Alliance Quest Miniboss and Sentinel Refresh - April 2018 - Discussion Thread [Updated April 13]

Summoners,

We've just announced a small refresh of Alliance Quests that will start April 2nd. This will include new Minibosses, and a farewell to our Symbioid friends!

Read all about it, then ask your questions!

UPDATE:
We've just posted an update in regards to your feedback on Alliance Quests. This post includes some adjustments to Sentinels and Alliance Quests that will be coming with the next series (Starting April 18th). Take a look right here: http://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/62626/upcoming-adjustments-to-alliance-quests-april-18th-2018

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Kromestone

Lol, you guys know kabam aren't gonna listen to **** unless we hold onto our wallets, so talk all you want, no one is gonna listen... They only thing they listen to is boycott.

AntHalliday81

But how are you so sure that the difficulty has gotten worse?

Granted, Bleed and Poison champions may not be as effective in Alliance Quests as they were before, but Sentinels melt at the power of a Armor Break Champion, and a lot of the new Mini-Bosses have very common counters![/quote]

To question our statements that the difficulty has gotten worse is just pure ignorance on your part and shows a complete lack of understanding to the player base,
Mordo is a harder champ to fight than all the current minibosses on Map4, Nightcrawler is IMO way too overpowered and shouldn't even be considered as a miniboss option and finally Sentinals are much harder to fight than Symbioids, especially since they have high defence and are immune to bleed and poison.
This hairbrained update needs to go in the trash where it belongs and a complete rethink by your team is in order, maybe get more feedback from the community on what updates and changes to make

xxyanarxx

Classic Kabam. Always brings new features which are definetely not wanted and confirmed by the community. I am already extremely bored of 5 days (3 days is enough in my opinion) Alliance Quest and now with even harder heros it will be causeless to play it. Only the thing keeps me in this game is my friends in the alliance. Game is becoming boring and boring every passing day because of your sudden changes on the game. One day you are maxing out 5 star and suddenly 6 stars appears on the game. A person from Kabam decides to nerf a hero and it gets nerfed next day without even asking to community. I am feeling as they are coming to the end of road for this game. Kabam was much better before Netmarble. I have 0 trust for them in the future.

General_Vis

As soon as Sentinels were introduced with separate classes I think it was obvious they would end up replacing Symbiotes.

I would also agree that the minibosses have got a bit stale and we could do with a shake-up.

However, the main issue is why do his now mid-season? I think everyone is expecting changes for next AQ season and if these changes came into force then I don’t think the complaints would be as bad, but as things stand it’s a fairly significant change with no change to rewards.

As for the new minibosses:

Morningstar will require bleed immune champs, or possibly ability reduction champs. At least with Rhino, Mordo and Cable you can arguably pick and choose who to bring but MS really limits your options.

Nightcrawler is still broken and randomly stops switching modes mid-block. It feels similar to when Spidey was map 6 miniboss with the evade bug and Kabam were aware of it but rejected calls to remove him until it was fixed.

Void should be interesting but the unblockable finale is going to be a big change. Again if they did this next season it wouldn’t be such a big deal.

black0sheep

@roastedbagel all the community adressed the same problems: sentinel are harder to fight, AQ rewards need to be updated and the minibosses are harder to fight. Dude these problems were allready posted by a few people. Should I post the same problem? Your a smart one, aren’t ya!! I focused on a smaller problem that can be easily fixed with some rankdown tickets and that can benefit all of us. Why the Rankdown tickets? You ask. Not all of us grind the f...ing arena 5 hours a day. We also have jobs and also a life outside the MCOC Univers. We are limited on Gold by the faults of the game. Having some rankdown tickets will assure that we can rank down some mutant or whatever champs and receive the resources to rank up your beloved Medusa(for example).
I plead my case.

GroundedWisdom

If they gave the means to swap Resources everytime they made a change that is intended to be a challenge, everyone would be using the most efficient Champs......and no one would grow or work towards anything.

Corpsman

How about updating your gold system or daily and alliance quest? They have been the same trash rewards for as long as I can remember. Guess that wouldn’t put money in your pocket so you could care less about them. This companies greed is killing what was a good game. Don’t spend on this bs, plenty of other games that are not near as ignorant to their player base to spend on.

SomeoneElse

It is no surprise that they would boost the difficulty without increasing the rewards. They do this all the time. These decisions do not seem to be planned very well at all. We can only wait and see how powerful the Sentinels really are, but the history of this game makes me believe they will be more trouble than the rewards are worth.

