. IMO listen more.

Bugmat78

https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/comment/2868210#Comment_2868210

Correct - Kabam aren't broke. less staff yet they keep looking for more and more revenue. It's jus corporate greed trying to bring in bigger and biger profit margins for shareholders and the men at the top. Somebody is getting all that revenue and it clearly isn't the people coding the game, because the major issues persist.

WhisperDARK

https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/comment/2868716#Comment_2868716

But you don't have to buy anything, Kabam is not forcing you. This is just some kind of obligation we put on ourselves, you don't have to play the game this way in order to have fun. Why do you feel like you have to keep up with the whales? You're not supposed to compete with them and you don't have to, you can play the game at your own pace.

There will always be a gap between f2p and spenders, idk why f2p feel so entitled to have the same rewards as them. People spend in order to obtain what isn't accessible without spending. Kabam is also not forcing anyone to compete for celestial, to play t1 aw, to chase the highest prestige champions. Keep in mind that its a business and there's no too much monetization. You can always play the game without spending a single dime. Besides, those sales don't have any game-changing effects either. Most of the champions sold already exist as 6 stars and they are not meta-defining anyway.

Yeah, I just have a different mindset than most folks in here*. That's just the way I see things but I'm always open to respectful discussion. Let's enjoy wonderfully constructive conversations together as open-minded individuals 🙏

*This reminded me so much of the "you rack disciprine" clip from South Park

startropics

https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/comment/2868737#Comment_2868737

I can only speak for myself but AW was my favorite mode and I'd never accept anything below Tier 1. T1 has the latest defenders, hardest nodes, trickiest placements, and gives the biggest rush and you do it with 29 others who feel the same way.

I was in a competitive AQ alliance too so the prestige chase mattered.

My way of surviving was hardcore arena grinding so I didn't have to spend as much cash on deals to keep up. Now that I can't, it's impossible, so I let the game go before my account started lagging behind.

All the units from arena gave me all the HOF champs, all the july 4 stuff including human torch, and 50k worth of stuff from the cyber weekend store plus all the banquet milestones. Those are very necessary for prestige and war.

Without this I'd be spending an extra $5000+ a year on units to make up for it and that's not happening so the best decision was to retire. I could go full f2p with no arena and play in silver 3 but that's such a huge step down it would lose all its meaning.

ItsClobberinTime

https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/comment/2868642#Comment_2868642

Because Dark Phoenix is a meta defining champ and a must have if you want to be competitive up here I Mysterium 3 and above. Doesn't change the fact that it was ridiculously overpriced and the fact that every big sale requires that much spending now is absurd. The game was never like this, sales were never like this which is why people were okay with spending but now they're pushing it.

ItsClobberinTime

https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/comment/2868643#Comment_2868643

Absolutely hilarious that he typed that, my defenders have been clapped so many times by r4 Torches that I've just removed every single mystic defender fromy deck other than Enchantress, even Kindred gets absolutely nuked it's ridiculous.

Dark Phoenix on the other hand is my #1 most banned champ by far and for obvious reasons.

WhatsGoodEnglish

https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/comment/2868717#Comment_2868717

Instead of just random speculation and trying to blame everything on Kabam being greedy perhaps you all should consider there may be some external factors that are causing the increased monetization of the game. A quick Google search reveals that Netmarble, Kabam’s parent company, lost almost $1 billion in the last 3 years. MCOC is one of their best earners - it may well even be their best earner. In order to get through it Netmarble cut costs which is likely why Kabam saw a reduction in staff. There’s also two years of heavy losses to make up for which is likely causing them to lean more on their top revenue generators to fill the billion dollar sized hole in their coffers. I’m not trying to completely absolve Kabam here, but if the word from on high was probably that they need to generate more money and these sales were the solution they came up with.

peixemacaco

https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/comment/2868757#Comment_2868757

Yes, but the OP that openned this thread only want Thing(s) for "free".

As I said on my previous comment, this is Kabam game, their "goose that lays the golden eggs" content and only a naive girl will be dellusional that the world is fluffy with pink clouds and they dont need money.

Lol

When the Thing store starts, just dont enter or buy.

People that want a Thing 7 stars will buy it and with this help Kabam/Netmarble.

ItsClobberinTime

https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/comment/2868771#Comment_2868771

This idiot will spam complaints about the pause button in BGs and then defend **** like this lmfao dumbest human being on these forums.

BeastDad

https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/comment/2868757#Comment_2868757

It is almost like if you put out an inferior product, people won’t pay for it or something.

Weird.

WhatsGoodEnglish

https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/comment/2868801#Comment_2868801

lol did you even read my post? For one, this isn’t Netmarble’s only game. MCOC is and has been among their best performing games for some time. The company made some decisions that literally erased three years of their net income in a single year. That year was 2022. Anyone remember 2022? If not let me refresh your memory. There weren’t sales and spending events every single month. It’s the year Shuri, Valkyrie, Scorpion,and Hulkling came out. The most difficult defenders introduced were Rintrah and Attuma. There were no 7* champs didn’t exist outside of the updated EQ that came out later in the year. You couldn’t even earn 7* shards until around November. Battlegrounds was also introduced around September that year. As far as sales and difficult 5/5 defenders it probably sounds like a status you wish the game would return to right? The year after that was Necropolis. It was also the year of the summoner showdown tournament. Onslaught was the most difficult defender. And as you might have guessed, the sales weren’t crazy out of control. It’s also the 2nd year in a row Netmarble lost money. Would you describe those two years as an inferior version of MCOC compared to the current state of the game?

These sales aren’t just coming from nowhere or from Kabam’s desire to squeeze blood from a stone. If Unilever takes a huge loss one year then the price of Ben & Jerry’s ice cream goes up in the store as well as the price of Dove soap, and Hellman’s mayo. It’s the same as Netmarble losing multiple years of net income and trying to make it back through properties they own ie this game and other games they own.

Again I’m not trying to completely absolve Kabam here. They likely have some degree of control over how the game is monetized but they also given the order to monetize the game more from the company that owns them

altavista

https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/comment/2868737#Comment_2868737

Isn’t it funny how people who make this argument are always the people who are happy with the status quo?

Imagine a player used to have fun playing ABCD, without needing to spend or “have to do anything” extra.

Now imagine that A becomes buggy, B becomes a slog, C requires lots of money to keep up with, and D is prohibitively resource consuming.

Your “you don’t have to do anything argument” essentially means that this player now only has A-type and B-type content to play. Quantitatively, this player only has half as much things to do, and qualitatively the experience is also worse.

And the “its a business” argument doesn’t really address that a customer can complain when a business makes the experience worse. If a burger starts costing 2x as much, I’m supposed to just not be able to afford the burger anymore but still be happy that Ritchie Rich can still afford to eat that’s burger anymore burger to support the company?

So essentially, your recommendation is to just be happy with 50% of a worse game and to not complain.

SpyderFam

https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/comment/2868755#Comment_2868755

If you have to spend thousands of dollars just to make it to Mysterium, then you need to take a look in the mirror my friend.

Also, not every player even in Celestial has Dark Phoenix, so when you say "must have," that just shows how brainwashed you are by the game and your desire to compete with every advantage possible.

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