That Iceman

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  • DizzyDizzy Member Posts: 237 ★★
    It was a challenge for my 4* 4/40 champs
    DoctorJ wrote: »
    Most of you whining also arent seeing Dave offered you a shot at 4* Iceman. But yeah doesnt fit the narrative so ignore that why dont ya.

    This is actually a really good point that frankly, I missed too. I duped my Iceman because of this, and in an alternate universe he could have picked a stun immune + bane + mesmerize Colossus that would have me much less happy right now.

  • shchong2shchong2 Member Posts: 2,419 ★★★★
    edited March 2018
    That Crystal deserves better champs than raccoon, venom and antman and I don't like DDD so much anymore!!
    The choices of champs in the crystal is pretty disappointing. Don't get me wrong, it is a free reward (but not that free anymore if we need to spend a lot of revive & potion), I'm just saying, even if they don't want to include too many top champs, at least make it comparable like normal 4* basic pool crystal choices

    Next Boss rush, 4* Boss Rush Crystal choices =
    1) Carnage???
    2) Sentry???
    3) Spider-Gwen???
    4) Groot???
    5) Hulkbuster???
    6) Falcon???
    7) Deadpool X-Force???
    8) Kamala Khan???

    OMG ...
  • Sakic19Sakic19 Member Posts: 98
    A duped 4* Dr. Voodoo or a max signature ability Daredevil (Original). Works everytime on Iceman!! :0) If you are one of those who depend on bleed or poison all the time to do the work, you need to work on some different skills if you want to not have issues with Iceman. I know he crushed me before I strenghtend my roster and learned how to exploit Iceman’s weakness, and that is evade his specials with DD or power control with Dr. Voodoo.
  • Spurgeon14Spurgeon14 Member Posts: 1,665 ★★★★
    That was a cheap shot, Dorky.
    Dexman1349 wrote: »
    A few options I've seen so far for Iceman:

    Stark Spidey. Class advantage, can evade the specials.
    Rogue. Reduced coldsnap duration, health steal, power steal, buff steal
    Red Hulk. I don't know his mechanics because I don't have him, but I've seen others that say he's good
    Dr Voodoo. Regen through initial coldsnap, power control
    Quake. If played exclusively with her heavy attack, Ice won't ever gain power
    Wolverine & X23. Strong regen

    I like how I've been playing for 2+ years and dont have any of these champs as 4* or 5*. Just as I don't have a Mephisto counter. In this game, if you have the right champs you are in. If not....who cares, right? It doesn't take skill to have the right champs. Just saying
  • ImranImran Member Posts: 587 ★★★
    Dexman1349 wrote: »
    A few options I've seen so far for Iceman:

    Stark Spidey. Class advantage, can evade the specials.
    Rogue. Reduced coldsnap duration, health steal, power steal, buff steal
    Red Hulk. I don't know his mechanics because I don't have him, but I've seen others that say he's good
    Dr Voodoo. Regen through initial coldsnap, power control
    Quake. If played exclusively with her heavy attack, Ice won't ever gain power
    Wolverine & X23. Strong regen

    U didn't mention about magic. I one shot him with magic. long fight though for safeguard, 178 hits.
  • LeNoirFaineantLeNoirFaineant Member Posts: 8,675 ★★★★★
    If you can evade his specials, literally any champ can beat him as long as they have enough health to get through the initial cold snap. If you can't evade his specials use a power control champ. But this isn't one of those fights where you have to have the right champ.
  • WildpantsWildpants Member Posts: 148
    It was a challenge for my 4* 4/40 champs
    Iceman is the best champion you can pull from the reward crystal so Dave's pick is actually the best. Be grateful.
  • ImranImran Member Posts: 587 ★★★
    Wildpants wrote: »
    Iceman is the best champion you can pull from the reward crystal so Dave's pick is actually the best. Be grateful.

    Actually People not complaining about the champ. They are complaining about safeguard on iceman. As he is completely immune to lots of secondary damage.
  • ContestOfNoobsContestOfNoobs Member Posts: 1,778 ★★★★★
    Wildpants wrote: »
    Iceman is the best champion you can pull from the reward crystal so Dave's pick is actually the best. Be grateful.

    what does community want?

    challenges or more easier content they can steam roll?

    I swear the mcoc is abunch of people who just want everything handed to them.

    @Spurgeo14

    you been playing 2+ years?

    u do know all those champs like had a basic arena where u could get them right?
    Just makes me think what have u been doing for 2+ years?

    have you seen how much progression seatin's FTP account has progressed?
    so its possible.

    also there was a thing called save for blade on his 2nd time around,and if u was smart u would of saved for chance for 5* stark when he came around for 2nd time
  • rockykostonrockykoston Member Posts: 1,505 ★★★★
    I mentioned this in my original post. It's not just about get good, or this is for higher tier, I cleared all other champs with minimal items except Iceman.

    That coldsnap is just unfair along with safeguard.

    Ofcourse the challenge can be made far worse with nodes like mesmerize or bane or Permanent degen.

