What is the point of class advantage recently?

I feel like alot of the new (and newly buffed) champs miss the point of class advantages being more than "more/less attack"

Why are some cosmics immune to nullify? thats the mystic thing. they SHOULD lose to that.

what is the point of purify/cleanse if so many new science characters have "severe" debuffs.

what is the point of so many cosmics having armor breaks when Kabam buffs champions to completely ignore them?

idk im coming back to the game after a few years of not playing and it confuses me a bit.

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StuntzTheCMMKid

I asked the same thing a while ago.

It's because of Battlegrounds

Seeing how unreliable class "advantage" has become in some cases has been VERY frustrating and utterly ridiculous.

Armor breaks are a staple ability in the Cosmic class, yet some disadvantaged Tech champs are being made and buffed to be armor break immune. That or some type of physical resistance so they can't be easliy nuked......by...…CLASS.....ADVANTAGE.

CheeseMaster482

They do it so they can release a broken defender and then sell a perfect counter to them.

StuntzTheCMMKid

https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/comment/2941482#Comment_2941482

But wouldn't the "counter" have to be an advantage? Might as well not even make a broken defender.

Corkscrew

https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/comment/2941484#Comment_2941484

The broken defender is a product. Create a new meta defender that spenders can whale out on. Spenders can acquire and rank the defender and for a short period of time have an advantage. But this creates a problem. After a while everyone puts that meta defender in their deck/defense, and the spender is no longer at an advantage because they can't deal with it either.

So, let's sell the solution (product) to this problem. An attack counter. A spender can acquire and rank-up before others can. Again, for a short period of time, they are at an advantage.

This is the process to keep a cycle of champ acquisition. If old abilities countered new ones, then there would be less incentive for champ acquisition.

Not directly related but probably intertwined is the tendency for random B/C tier champs being amazing because Kabam have more creative license to stray from their established comic counterpart's power set.

peixemacaco

https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/413154/what-is-the-point-of-class-advantage-recently

Tell this to Human Torch 😁

Case closed

Thanks Kabam 🥳

Squidopus

They do it so that you don’t just walk over any fight by clicking the champ with Class Advantage and calling it a day. Truth is that for a defender to be worth their salt, they need to not collapse at the mere idea of facing 1/6 of the roster. They want you to actually have to consider matchups at a level beyond just the basic class wheel, and that requires throwing some curveballs in the design process.

You also have to realize that, as annoying as these anti-class wheel abilities may seem sometimes, they almost never actually overturn class relationships; they just restrict the options. Galan being Nullify Immune doesn’t mean that the Mystic class is the worst option against him, it just means some Mystics aren’t good. The best options against him are overwhelmingly Mystics, just those that index in Power Gain and Neutralize class abilities rather than Nullify. Similarly, Leader having Severe Debuffs doesn’t change the fact that he still loses hardest to Skill champions. His abilities suffer significant downgrades while fighting at class disadvantage, and he still loses heavily against Skill abilities like Tranquilize, Defensive Ability Accuracy Reduction, and Endurance. Again, he’s just asking you to not mindlessly see a Debuff-spamming Science, auto-click Kingpin, and proceed to mash attacks until you win.