You can't be serious?

I get what the game is, first and formost and I enjoy and love it. With that said, you HAVE to tone down unavoidable damage in a game that you charge money for resources. You can scale the challenge, work tricky nodes but straight up unavoidable damage in a game where you charge real money for resources is unacceptable.

I for one have spent more money on this game than 10 AAA games, probably somewhere close to a thousand dollars. Stupid? Yeah, probably but I did it because I like the game but enough is enough with the cash grab. Stop screwing over your player base with BS encounters and mechanics. I'm sick of skill being second to units. I have been playing perfectly trying to finish the final parts of act 4 and I still have to spend units because skill doesn't matter and that's broken as ****.

I'll spare you the rant about Mordo, Nightcrawler and Magik and that cash grab and the argument that evade champs are broken in general not to mention champs that do damage that is unavoidable despite your class your skills and just stick to progression. Things like Starburst this nonsense in Act 4 where any special stuns ad kills me if I evade or block it is pure nonsense. Why should I have to pay for this?

I have supported this game with hundreds and even thousands of dollars of my money, why is my reward a big F you in act 4 telling me everything I learned and the skill I progressed worthless because act 4 is all about units? It's **** Kabam. Stop the unavoidable damage, remove it from the game and trust me, I'm sure I'm not the only one who feels this way.

Whats the point of becoming more powerful if when you get there the game cheats and you hit a pay wall that ignores your skill level? Whats the point of continuing?

Get your heads out of your ass and fix the game. It's not ok the way it is, I'm sorry.

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smdam38

I'll do 5.1 100%
Decent rewards and not too bad.
5.2 is a joke

Jaffacaked

If your having a hard time then your not ready, definitely max limber for that Electra, also try using bpcw, both caps, there are so many options to use now an they have made it even easier for you guys since 12.0. an no I didn't do it when pb teams were around. I did it with r4 3* an my only r3 4* mags.

Aakash

I completed act 4 long ago but started exploring it after 100% completing 5.1. Except the regenerating Maestro Act 4 is totally doable with 3*s (that magneto is hard, I have fought him recently and you would need someone who can reduce defensive ability). Even Maestro is doable with 3*s if you have the right 3*s, in my experience going in with great 3 stars is much better than going in with average 4 stars. I have never spent money on this game and Im done with Act 5.2 (only completion) even there if you just grind arena and save units/potions/revives then it's doable without spending any money.
Best of luck, you can totally do it buddy!

smdam38

5.2 is doable without spending?
What did you save up?

Rotmgmoddy

smdam38 wrote: »

5.2 is doable without spending?
What did you save up?

By "without spending", that only means "not spending money". Yes, 5.2 is definitely doable without spending money, but the chances that you may need to use potions or spend units that you have grinded from the arena to buy potions are pretty high.

I have already 100% 5.2 without spending any money, pretty satisfied really. I spent 300 units on 3 team revives to explore the final quest, since I already had a ton of free crystals and saved up potions. Didn't use any potions from 5.2.1 - 5.2.5, with an exception of 5.2.4's caltrops path where I used 3 lvl 1 revives and a few health potions. 5.2.6 I used 1 team revive and 2-3 single revives each time to explore since the Collector is pretty much impossible to kill in a single fight.

So yea, it's very much doable without money.

Speedbump

Who was your team?

smdam38

Rotmgmoddy wrote: »

smdam38 wrote: »

5.2 is doable without spending?
What did you save up?

By "without spending", that only means "not spending money". Yes, 5.2 is definitely doable without spending money, but the chances that you may need to use potions or spend units that you have grinded from the arena to buy potions are pretty high.

I have already 100% 5.2 without spending any money, pretty satisfied really. I spent 300 units on 3 team revives to explore the final quest, since I already had a ton of free crystals and saved up potions. Didn't use any potions from 5.2.1 - 5.2.5, with an exception of 5.2.4's caltrops path where I used 3 lvl 1 revives and a few health potions. 5.2.6 I used 1 team revive and 2-3 single revives each time to explore since the Collector is pretty much impossible to kill in a single fight.

So yea, it's very much doable without money.

Yeah he is literally impossible to beat without items. You did it with so few items?

Should probably youtube it since you better than anyone else in the game.

smdam38

1 team and 2-3 singles on collector? I really want to see that. You'll get a ton of views if you can show us that.

Speedbump

Yes, that would be something I'd stay up for to watch lol

Dexman1349

Best counter for thorns? Give Magneto "unavoidable" damage right back with bleed. Gwenpool will stack a half dozen bleeds in no time. Most fights with her in AQ are done in under 25 hits.

Rotmgmoddy

Speedbump wrote: »

Who was your team?

5* R4 Magik did most of the work. Other parts of my team are my 5* iron man, my 4* Winter Soldier, my 4* Thor and my 4* CAWWII (replaced with Ronan for the villians path, solely used for abomination)

I don't know, that's still 8 revives (technically, since a team revive is 5), and that's on average, not every time. The worst runs I've done cost me up to 2 team revives, those are either if I screw up completely or the collector instantly pops his special 1 as soon as he gets it. One of my runs I managed to do it with 1 team revive, while most of my runs I did it with 1 team revive and 2-4 single lvl 1 or 2 revives, those single revives used on Magik.