    How would you like degen 100% of health in 30 seconds + coldsnap , could you survive it?

    When it gets to damage like this, the game is less about skill and more about what you have, which is where I'm surprised with Dave since he creates content to teach ppl how to get good at the game.

    But it doesn't matter, one day I'll have those 5/50 champs and I won't be dying with this pesky coldsnap.
  • Sac123_Sac123_ Member Posts: 258
    That was a cheap shot, Dorky.
    Dude I haven't gotten past mephisto that dues wolfe pretty made it too where if you don't have ocean your screwed. I'm a really good player so it's not my skills. I hope through the first two champs without losing much health and get roadblocked by mephisto
  • A_Noob_Is1A_Noob_Is1 Member Posts: 762 ★★
    It was a challenge for my 4* 4/40 champs
    Duped ultron works, but he is still a challenge
  • Il_JooOIl_JooO Member Posts: 484 ★★
    That was a cheap shot, Dorky.
    5* Ultron rank 4, easy peasy
  • J33PTHINGJ33PTHING Member Posts: 29
    My 4* 5/50 GR took care of him easily. By the time coldsnap was over, I had a few judgements placed and was able to basically regen back all of my health.
  • Jh_DezJh_Dez Member Posts: 1,307 ★★★
    You can use anyone to beat iceman except skill champs
    Use a lot of health boosts to survive the cold snap
    Then play smart (don't let him hit your block a lot else you'll die from bl
  • Jh_DezJh_Dez Member Posts: 1,307 ★★★
    Be more angry that after you beat the quest you get antman from the crystal
    I mean cmon the person who chose antman is quite ......
  • raffsterraffster Member Posts: 1,071 ★★★
    That Crystal deserves better champs than raccoon, venom and antman and I don't like DDD so much anymore!!
    chev327fox wrote: »
    I am not trying to be a jerk when I say this... that Boss Rush is for the top of the top players (really late game huge 5* roster type players). It just isn't for us who are locked at 4/40 4*s (or in my case a single 5/50 Star lord and the rest 4/40s).

    I am sure if I wanted to really grind it out and revive a lot i could do it... I am just not sure it is worth the aggravation (as you are finding out too).

    I am nowhere close to being even bottom of the top player and my fighting skills aren't exactly "top notch" but got through that boss rush with just 3 team revives total.

    But it will be very difficult if you don't have at least 5 x R5 4*s and at least one that can counter Iceman's coldsnap. I used maxed out 4* Mephisto on Iceman and wasn't really THAT bad as many have said it was.
  • Spurgeon14Spurgeon14 Member Posts: 1,665 ★★★★
    That was a cheap shot, Dorky.
    Wildpants wrote: »
    Iceman is the best champion you can pull from the reward crystal so Dave's pick is actually the best. Be grateful.

    what does community want?

    challenges or more easier content they can steam roll?

    I swear the mcoc is abunch of people who just want everything handed to them.

    @Spurgeo14

    you been playing 2+ years?

    u do know all those champs like had a basic arena where u could get them right?
    Just makes me think what have u been doing for 2+ years?

    have you seen how much progression seatin's FTP account has progressed?
    so its possible.

    also there was a thing called save for blade on his 2nd time around,and if u was smart u would of saved for chance for 5* stark when he came around for 2nd time

    @ContestOfNoobs

    I've been playing the game almost daily for 2+ years, but I have a life outside the game. I have a job and family and other priorities outside this game, believe it or not. I have definitely put time into the game, but have not been so addicted to waste hours upon hours every single day and neglect my real life in order to win specific champs in arena. What have you been doing for 2+ years?
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  • GreywardenGreywarden Member Posts: 843 ★★★★
    Not every "challenge" is meant to be completed by every single player, hence the title of challenge.
    People with limited rosters can't really complain that they don't have a good enough roster to complete everything or else this game would be too easy. Of course there is luck involved when it comes to who you get out of crystals, but if you're not getting enough crystals then those chances go way down.
    Some people can play more than others or are just more skilled. Some people buy every offer and just aren't that good, it's the reality of this game.
    Complaining is not going to kill Iceman.....having a champ with enough health to live through coldsnap and playing well will kill iceman.
  • Ajjohnsbb8Ajjohnsbb8 Member Posts: 191
    I breezed through it with my 4k pi champs
    What champs did you guys use on Iceman to breeze through his coldsnap?
    I fought fire with fire, or in this case Ice with Ice. I used my 4/40 iceman
  • rockykostonrockykoston Member Posts: 1,505 ★★★★
    Spurgeo14 wrote: »
    Wildpants wrote: »
    Iceman is the best champion you can pull from the reward crystal so Dave's pick is actually the best. Be grateful.

    what does community want?

    challenges or more easier content they can steam roll?

    I swear the mcoc is abunch of people who just want everything handed to them.