I do not understand the complaints about being a “cash grab.” No one is forcing us to spend money on this game. I don’t. I refuse since they can’t or won’t fix all of the buggy gameplay. That is my choice as a consumer. How I spend my money carries a lot more weight than what I post in a forum. As long as people throw their money away, some company will be there to collect it.

GroundedWisdom

I think the whole money grab argument is something that comes up every change that comes. At the beginning of the Season, that was said about the new Bosses. We all adjusted. I think it's selling ourselves short to say that. If there's one thing I know about this community, it adapts. It really won't be long before people aren't as challenged by the change at all and are back to being bored. Lol. I agree with Someone on that point. Spending is a choice. I just don't think it's going to be the bottom line. It's challenging because it's new. Anything new people fear. If it wasn't challenging, there would be no point to mixing it up to keep it fresh. It wouldn't be fresh. Just the same Champs shuffled around. It's a funny dichotomy for Human Beings. Lol. They want change, then resist it when it comes.

Vince1976

i cant remember reading this. does anybody have a clue what green goblins enhanced special 1 means?

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Il_JooO

One question I have is about the sentinels;
since the Symbioids couldn't do the special 3 attack, is this also applied to the Sentinels as well?

Maybe this question has already been answered, however please tell me, thanks

shchong2

FPC3 wrote: »

Kabam Miike wrote: »

But how are you so sure that the difficulty has gotten worse?

Granted, Bleed and Poison champions may not be as effective in Alliance Quests as they were before, but Sentinels melt at the power of a Armor Break Champion, and a lot of the new Mini-Bosses have very common counters!

You know there's gonna be Sentinels on the Bleed and Poison paths, right? Do you have any champions who Armor Break AND are Bleed or Poison Immune?

Very good point @FPC3, and seriously, need to start considering how to bring that has Armor Break AND are Bleed or Poison Immune.

Champs that has Armor Break + Bleed Immunity =
1) King Groot?
2)
3)
4)
5)

Champs that has Armor Break + Poison Immunity =
1) Hyperion?
2) Medusa?
3) Black Bolt?
4) Ronan?
5)

Champs that has Armor Break + Bleed + Poison Double Immunity =
1) Sentinel himself?
2)
3)
4)
5)

Jh_Dez

Personally this definitely warrants rdts
My current top ranked champs are gonna be made useless
At least give a two month gap to prepare
Ranking up a new set of champs for this new difficulty in a few days is tough
This is all so sudden

SpiritOfVengeance

@Jh_Dez
Thanks for the reminder looks like im also gonna have to change my team up. Ill have to wait tho since I just invested in my 5star gwenpool.

Harry_71

Well, we have to see how it works out. You can write here what you want, it will change nothing....

Bytheway, another where you can write what you want and nothing happens:

What about Pure Skill mastery? Still waiting for the refund for rank 4 and 5....

Shame on you....really

Jh_Dez

Harry_71 wrote: »

Well, we have to see how it works out. You can write here what you want, it will change nothing....

Bytheway, another where you can write what you want and nothing happens:

What about Pure Skill mastery? Still waiting for the refund for rank 4 and 5....

Shame on you....really

Still waiting on compensation for the alliance war masteries I unlocked
The one that shows opponent class

B1gG4z

Kabam DK wrote: »

With regards to the comments about how this version of Alliance Quests will be harder, we understand where you're coming from. As with anything you're unfamiliar with, it will be definitely be harder at first. It might take a little while to get used to, but we know our summoners, and we know how quickly they learn and can get used to new content, especially content that is recurring like Alliance Quests. If this update was so inconsequential that it was as easy at the start as you all find Alliance Quests right now (after months of practice) then there would be no point in us making this update, or ANY update for that matter.

It will take some time to get accustomed to the new encounters, but refreshing recurring content is important to keep the game fresh, and exciting!

So you came out and said itwas a quick fix, a quick refresh as you are still working on the full change to AQ.

But what I don’t get is that you have said in this above quote is that at first it may seem harder but in time it will become easier. So which is it? A quick refresh or not? because you are certainly implying that it will be stopping around For a while.

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Riegel

Just have to adjust.

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TKal

Indrick781 wrote: »

I'm failing to see the difficulty "increase." Sentinels are very easy to fight. I don't think I died to one once in the Uncollected EQ. They have extremely easy to avoid specials with long recovery times.

As for the minibosses. Morningstar bring a bleed immune. Ghost Rider, Iceman, Dormammu all will make short work of her. Green Goblin bring someone with heal block. Archangel melts him. Nightcrawler bring Iceman or someone with ability accuracy reduction or Sparks or SL.

