Quake Stealth Nerf, why?
LoPresti
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Is no one going to mention the stealth nerf that happened to Quake with the recent big update? It seems that Willpower is now triggered by Concussions. It's taking me close to 3 minutes now to take on minibosses with her if they have the Willpower mastery unlocked (forced to take more unnecessary block damage) and sometimes even resulting in a time out. She's massively gimped in AW attack now because of this.
This is worse than before she got fixed for her concussions to deal proper damage. I feel bad for all the players that rank 5 her as a 5 star.
This is worse than before she got fixed for her concussions to deal proper damage. I feel bad for all the players that rank 5 her as a 5 star.
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But concussion is suppposed to stop abilities from triggering?
I don’t think willpower counts as an ability, concussion affects different masteries differently. For example, it stops parry because parry applies a stun to the opponent. But willpower is a mastery that applies an effect directly to the champion, so it isn’t affected by ability accuracy.
Just think about greater strength for example. Concussion doesn’t affect whether this mastery still applies it’s attack bonus. Concussion doesn’t affect liquid courage and whether it adds its attack bonus. Concussion doesn’t affect whether dexterity mastery still lets you evade projectiles.
I think kabam have just decided to change it or maybe it was a bug that concussion didn’t trigger willpower.
But masteries are not abilities, at least not willpower
After her update she applies a concussion debuff that lasts while she is charging her heavy.
I believe it should be a passive thing and not a debuff
It's new since the latest patch, because before this patch it didn't take me 3 minutes to kill a miniboss when playing Quake perfectly.
I don’t think that’s the issue here
It was probably set to how it was supposed to be since concussion was broke to begin with.
hmmmmmmmmm....... That might also be the problem, maybe it's not the willpower then. So concussion damage is just broken again
She was a great bosskiller before this patch. Topleft and bottomright miniboss are insanely easy with her, doesn't matter who's up there. Usually Dormammu or whatever with power gain + MD, who will cause problems for most champs except Quake. But now she's also useless there. I used to be able to bring that boss down in about 4-5 cycles. Now it takes at least 15.
It was working after the fix in December, but since the last patch it's not working properly anymore.
Regarding Quake: originally she applied an invisible concussion debuff on the opponent and that's how she worked for more than 1 year. Then when they finally fixed her aftershock damage, they also made concussion show up as a debuff icon which did not trigger willpower. Then, sometime later they changed her heavy attack concussion to count as a debuff which triggers willpower and nullifies a lot of her damage if opponent has wp
Can someone check if it acts as a "true" active debuff i.e. if it activates on the debuff immune rhino in RttL?
Even with that immunity he is still broken since he was released. He is only immune to concussion and not overall ability accuracy modifications
There's a 5 star R5 Quake??.......
Even without the concussion debuff on enemy, she can still evade so the effects of the concussion debuff are there without the debuff itself present
The confusing part is that IMMUNE callout does happen suddenly in the middle of the fight and a few times after that while beginning to charge her heavy
Note: First "immune" im the image is due to parry and the second one due to charging her heavy
So, what exactly is Quake's heavy charging concussion? Is it a debuff? Is it not a debuff? Or do the character designers like quantum mechanics so it's both a debuff and not a debuff?
Since quake seems to function almost the same without the concussion icon on the opponent, my question is whether that icon has any function other than serving as a visual aid (and triggering wp) while charging her heavy and keep her ability description correct:
"While Heavy Attack Charging
•Inflicts Concussion, reducing..."
One way to find out if she performs exactly the same without her concussion "debuff" is seeing if she can stop a debuff immune Mephisto/Ultron's regen while charging her heavy but I guess no one can verify that
RIP quake 💀