Gold crystals really?

Come on there has to be a better way! There seems to be a huge gold drought for any member over 5k prestige. Can’t we come up with something?

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DL864

I’m sorry but you are wrong. People were focusing on 5* before 6* came out the higher end content is geared towards 5*. Look at the rewards for act 5 those rewards were not so you could r5 a 4* they were to r5 a 5 star but yet the gold you are getting from act 5 does not reflect that. You can say what you want but in the end gold should be on par with difficulty level ie I should not be getting the same amount of gold for a fight in herico that I’m getting in uncollected. I don’t think the game needs gold realms I just think they need more avenues to acquire the necessary amount of gold to rank champs. So if I’m playing uncollected and fighting six star champs there should be a significant increase from fighting a 4* champs. That’s called progression.

Irohr

This guy has me dying lol. "Increased availability doesn't change the Rarity." Well done my boy, well done lol. If something becomes more available, it doesn't become less rare lol. Got it.

Chicken

Yea that part had me laughing too.

Irohr

I normally don't see what he said but someone copied what he said and I almost died laughing. Lol

GroundedWisdom

There's the literal definition of rarity, and there's the Rarity that indicates the in-game value.

Blax4ever

Irohr wrote: »

This guy has me dying lol. "Increased availability doesn't change the Rarity." Well done my boy, well done lol. If something becomes more available, it doesn't become less rare lol. Got it.

It’s called word salad, it “rarely” makes any sense

Purveyor

Who is this “we”you keep referring to in these various kabam defender posts? This is not voice of we the community I’m seeing as a large majority this month.
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We the Players.[/quote]

The we is you and kabam.

GroundedWisdom

It makes a great deal of sense if you look past what you want.

Str

Whilst i welcome the gold offer and it shows kabam has recognised there is an issue of gold, i cant help but hear seatin's voice in my head saying #milkthewhales.

Better than nothing but i dont think kabam realise the enmity this is stirring up. Please put in a sustainable solution.

GroundedWisdom

Alright I'm about done with the discussion. It's just turning into insults. If people don't want the Offer, they don't have to buy it. All I know is people have been begging for Gold and they don't want to take advantage of the ways it's available. Doesn't give much validity to the argument.

Tonedef

The mind-numbing, 100% unenjoyable arena grind is the best way to get gold. I did my time in the arena, I built up 5m gold while ranking only the best of the best my crystals gave me. I stopped the arena and a month later I’m broke AF. I don’t have time to grind arenas anymore, therefore I will be eternally gold poor. Shucks.

Plantesan

GroundedWisdom wrote: »

Alright I'm about done with the discussion. It's just turning into insults. If people don't want the Offer, they don't have to buy it. All I know is people have been begging for Gold and they don't want to take advantage of the ways it's available. Doesn't give much validity to the argument.

In this case I’m guessing the majority would prefer justifying putting units towards the energy refills for gold quest than a more-than likely 2400 gold crystal. -shrug-

Isman1998

GroundedWisdom wrote: »

Alright I'm about done with the discussion. It's just turning into insults. If people don't want the Offer, they don't have to buy it. All I know is people have been begging for Gold and they don't want to take advantage of the ways it's available. Doesn't give much validity to the argument.

Is 2400 gold a crystal really enough to you? I know you have the chance of getting 5K, 10K and 50K. But still. If I bought the deal and I wanted 1 million gold I would have to get 417 golden crystals.

Hypothetically lets say I only get 2400 gold out of 417 golden crystals which would probably happen knowing how luck works in this game. (2400x417=1,000,800) You know how many units that is? 4,170 units.

4,170 units for barely over a million gold and without the discount going on that would be 8,340 units. Now you and I both know that you ain't wasting units on that bull jive. For barely over a million gold. You can't take advantage of a terrible deal man. Don't try to damage control this.

If Kabam would introduce Uncollected golden crystals or something that guaranteed at least 50K gold a crystal then you would have a point with people not taking advantage. (50,000x417=20,850,000) The way the crystals are now it's not worth.

GroundedWisdom

Isman1998 wrote: »

GroundedWisdom wrote: »

Alright I'm about done with the discussion. It's just turning into insults. If people don't want the Offer, they don't have to buy it. All I know is people have been begging for Gold and they don't want to take advantage of the ways it's available. Doesn't give much validity to the argument.

Is 2400 gold a crystal really enough to you? I know you have the chance of getting 5K, 10K and 50K. But still. If I bought the deal and I wanted 1 million gold I would have to get 417 golden crystals.

Hypothetically lets say I only get 2400 gold out of 417 golden crystals which would probably happen knowing how luck works in this game. (2400x417=1,000,800) You know how many units that is? 4,170 units.

4,170 units for barely over a million gold and without the discount going on that would be 8,340 units. Now you and I both know that you ain't wasting units on that bull jive. For barely over a million gold. You can't take advantage of a terrible deal man. Don't try to damage control this.

If Kabam would introduce Uncollected golden crystals or something that guaranteed at least 50K gold a crystal then you would have a point with people not taking advantage. (50,000x417=20,850,000) The way the crystals are now it's not worth.

I said I was leaving but I'll respond to this. The whole point I'm making is it takes a variety of sources to replenish Gold. One Offer is not going to provide enough Gold to keep up with what people want. It's about taking advantage of as many sources as possible. It means Ranking wisely and taking time to do it. We all have to wait to Rank a Champ now and then. It's not just about the Offer. It's one Offer. Not a source for everything. However, it would add towards the balance. There are many sources of Gold, the main one being the Arena, but there are others. The unfortunate side effect of the Gold Realm is that people had easy access to large amounts of Gold, and now the expectation is to have it all the time. It takes time to build a balance, and it takes budgeting to Rank Champs and not go completely broke. I appreciate that you were respectful with your reply, which is why I answered, but I'm really out for this one. Having Gold means maintaining a balance through all the sources we can and spending wisely. If that's the Resource we need, that's the one we will have to focus on. It's not as if it doesn't exist in the game. We just can't go for broke and blame the system.