    @Spurgeo14

    you been playing 2+ years?

    u do know all those champs like had a basic arena where u could get them right?
    Just makes me think what have u been doing for 2+ years?

    have you seen how much progression seatin's FTP account has progressed?
    so its possible.

    also there was a thing called save for blade on his 2nd time around,and if u was smart u would of saved for chance for 5* stark when he came around for 2nd time

    @ContestOfNoobs

    I've been playing the game almost daily for 2+ years, but I have a life outside the game. I have a job and family and other priorities outside this game, believe it or not. I have definitely put time into the game, but have not been so addicted to waste hours upon hours every single day and neglect my real life in order to win specific champs in arena. What have you been doing for 2+ years?

    Slow and intense Burn. lol

    I agree people have different priorities and 2 years is a long time to be somewhere in a game. I totally understand because I am doing some arena grind that are maybe in the range of 2-3.5 mil, but it get really a burden if the score goes more than that. Got a newborn to take care of as well.

    I am planning to go for Medusa/Crossbones/Mephisto in upcoming arenas and really hope the cutoffs are below 4.5 mil. Anyone got ideas for those cutoffs? (based on experience)
  • rockykostonrockykoston Member Posts: 1,505 ★★★★
    Greywarden wrote: »
    Not every "challenge" is meant to be completed by every single player, hence the title of challenge.
    People with limited rosters can't really complain that they don't have a good enough roster to complete everything or else this game would be too easy. Of course there is luck involved when it comes to who you get out of crystals, but if you're not getting enough crystals then those chances go way down.
    Some people can play more than others or are just more skilled. Some people buy every offer and just aren't that good, it's the reality of this game.
    Complaining is not going to kill Iceman.....having a champ with enough health to live through coldsnap and playing well will kill iceman.

    I agree with every word you said, but I did kill him. Just that the fight wasn't fun at all or challenging.

    Due to the champs I have, it bordered on annoying. I am sure everyone was at such a level sometime. 2 months ago I was struggling to complete Master quests, now I do them without any items.
  • VoluntarisVoluntaris Member Posts: 1,198 ★★★
    I breezed through it with my 4k pi champs
    Spurgeo14 wrote: »
    Dexman1349 wrote: »
    A few options I've seen so far for Iceman:

    Stark Spidey. Class advantage, can evade the specials.
    Rogue. Reduced coldsnap duration, health steal, power steal, buff steal
    Red Hulk. I don't know his mechanics because I don't have him, but I've seen others that say he's good
    Dr Voodoo. Regen through initial coldsnap, power control
    Quake. If played exclusively with her heavy attack, Ice won't ever gain power
    Wolverine & X23. Strong regen

    I like how I've been playing for 2+ years and dont have any of these champs as 4* or 5*. Just as I don't have a Mephisto counter. In this game, if you have the right champs you are in. If not....who cares, right? It doesn't take skill to have the right champs. Just saying

    I like how any champ that can survive the initial coldsnap (which many many can, or even just throw a 30 unit health boost on), can be used to beat the last iceman.

    Just takes skill.
  • RocerRocer Member Posts: 3
    I breezed through it with my 4k pi champs
    I had trouble with the ice phoenix, so I went to the arena, earn some units and got some revives and clear her. Got my rewards and no complaining. If you really want to beat Iceman that’s what you do
  • mum_m2mum_m2 Member Posts: 1,776 ★★★★
    I used cable and just heavied him all day. after coldsnap expired he was cake.
  • Simmons253Simmons253 Member Posts: 40
    Ant-Man was my only frustrating opponent died multiple times. Iceman was easy with my 5* R2 duped Rulk and a 20% boost.
  • StrStr Member Posts: 547 ★★
    That was a cheap shot, Dorky.
    Loved the boss rush except that last iceman. Coldsnap was insane. Loved the concept though and it was a nice challenge. Best bit was linking to specific people in the community. Its nice to see events like this for end game. I'd like this event to have health similar to lab of legends and have a bump in rewards.lets see 6* shards, t2 alpha and a 5* class awakening gem.

    Thanks to all who suggested those nodes and thanks to kabam for making it.
  • StrStr Member Posts: 547 ★★
    That was a cheap shot, Dorky.
    PureRage13 wrote: »
    If you play well with Stark Spidey then it's a very doable fight. 1% of this health is still about 1k damage and Spidey crits a lot with 10 poise charges. I died once with Spidey (slipped up on an L1) and finished up with Ghost Rider. Both 4 star 5/50 champs.

    No items used to complete the challenge accept a health and champion boost before starting.

    The crystal is a joke.

    Similar to modok boss really but better 5* and 4* rewards for 15-20 minutes of effort. Nicer if it refreshed weekly.
  • Deadbyrd9Deadbyrd9 Member Posts: 3,469 ★★★★
    It’s a challenge. Not a walkthrough. I love icemans coldsnap and ice Phoenix. Starting the fight with less health means no room for errors. I think it’s a great champ to have in this quest. Should all challengers beat every challenge out there? No. There’s always some that will fail that’s just how a challenge works. You get better so you can beat it the next time if you can’t beat it now.
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