New event quest is terrible on Elder (Newer Valiant perspective)

Isman1998

Okay. That was something. I just played and beat this event quest, and I truly think this is one of the worst pieces of content they have ever released. I am a newer Valiant player. My prestige is 16,346, so I am in the lowest bracket of Valiant players.

This event quest for me was nothing but an item vacuum. I thankfully had enough revives, potions, and boosts to trudge through this whack quest. I kid you not, I used over 40 revives and over 100 potions to get through this quest. Call it a skill issue, but the biggest problem was the fact that my roster is not that developed.

15 Fights before the boss is just bonkers. Kabam, you want us to have 15 champions of each class at least at a rank three 6-star level to be able to do decent enough damage to the defenders before you die to block damage? 90 champions?? My roster is not that fleshed out. Even if it was, I'm sure I would be searching for champions that actually benefit from the class-specific nodes.

With how my run went, not having the right champions resulted in some very long fights. I'm talking like 300+ hits just to beat one path fight. That quest with skill champions only was the worst, and that brings me to my next point.

THE NODES. What are these horrible nodes and combinations??? The ones that are supposed to benefit you, the player. The only one that worked decently was the mutant one because it is general enough for any mutant to work with it. Get bleed damage from biohazard, do a special, convert bleeds to get a lot of furies, and do mad damage. That quest was fair and fun.

The skill node has to be the worst, with how restrictive it is. We have to land critical hits to shrug off debuffs. That would work if you consistently crit with every skill champion. You are forcing me to switch characters every fight. "Just use a character that shrugs off debuffs naturally." Once again, that works for a few fights, but I can't play Agent Venom, Kingpin, or whoever else the whole quest. Combine that with the other node that randomly turns off willpower, and you get a quest that is just there to drain resources and is just not fun.

The class-specific nodes need to be revamped. Maybe take some buffs from incursions and throw them on there so you can literally use anybody with the node if you want to continue with this gauntlet format.

Also, why is it that when I beat the quest, the rewards screen was just blank? I didn't even think I got my rewards after beating Elder. I lowkey panicked thinking the game glitched out or something after I spent all this time beating this quest just for me to not get my stuff. Y'all really need to fix that. It was very deflating to see nothing pop up but a few selectors for T5CC after I beat the last boss. Show me my shards or a crystal I just earned or something.

Overall, this quest was awful. Playing through this quest reminded me of why I stopped playing the game 4 years ago. Like a wise man once said, "If it's not fun, why bother?" For this to be the monthly event quest is just mind-blowing to me. This feels rushed and out of touch. I hope that next month's quest is actually decent and fun. Thanks for coming to my TED talk.

Comments

BringPopcorn

https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/comment/2878802#Comment_2878802

I completely agree, only reason why I still did the lower war showcases was those r5 Gems.

ItsClobberinTime

https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/comment/2878797#Comment_2878797

You're not supposed to be able to plow through with zero revives, one or two per quest really isn't as bad as some of you are making it out to be.

As for the armor node specifically, yes you're not supposed to benefit from the node on every fight because you don't need it. A lot of these fights are extremely vanilla with champs who have zero defensive abilities, those fights are basically ROL fights and there's no reason people should be using anything over two revives per quest unless you keep making mistakes over and over again at which point it's a skill issue on the player's part, not the quest's difficulty.

BringPopcorn

We have been doing old content for so long that we got used to plowing thru it.

If people struggle thru new content they shouldn't feel insulted, its fine they are just not ready. 24/30 milestone rewards are perfectly fine for a new Valiant. Yes it sucks to see the higher rewards, but if the expense is 40 revives its just not worthy.

Mik81

Difficulty is created using your best 30 champs. Although you can't accomplish the quest with those 30. You need 90…. and 15 per class. It shouldn't be that restrictive

BringPopcorn

https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/comment/2878812#Comment_2878812

There is a reason why the called it ELDER difficulty....

BigBlueOx

https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/comment/2878812#Comment_2878812

I think more than anything it just highlights that 15 fights is too much for content like this. It’s not the only indicator either, there’s not enough energy to do a quest in a single refill either.

Personally I’ve come around to wanting to see the whole design scrapped. It’s simply not fun anymore. The same node 15 times in a row, and a node that’s 5 years old to boot… yawnnn.

Then it’s completely divorced from story content now too, which should get harder over time not constantly easier

BigBlueOx

https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/comment/2878745#Comment_2878745

Fair points, except this content was never hard just punishing before and now less punishing now. Both iterations have been boring beyond reason

Giantwalrus56

https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/comment/2878809#Comment_2878809

Agreed & that's what I was trying to say in my inital response to OP. Sure, I left out that fact that classic is overturned. Sometimes the juice ain't worth the squeeze. That shouldn't stop people from trying, but just ripping resources is counterproductive.

BeastDad

slog fest

BeastDad

The content is not hard, just overly long.

BringPopcorn

https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/comment/2878821#Comment_2878821

My only problem is that if its gonna stay 15 fights per chapter, it has to be a stand alone. Completing classic and then going into 6 15 fight paths is pretty annoying.

Isman1998

https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/comment/2878569#Comment_2878569

These forums are a mess lol. So hard to find the reply button. No disrespect taken at all. I did Elder because I had an abundance of resources to slog through it. Boosts, Revives, and Potions are all going to expire, so I said, 'What the heck? Let me see if I can even do this quest.

Also, classic isn't that much different from Elder besides the gauntlet format for my bracket, so I thought I might as well use the resources here to get better rewards. I've only been Valiant for a little bit. I tried to run the last valiant gauntlet and could not do it, so I just did the paragon ones. The last valiant gauntlet I remember seeing people talk about the format was different, though, so I have no experience with the one that everyone liked.

I am in 9.1.3 right now in story quests. I will probably go back and explore 8.4 to get more stuff for my roster like you said. The resources would have definitely been better spent there. Basically, I should have stuck with my gut and just skipped this EQ like I was going to before lol. Just wanted to experience it and share my thoughts. Once again, no disrespect taken dude.

Isman1998

https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/comment/2878666#Comment_2878666

Yeah, my account is not ready for Elder lol. It'll get there eventually. But like you said, Classic is still too overtuned to the point that doing Elder was the better option for me, even if it was more of a drag.