Gamer

Try to play slow and only akt here when she stun. Then he cant evade.

Rotmgmoddy

smdam38 wrote: »

Rotmgmoddy wrote: »

smdam38 wrote: »

5.2 is doable without spending?
What did you save up?

By "without spending", that only means "not spending money". Yes, 5.2 is definitely doable without spending money, but the chances that you may need to use potions or spend units that you have grinded from the arena to buy potions are pretty high.

I have already 100% 5.2 without spending any money, pretty satisfied really. I spent 300 units on 3 team revives to explore the final quest, since I already had a ton of free crystals and saved up potions. Didn't use any potions from 5.2.1 - 5.2.5, with an exception of 5.2.4's caltrops path where I used 3 lvl 1 revives and a few health potions. 5.2.6 I used 1 team revive and 2-3 single revives each time to explore since the Collector is pretty much impossible to kill in a single fight.

So yea, it's very much doable without money.

Yeah he is literally impossible to beat without items. You did it with so few items?

Should probably youtube it since you better than anyone else in the game.

Lol nah, I'm sure The Analyser has done it with fewer items.

Just checked, he beat the collector with a team revive and 1 single revive, and he used the team revive with guilly still up, so that's 4 revives. 4+1 = 5, he's better lol.

Mr_Platypus

Finally got around to 100% act 4 2 weeks ago, that Elektra is a pain I agree, but is easily countered with the right champs.
I used my rogue with max limber, why? Because she is able to shrug off almost any stun before the debuff symbol even appears so you don't get wrecked.
Groot would also work for the same reason and mordo is a bit hit and miss as if Elektra stuns you and launches a special attack he won't astral evade and you'll probably die.
After seeing how much you've claimed to spend without finishing act 4 I very much doubt you're even close to as skilled as you claim (I didn't spend a penny on revives/potions and 90% of units spent were on refills and I'm far from an amazing player). But on the off chance you are as good as you claim, then a 3* rogue (at a push, groot) will work perfectly fine.

Rotmgmoddy

The Collector is mostly a luck based fight rather than a skilled fight, though it still does take skill to make sure you don't get bane in the first place. Even with a power drain champ, it can only work for so long before he reduces yourability accuracy to too low a number for it to trigger.

Most of the time I just got lucky and he saves till his special 2 and 3. If he saves till later specials, that's a few extra thousand damage to him for me, which is why it's kind of luck, because if he pops his special 1 early, that's pretty much an instant KO when he is <50% health.

It's really just bane and his unblockable specials that are the problem here.

Rotmgmoddy

Mr_Platypus wrote: »

Finally got around to 100% act 4 2 weeks ago, that Elektra is a pain I agree, but is easily countered with the right champs.
I used my rogue with max limber, why? Because she is able to shrug off almost any stun before the debuff symbol even appears so you don't get wrecked.
Groot would also work for the same reason and mordo is a bit hit and miss as if Elektra stuns you and launches a special attack he won't astral evade and you'll probably die.
After seeing how much you've claimed to spend without finishing act 4 I very much doubt you're even close to as skilled as you claim (I didn't spend a penny on revives/potions and 90% of units spent were on refills and I'm far from an amazing player). But on the off chance you are as good as you claim, then a 3* rogue (at a push, groot) will work perfectly fine.

By the way, I forgot to mention, but there's a daredevil somewhere in Act 5 Chapter 1 that has the "7% chance to evade and stun opponent" node, which is the one Elektra has (it's called mesmerise I think)

Just look out for him if you are doing Act 5, and do the same strategy you just did (rogue with limber, groot with limber, or Mordo).

Congrats on exploring Act 4!

TKal

Ghriffin wrote: »

Dex, are you serious? I should run a Mordo or Groot in that chapter in act 4? That's your advice?

Maybe Mordo I guess, I didn't think about that but Groot would get pummeled either way. I'll try it. I honestly don't think it will work, how did you tackle it without a **** ton of units?

Rogue works too against that Electra

smdam38

Impossible. Collector a unit king. I'm not going down that road yet. Analyzer the best player I've ever seen.
He needed og vision and intercepted like crazy. Most don't have og vision.

Rotmgmoddy

smdam38 wrote: »

Impossible. Collector a unit king. I'm not going down that road yet. Analyzer the best player I've ever seen.
He needed og vision and intercepted like crazy. Most don't have og vision.

Unit King, fitting name to say the least haha.

Yea don't rush it, you need insane skill and luck to kill him with minimal potion usage/unit usage.

GbSarkar

Don't button mash against Elektra. Only do MM combos and you'll rarely see her evade (if at all). You don't need any special champs/mastery setup with this strategy either

P.S. Maxing limber doesn't work (unless you're using Groot/Rogue/Karnak) since most of the time, she attacks back before you can recover from the stun

smdam38

I thought elektra was pretty easy. Will have to go back and try her in act 4.
Her heavy reaches pretty far.

smdam38

Have one more lane for 5.1
And it's Nightcrawler. At least I'm done Iceman line though.

Rotmgmoddy

smdam38 wrote: »

Have one more lane for 5.1
And it's Nightcrawler. At least I'm done Iceman line though.

Good luck! Thank god he ain't on stun immune, just keep parrying and you should be fine

smdam38

I'm getting better with Nightcrawler. Iceman still sucks.