This Season of BG is a Whale Joke

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This is very true but there are many great ideas that kabam could try for some reason they just ignore everything and do their own thing that'll end up being horrible

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But the situation BG is right now is not a feature kabam intended because you can see how they are experimenting even though it's stupid..

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houndogακι

I don't see a terrible unplayable meta i'm not even elder and i'm in Gc from first week.Just brute force the fights don't care for your health,only for timing

If you fight in almost same rosters then is what we say skill issue or no patience.

Slonerko

I wish this forum had a feature where one could mute certain words. I don't think I've ever read the words "skill issue" in a post on here in the context of helpful advice. It's always just a lazy and petty insult—not to mention a way of asserting some imaginary status over a player that's struggling.

Slonerko

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One extraordinarily easy thing that could improve the mode is increasing the Victory Shield limit in the Essentia store. There really doesn't need to be a limit at all. Just let players spend their resources if they have them! It would be such a simple way to mitigate burnout.

Slonerko

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Thank you! I had no idea. I still need to switch back and forth to unlock masteries, but this actually helps a lot.

MANBEARPIG2

I can attest that I have an underdeveloped roster with even r2s in my battlegrounds deck (due to not playing this game for 6 years) and that I just made gladiator circuit with a 7 fight win streak. It’s definitely a skill issue.

https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/comment/2954589#Comment_2954589

Remember you also need to spend units for that 💀

https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/comment/2954559#Comment_2954559

This is pretty spot on with what a lot of people are saying, but my gut feeling tells me the devs don't want this, but the financial department want it 🥀

FarmBeard

This is the second season of Whale Appreciation, and it’s again a joke for trying to progress; when you’re running a handful of R4’s at best and you’re facing full maxed ascended R4 and R5 rosters, it’s a slap in the face that a game with SO MANY Node choices is reduced to catering to pay-to-win schlock. No skill involved, simply the better roster wins. Up until the past season, I was consistently making it to GC, even made it up to Gamma once, and now I can’t progress past Diamond because I refuse to level champs I will never use outside of BG’s (Onslaught, Serpent, Spider-woman), and because the gap is an ocean at this point and Kabam refuses to do anything about the vast disparagement in matchmaking, or the multiple cheaters.

And before the apologists come for me in follow up comments; shut the hell up - some of us are casual players who love this game and don’t want to constantly be dumping money into this game in order to progress. I stopped spending here and there after the Rebalance Program was shut down, because it became clear then more than ever that unless you’re dumping hundreds of dollars into this game, you don’t matter as a part of the player base.

YodaKaj

I feel for a ban wave of cheaters in BGs. Can we get one?

KingRebel87

I’m Elder and I have r5’s and r4’s, I just hate BGs as a game mode all together. I never liked it, this meta just makes me hate it even more. Having to use rank materials on Champs I would never use annoys the hell out of me, would rather grind arenas and wait for the 5th Blade piece to become available for the 2500 units. Im all for challenges to earn certain champs, but forcing ppl into a game mode like this is insane. Congratulations to those who end up getting through it and getting the final piece from BGs, but to keep my own frustration with this game and game mode to a minimum, I would rather spend the 2500 units

https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/comment/2954780#Comment_2954780

Casual player, then play casually.

altavista

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I actually question this logic about "increased revenue." How does this result in increased revenue?

In VTs, what do Whales need to spend money on, victory shields? They do not have to spend any money to get through VT due to the fact that their roster is significantly more powerful than the opponent most of the time, regardless of 'experimentations'.
Could they spend to go higher in GCs? Maybe, but what exactly are they spending money on to do that, if they already have all the top champions ranked up? Are Whales spending money in BGs because they want to earn more radiance to get more rank up materials, or do they already buy rank up materials outright without needing BGs anyways? Getting radiance for Magik is the only thing they can't outright buy already.

"Whale friendly" BG changes really only encourages Whales to maintain their spend (based on customer satisfaction), rather than requiring Whales to increase their spend.

So in essence: Kabam's BG experimentations:

Pisses off FTP and low spend players from spending money both within BGs, and on improving their roster for BGs. That's a (small) loss in revenue
Makes Whales happy, but doesn't require them to increase their spend to win in BGs. That is a no change in revenue.

Net result: Small loss in revenue, and large negative to customer satisfaction.

BringPopcorn

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You have to spend to be a customer. F2P are not customers.

Buttehrs

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SStopped Reading when you said you'd never use onslaught, serpent and spiderwoman outside of bgs. They are terrific questing and useful in every single place in the contest.

Titan_Ruler_IV

It definitely wasn't fun but I managed to get to GC.

I'm definitely taking a break next season as BG has become boring.

I thought I saw the current piece for BG is already in the Essentia store.

This would help if you don't want to grind.

It's your time or your money.

Lasher

That's on you. I don't have fomo for stellar champs so I'm not touching BG's for the foreseeable future.

Found this guy in a stream close to 100 points, no recoils masteries.

You guys just like to whine.

domz56

Yes, the dude has 31k prestige. We were talking about ftp players with mid tier valiant rosters who have a chance at GC but the grind is just so unbelievably long in a skilless season, where we can't afford recoils. Personally I have 24k prestige, and I still have 6 r2s, 1 r5, 8 r4s, in bgs deck, obviously I am underlevelled, but I am diamond 1 atm, and there is a chance i can get GC. The people who get shafted the most are between 24 to 27k prestige, ftp with no recoils, good enough roster where the goal is possible but not a roster competitive enough to get through the VT without immense grinding and luck, even with higher skill than opponents.

https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/comment/2954980#Comment_2954980

Man, without going into deep, im gonna say that 27k prestige is not endgame prestige atm.

This dude is 100% f2p, he had r3 champs in his deck. No legend titles. No recoils.

SF champs are geared towards endgamers, Or who are close to the end game territory.

Well sad to say, but it's gonna be a tough ride for you. But all the best

-x-x-

And stop (not you) calling everyone whales. There are much more developed f2p players account out there. Anyone with 3 r5s or less is either f2p or mild spender.

They have worked on their accounts for years. They have the skill of building thier account.

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BringPopcorn

You are doing everything in your power to be where you are. A lot of people just see R5s even 2 or 3 and start pointing fingers and calling whales.

Seen a lot of posts lately calling themselves developed rosters even if their prestige is not and end game players even if they are not even Elder. They autotically blame everything else instead of working to improve.