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TheeWolverine

Gold is the biggest thing needed in the game basically. Besides health and revives, but they fixed that in this newest AQ update. Insuring with sentinel robots and a extra node that you will die more often and be forced to buy. And yes it's forced when you're a die hard player in a real alliance that actually plays to win. They haven't had a gold realm since December and now with all the complaining they offer half price on a crystal that NEVER PAYS MORE THEN 2400 GOLD! Sorry Kascam but it's not gonna work no more. The players are sick of the Corporate Greed and bull sh\t ways you screw over the players with updates and never fixing them unless it's to our benefit. And if you delete this post (Lyra) then just delete my entire profile from the game too for speaking the truth!

Blax4ever

Blax4ever wrote: »

Oh no Gold thread!!!

Allow me to post some canned responses:

Ya’ll better get in that arena, and grind like I did (Won’t mention they benefitted from previous gold realms)

Welfare for Map 6

Halt your progression and don’t rank anyone up (They never say how long this should last)

Git in dat arena and grind (they never provide the necessary amount of time a player should grind, its 3hrs a day minimum)

Quit complaining or quit the game no, there is no gold problem.

Kabam has perfectly balanced the resources in the game, there are supposed to be bottlenecks.

I think that about covers it, please add on if I missed any.

Plantesan wrote: »

Blax4ever wrote: »

Oh no Gold thread!!!

Allow me to post some canned responses:

Ya’ll better get in that arena, and grind like I did (Won’t mention they benefitted from previous gold realms)

Welfare for Map 6

Halt your progression and don’t rank anyone up (They never say how long this should last)

Git in dat arena and grind (they never provide the necessary amount of time a player should grind, its 3hrs a day minimum)

Quit complaining or quit the game no, there is no gold problem.

Kabam has perfectly balanced the resources in the game, there are supposed to be bottlenecks.

I think that about covers it, please add on if I missed any.

Would “then drop to map 3” fall under ‘welfare for map 6’ ?

If they adjusted those gold crystals to only drop the top tier rates then it might be more tempting to get suckered into the deal.

Outside of that, everyone, best not to enable GW...you’ll end up getting into the vicious cycle as provided by the copied post above.

I left out “Sell your items and iso”, how could I have forgotten that one

Nick_Caine_32

GroundedWisdom wrote: »

Alright I'm about done with the discussion. It's just turning into insults. If people don't want the Offer, they don't have to buy it. All I know is people have been begging for Gold and they don't want to take advantage of the ways it's available. Doesn't give much validity to the argument.

Dude, just stop. Really. Literally everyone here fully understands the ways it’s currently available and are either already doing so or trying desperately to take advantage of them. It’s not working, hence the drought, hence the multitude of posts on here and twitter and Reddit about it. You are one of the only people who I have seen over and over and over again trying to defend it somehow, and choosing to be obtuse toward everyone and their valid comments. You have the exact same condescending tone and communication style that the worst Kabam Representatives engage the community with, and we see how well that is working. You also seem to forget that this isn’t happening in a vacuum - it’s on top of the ever growing list of issues and caused it all to come to a head. Top alliances are posting about losing members and mid tier groups are becoming retirement and a lot of them include this issue in why they’re over it. You seem to just want to be right, and maybe in your specific situation and mind you are, but that still doesn’t make your opinion applicable to others or the player base as a whole. It also doesn’t help that you feel the need to jump on any critical post and defend them like you’re on the payroll. It’s kind of sad to see really, as i think if the player base as a whole had your mentality, none of the previous fixes and gains (like the v12 fiasco) would have been addressed or fixed. I would suggest maybe you read and listen more instead of being stubborn and contrary, unless you just like that and have decided trolling is a good use of your time.

Igu4n4

1 vs 1000... must be right. (everytime).

sbb75

GroundedWisdom wrote: »

It's pretty clear really. A 3* is easier to Rank than a 4*, a 4* is easier to Rank than a 5*, etc. The whole Gold issue came when people decided to focus on 5*s after the announcement of 6*s. Which means it will take more Gold. 5*s Rank at higher costs, so it will take more Resources, and therefore more time to accumulate those Resources. Contrary to popular opinion a 5* is still as rare as a 5*, and is not the equivalent of a 4*. That might be the feeling people have, but it's still a 5* and we won't Rank them as fast as a 4*. Increased availability doesn't change the Rarity. It means we have more options to Rank at the same rate. There's the difference between a need and a want. People want to Rank faster. They can express their want for more Resources, but ultimately the data is shown for the team and they can decide what needs balanced and what doesn't. The fact of the matter is, growth slows the higher you go. Not accelerates. That's about all I have to say.

You must still be at an early part of the game or can't clear any of the more difficult content. I am maxed out on T4B, T4CC, T1A, and some will expire this month. I also have 17 unopened full T4CC crystals.
Ready??? There is not close to enough gold in the months energy sucking events to take a 5* from rank 1 to 4. If i used all the units from the monthly event on gold crystals it still would not be enough.
With your grounded wisdom, should I let me hard to come by resources expire while i get the gold? or should i stop trying to get the items in the game that are a "rarity"? or skip rifts?
Is your suggestion to spend $400 on gold crystals? Or grind Arena for 30 more hours a week?

The only thing your data hows is your wisdom is grounded, like a child gets grounded or a pilot is grounded; its stuck and not going anywhere.