These coliseum fights suck and are too hard

Is what I've been seeing a large (or small and vocal) wave of summoners ranting about on all platforms.

But none of those *constructive* pieces of feedback are thinking about or engaging with these fights beyond the mindless dopamine hit of reward milestones.

That isnt what coliseum is or what the pain fights were either. Some were bs but alot were actually trying to teach us something and I dont think anyone is really looking at any of these fights from that lens anymore and cannot comprehend why they are made the way they are.

Crossbones: "the special lock is dumb because i keep getting killed by the sp2" yeah they want us to learn how to dex his sp2. Everything about this fight is designed to teach us that. He special locks to prevent the infinite baiting of sp1s so we have to interact with the sp2. They dont want us to get rid of all his furies so we have to keep buffs on him. Then you better learn to dex the sp2 or youre dead.

Arcade: : "I HATE fighting arcade! Why would they make him the boss?!" Yeah buddy that's the reason why he's the boss. So you can learn how to fight him. The fight is designed for you to learn how to fight arcade AND manage his tokens

Void: they want us to be aggressive and learn to better manage his debuffs and timer

Havok: this one is a slight outlier. They want us to manage his debuffs and detonation more actively instead of just keeping a permanent armor up the whole fight and not thinking about it but there's hardly a situation in game I can think of where practice with this specific set of nodes would help.

Nefaria: I cant remmeber the nodes but they wanted us to basically manage his overcharge and learn to effectively dex his specials.

Adam: the ai was too garbage for this to work but they really wanted us go get better at fighting Adam and learning his specials and mechanics.

Keep in mind we technically have infinite tries at these in their time period. We have tailored made fights to train against these champs. Instead of b*itching why dont you try and actually learn.

If youre already good at what the fight is designed for then congratulations you can do it with way less time or energy spent but if you arent youre going to do it over and over again until you get good at it.

This was slightly aggressive but tje comments on seatins video specifically really ticked me off

Comments

ahmynuts

Kabam who had never thought of any of that:

PocketSand

My fingers hurt!

Searmenis

Yeah, no, in this particular 3rd fight, you cannot get any good by repeat. AI is pathetic. Most of the comments in Seatin s video, I get there to see what you meant, are legit.

ahmynuts

https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/comment/2925602#Comment_2925602

This has nothing to do with any of the points i was actually making but thank you for you contribution

Herbal_Taxman

OP, it’s a good point overall.

I think the EoP vs Coliseum comparison is natural, especially since they are just recycling old fight designs so far. But, personally, I find Coliseum overall much less satisfying for some reason.

With EoP, it felt more like you were trying to unlock a fight and once you got it, there was some satisfaction. With Coliseum, even if I have a good run of 8-10 bars, it’s like…? “Great, I saved myself some energy, or some time, or some of the blue alliance tickets (don’t even know where they come from…)”

There’s just some weird lack of payoff and I bring this up because I think it’s contributing to the overall lack of satisfaction and the broad frustration you referenced in your post.

Maybe I’ll feel differently when they release ten ramp up champs in a row and we have different / better attacking options that make it feel as if the stakes are rising or the fight gets more entertaining as it drags on. Right now it’s just dragging. Doing six or eight bars with Kushala against Xbones is like watching paint dry.

ahmynuts

https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/comment/2925606#Comment_2925606

It's definitely different from eop and way different feeling. Whether that's a good or bad thing I cant exactly say. Im not sure what they can do better to give us the dopamine hit payoff in coliseum.

I just wanted to point out that these very clearly are not slapped together or fights with 0 thought put into them. It's just that once again. The AI is holding everything back

Sean0333

The community: Begs for the ccp map to be made available for the public.

Kabam: creates an gamemode that allows you to infinitely fight a champ, therefore the ability to practice against the champ. They add nodes that force you to practice against the most difficult part of the champ's kit.

the community: This is too hard and repetitive :(

GasLighterMan69

lower the 25 energy cost and maybe people would be ok dying over and over to crossbones. It’s not free infinite retry’s when you have a ridiculous 25 energy cost

Dlowonline

Are you getting good scores vs arcade and who are you using. The chip damage and wonky ai trying to bait heavies 1/2 the fight isn’t a good challenge it’s just annoying. This isn’t designed to challenge players it’s designed to milk money for shortcut podium rank ups lets get real here

SirGamesBond

Endgame hard fights came, followed by complaints. Nothing surprising, not one bit.

But.

I just don't like the design of coliseum. It's way too much grind. AllyColiseum sucks hard. 1 day to grind 3 podiums. The devs are actually mental for thinking that this kind of engagement ask is normal for a mobile game. I can do solo coliseum on a Sunday afternoon, I'm fine with it, I dont have to agree with it.

But what with the AC, it's abnormal. Cheap trick to monetize podiums.

SirGamesBond

Looks like this thread has been shadow muted.

BigPoppaCBONE

https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/comment/2925609#Comment_2925609

This isn't even kinda in the same universe as the CCP map. You may be clinically insane if you thought it was.