Finally for Wolverine, it isn't his bleed that makes him very good in AQ. It's his regen. You can still use him to clear paths and end up 100% health. I use him on debuff immune paths when I take them in AQ. The fights take a bit but I'm still at 100% at the end of the path. That's what makes Wolverine so useful.

Now to rewards, they really do need to be bumped up. Kabam should have tossed something in there as a "this may increase difficulty so here's some extra glory on the first few milestones" or "We've changed milestone rewards to include 1 full t1 alpha at 30m, 60m, 90m, and 125m points." This would have gone miles to justify the change, but alas here we are again with Kabam not thinking before they act. They know they will get hundreds of responses making changes that will require teams to be changed up and seemingly harder, but they don't do it. Look at the Uncollected difficulty announcement. Sure, not everyone was happy and there was some difficulty tuning before they got it right but did anyone complain about the rewards? Nope.

Sentinels are harde to fight than symbioids, that’s a fact, map 5 day 5 is much harder than Uncollectable EQ.

For the mini boss :

-NS is bugged as hell and shouldn’t even be considered a mini boss option due to that
-MS yeah, just bring an bled immune champ, another one, and you can’t attack her after he sp1 since she will have unstoppable, sp2 because of recovery time, or Heavy Attack because of recovery time
- Green Goblin, yes many option, guillotine might shine when he is here.

Map 6 AQ Void is the worst change, who are you going to pick against him ? Blade ? But you’ll need the synergie with GR, bring him, fine he is amazing for AQ. A spider man to complete the trinity ? Ok fine it works well
Who you gonna pick for AW so ? Blade is going to be essential in AQ Map 6, and others map when sentinell will (most likely) be introduce as a boss.
So what you will need to choose between bringing blade into AQ or AW ? Nice

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Jh_Dez

TKal wrote: »

Indrick781 wrote: »

I'm failing to see the difficulty "increase." Sentinels are very easy to fight. I don't think I died to one once in the Uncollected EQ. They have extremely easy to avoid specials with long recovery times.

As for the minibosses. Morningstar bring a bleed immune. Ghost Rider, Iceman, Dormammu all will make short work of her. Green Goblin bring someone with heal block. Archangel melts him. Nightcrawler bring Iceman or someone with ability accuracy reduction or Sparks or SL.

Finally for Wolverine, it isn't his bleed that makes him very good in AQ. It's his regen. You can still use him to clear paths and end up 100% health. I use him on debuff immune paths when I take them in AQ. The fights take a bit but I'm still at 100% at the end of the path. That's what makes Wolverine so useful.

Now to rewards, they really do need to be bumped up. Kabam should have tossed something in there as a "this may increase difficulty so here's some extra glory on the first few milestones" or "We've changed milestone rewards to include 1 full t1 alpha at 30m, 60m, 90m, and 125m points." This would have gone miles to justify the change, but alas here we are again with Kabam not thinking before they act. They know they will get hundreds of responses making changes that will require teams to be changed up and seemingly harder, but they don't do it. Look at the Uncollected difficulty announcement. Sure, not everyone was happy and there was some difficulty tuning before they got it right but did anyone complain about the rewards? Nope.

Sentinels are harde to fight than symbioids, that’s a fact, map 5 day 5 is much harder than Uncollectable EQ.

For the mini boss :

-NS is bugged as hell and shouldn’t even be considered a mini boss option due to that
-MS yeah, just bring an bled immune champ, another one, and you can’t attack her after he sp1 since she will have unstoppable, sp2 because of recovery time, or Heavy Attack because of recovery time
- Green Goblin, yes many option, guillotine might shine when he is here.

Map 6 AQ Void is the worst change, who are you going to pick against him ? Blade ? But you’ll need the synergie with GR, bring him, fine he is amazing for AQ. A spider man to complete the trinity ? Ok fine it works well
Who you gonna pick for AW so ? Blade is going to be essential in AQ Map 6, and others map when sentinell will (most likely) be introduce as a boss.
So what you will need to choose between bringing blade into AQ or AW ? Nice

Not everyone even has blade

Il_JooO

Il_JooO wrote: »

One question I have is about the sentinels;
since the Symbioids couldn't do the special 3 attack, is this also applied to the Sentinels as well?

Maybe this question has already been answered, however please tell me, thanks

so??? anyone?

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Vdh2008

Il_JooO wrote: »

Il_JooO wrote: »

One question I have is about the sentinels;
since the Symbioids couldn't do the special 3 attack, is this also applied to the Sentinels as well?

Maybe this question has already been answered, however please tell me, thanks

so??? anyone?

Asked and answered... AQ Sentinels will NOT have SP3

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