Was he taken out back?

ahmynuts

So, we pretty much all think he was kicked out right?

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BringPopcorn

https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/comment/2883593#Comment_2883593

Ever heard of a workers strike?...

The only reason why GW is somewhat right is that Vega was not an employee, he was a guest allowed with access and perks to make his content

TotemCorruption

https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/comment/2883525#Comment_2883525

These kids on the forums are just looking for father figures and MCOC is their only connection with other human beings, so it makes sense, but unfortunately I don't think Vega is the anti-Kabam daddy they've been desperately dreaming about.

It's just a part of his routine to get clicks and attention. Bash Kabam, get views, announce all is good and whale out, get views, announce you're leaving CCP, get views, and I'm sure there will be an "I'm back in the CCP" video later for more views.

GroundedWisdom

https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/comment/2883598#Comment_2883598

Yes, but anyone with a relationship to the company who is promoting a boycott is an easy sever.

Magrailothos

https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/comment/2883593#Comment_2883593

Dude, take a second look at the comment, who wrote the comment, and where you are.

On this forum, people would disagree with GW if they said water was wet.

Polygon

https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/comment/2883515#Comment_2883515

If only they could bring the goat Kabam Brocoli back

ItsClobberinTime

https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/comment/2883442#Comment_2883442

I mean that guy isn't wrong tho, Vega used to suck up to DLL massively, so you can't really blame some for being skeptical. This is also isn't the first time he leaves the ccp or tries to boycott the game he's done before and then backed down immediately.

I applaud the fact that Vega finally grew some balls but let's not get it twisted, it wasn't always like this

Polygon

Cant believe the people acting as if Vega is some hero when realistically hes just pretending and fishing for clickbait views , only to switch up shortly after.This screenshot sums it all up .

ItsClobberinTime

https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/comment/2883634#Comment_2883634

I wouldn't use that one in particular as an example tho because when that happened the main complaints were BGs rewards being garbage and the changes to scoring which were both effectively reverted immediately so of course he's going to do a 180 if the issues get resolved immediately.

What I would use as an example tho is the whole Serpent situation, he defended DLL and said no changes completely fine now he's saying it's unhealthy.

However the only reason I think he gets the benefit of the doubt on this one is that he's actually severed that friendship he used to have with some Kabam employees (most notably DLL). I'm not saying he hasn't gone for the clickbait before but this time it feels genuine simply because of the stuff he said in the videos, there was obviously a big fight with the designers and from what he said, it sounded like it's final so let's at least give the guy the benefit of the doubt and see how things unfold.

DNA3000

https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/comment/2883442#Comment_2883442

By and large I presume other CCP creators are not directly commenting on this out of a sense of respect and decorum. Most of the content creators in the CCP, and this includes Vega himself, respect the program and the participants enough to respect the relatively private nature of the discussions and interactions within it. Why Vega decides to do what he does is his own story to tell. No one should read their own interpretations into the absence of commentary, although I suspect most people will.

Here’s what I’m willing to state. My own direct interactions with Vega were less frequent than with some others, but they were generally respectful, and I agreed with some of this stances and disagreed with others. He was not the lone voice of dissent in the CCP by any means, nor do I believe he ever implied he was. I believe the farthest he went in his video was saying he was a minority voice in the specific ways in which he took some of that criticism to logical conclusions, and in that I would agree. I cannot speak for Vega or anyone else for that matter, and I have no insight or knowledge of any private interactions he had with other CCP members or the Kabam people, but there was some definite friction that came about in what I will call here Vega’s style. This happened even in some of my interactions with Vega, although I never took any of it personally myself. I simply understood Vega was often a very pointed advocate. But this does come with challenges in groups.

As far as I am aware, Vega left the CCP of his own accord, and even he states this. He did say that he felt a discomfort that I will paraphrase as feeling “unwanted” but that’s a thing only he can or should elaborate upon, as that’s a personal feeling. To the extent that I know any of those details, that’s wholly not my place to disclose. What I will say is the narrative that Vega was kicked out of the CCP because Kabam didn’t like his feedback is at best ludicrously oversimplified, and I think Vega would agree that’s not the foundation of his issue with the CCP. It is quite a bit more complicated than that.

The opposite narrative going around is this is just Vega trying to farm clicks. I don’t know him personally myself, but I don’t believe that either. As I said, Vega is a very pointed advocate, and I think he’s doing what he is doing because he believes in it, whatever it is. I think he feels what he is doing is the best thing for his own advocacy goals. The fact that how he thinks and what he does is not always obvious to other people encourages people to fill in the narrative with something they find easier to understand. He’s a drama queen, he’s trying to get attention, he’s farming views. These are easy narratives to promote, but I don’t think they capture the complexity of real people.

I’m not saying I agree with his stance, or that I think it even makes sense to me per se in all respects. But real people march to the beat of their own drummer. They do what makes sense to them. They don’t usually care if their internal logic doesn’t make sense to others. If there’s one thing I can say about the CCP, as is true in any group of people, even when people agree no two people arrive at the same conclusion by the same path. The number of times I have found myself in agreement with someone, but could not make heads or tails of how they arrived at the same conclusion as me, is uncountable.

Agree with Vega, disagree with him, take up his cause or ignore him completely, that’s up to others to decide for themselves. The one thing I would say is don’t fill in the gaps in the narrative with easy spackle. It is basically always wrong. I think of all the things we might have disagreed with, this is something for which I believe Vega and I would be in complete agreement.

GroundedWisdom

Fair point. Which is why I said we don't know. I still feel the same way, though. If I had a partnership with someone who reviewed and presented my product, I would be willing to take negative feedback with the positive. What I wouldn't tolerate is suggesting I'm boycotting the company to a large number of followers. That would be grounds for relationship termination in my books, no matter who it was.

Yet again, it's not my call, I have no idea whether that's what happened or not, and frankly I wish him all the best either way.

DNA3000

https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/comment/2883713#Comment_2883713

MCOC, and games like it, are not typical businesses. I would not continue a partnership with someone advocating a boycott against my business, because a boycott against my business is in effect advocating terminating my customers’ relationship with me. But whether a player spends or not in MCOC is not the sole avenue for a player relationship with the game. The vast majority of players do not spend. Many people, myself included, advocate not spending unless you really want to, that it is perfectly acceptable to play for free, and in fact I’ve documented many strategies for doing so. Kabam is not putting out hit squads on me because of my arena unit farming guide. At least, not that I’m currently aware of.

In and of itself, whether a CCP member advocates spending or advocates not spending is, as far as I am aware, immaterial to their standing in the CCP. If a CCP member started advocating quitting the game completely, say, that might be different. It would then be illogical for them to be a part of the content creator program for the game.