Infinity Dungeons Discussion Thread

Summoners! We're really excited to announce the introduction of a brand new mode to The Contest! Introducing, Infinity Dungeons! Infinity Dungeons will be available for a limited time only, but are unlike anything you've seen in The Contest before. Read all about them here: http://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/63523/introducing-infinity-dungeons/

There's a lot of information to absorb, and you're likely going to have questions. This is the place to ask them!

If you've got a few minutes, we also suggest watching this video that explains a little bit more:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RoMbVUBvJaI

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NiteAndDae

Well done Kabam. I like the level of difficulty, I like the rewards, and even more importantly, you have brought usefulness to most of my unused roster. This is a big win in my book. Chat is a bit glitchy, but it's fine and for the most part, don't need to chat.

Nomarigerol

the tchat doesn't work, I can't speak to my teammate

Filippo1971

ok, we have 12 min to end a room, but what about from one room to another? Can I stop and continue 1h later or do I have to do it immediately, meaning that, If I'm able to do, for example, 5 rooms, I'm forced to play without interruption 1 hour?

Gwendoline

Filippo1971 wrote: »

ok, we have 12 min to end a room, but what about from one room to another? Can I stop and continue 1h later or do I have to do it immediately, meaning that, If I'm able to do, for example, 5 rooms, I'm forced to play without interruption 1 hour?

I think you have 7 minutes to decide if you’ll continue or not.

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Thestoryteller6

Kabam Miike wrote: »

Dr_Physico wrote: »

Are there different milestone "settings" and what do they depend on?
Some colleagues have the fifth (last) milestone at 7500 points, while in my account the fifth is at 5000 points (and less dust, artifacts & gold).

There are brackets to the Milestones. More experienced players will see higher Milestone thresholds than players that do not have as strong Rosters.

I know this isn't what you'd like to hear, but this is done to ensure that we maintain an appropriate level of progress for players, and not to overload newer players with Champions and Items that they cannot use yet, or are too powerful for their current progression.

Sigh. You know, I really try to be supportive because I understand you're in a tough position, but surely you must realise this makes no sense at all.

What exactly is the problem with "overloading newer players with champions and items they cannot use yet?" They would just sit in their stash and quietly expire. There's no burden to the player.

As for "being too powerful for their current progression", surely the whole point on an event like this is to allow players to get more powerful.

I mean think about it right, this is the equivalent of Kabam handing your MD 100,000 dollars, but giving you 5, not because you have fewer responsibilities, not because you work less hard or are less talented, but because he doesn't want to overburden you with all that money, or make you too rich for your current progression.

Eddiefil

Parthyzan wrote: »

Kabam Miike wrote: »

Dr_Physico wrote: »

Are there different milestone "settings" and what do they depend on?
Some colleagues have the fifth (last) milestone at 7500 points, while in my account the fifth is at 5000 points (and less dust, artifacts & gold).

There are brackets to the Milestones. More experienced players will see higher Milestone thresholds than players that do not have as strong Rosters.

I know this isn't what you'd like to hear, but this is done to ensure that we maintain an appropriate level of progress for players, and not to overload newer players with Champions and Items that they cannot use yet, or are too powerful for their current progression.

This is not fair. I'm uncollected for a long time, i have completed Nameless Guillotine, have 6* heroe, multiple R4 5*s, and not enough experienced for the last reward? I'm not allowed to get the highest possible reward with 500k rating? Are you serious? This is completely unacceptable.... This is the biggest **** what you ever done with this game....

Didn't you hear Mike? It's to prevent "brand new summoners" from getting stuff such as the 5* hero crystal, your out of luck since your "brand new" according to Kabam.

Thestoryteller6

Kabam Miike wrote: »

Dr_Physico wrote: »

Are there different milestone "settings" and what do they depend on?
Some colleagues have the fifth (last) milestone at 7500 points, while in my account the fifth is at 5000 points (and less dust, artifacts & gold).

There are brackets to the Milestones. More experienced players will see higher Milestone thresholds than players that do not have as strong Rosters.

I know this isn't what you'd like to hear, but this is done to ensure that we maintain an appropriate level of progress for players, and not to overload newer players with Champions and Items that they cannot use yet, or are too powerful for their current progression.

You know, we're not even asking for free stuff here. We're just asking for an opportunity, not a handout. How would you like to be told that you don't deserve a chance because kabam doesn't want to over burden you with responsibility, or take the risk that you will become too powerful for your progression?

Thestoryteller6

Kabam Miike wrote: »

Dr_Physico wrote: »

Are there different milestone "settings" and what do they depend on?
Some colleagues have the fifth (last) milestone at 7500 points, while in my account the fifth is at 5000 points (and less dust, artifacts & gold).

There are brackets to the Milestones. More experienced players will see higher Milestone thresholds than players that do not have as strong Rosters.

I know this isn't what you'd like to hear, but this is done to ensure that we maintain an appropriate level of progress for players, and not to overload newer players with Champions and Items that they cannot use yet, or are too powerful for their current progression.

Okay, I'm going to try to explain why I believe the majority of players find this stupid beyond belief. I don't think Kabam actually cares, because everything I've seen in the past couple of years suggests this company doesn't listen to well-meaning feedback and suggestions, resulting in multiple foul ups that everyone sees coming a mile off. But I'll give it a shot nonetheless.

This game is not just about collecting champions. We like to think it's also about skill. This is why you people nerfed the old gods in 12.0, isn't it? So you couldn't just dupe Scarlet Witch and go, hey ho, I've won the game. You made champs less powerful, and made players rely more on their skills.

Players like this feeling that skill matters. That's why the Uncollected gate is accepted by the community. To get better rewards a player must become Uncollected. That's cool, because a big part of becoming Uncollected is being skilled enough to reach the Collector. Even though the Collector fight itself is rubbish, players still need to be skilled enough in the game's meta to accumulate the needed units.

This prestige gate doesn't feel fair because you're removing skill from the equation. It's just an arbitrary number chosen for goodness knows what reason. And, it removes the opportunity for the not so good players to use skill to acquire rewards that could bump them up a notch.

Take someone like Seatin. He's so skilled in both fighting and meta that he took an account to Uncollected level in a couple of months. This is an achievement we all admire. Yet, that account would not be eligible for the final milestone. It wouldn't even be given the chance to compete.

People like to feel they have opportunities in life. They like to feel that by working hard and smart they can move up in the world. Nobody likes to have opportunities taken away because they're the wrong colour or gender or social class. Even if you never manage to take advantage of that opportunity, people still want to know that the opportunity exists and is there for them. This decision to eliminate the top milestone and take away the opportunity for players to move up feels unfair on a very deep level, even if not everyone can articulate why.

Hopefully you lot will listen. Probably not, though.

22kahle

@Kabam Miike Can you try to also take summoner level into what dark artifact crystals we can buy because I am level 42 and can only see 3 stars because I only have one 4 star because premium crystals have such a low chance at getting 4 stars. I think most people would like to see higher crystals if they have been playing for a long time and not getting good becaise of terrible odds of getting good champions.

Hiapeindex

Kabam- you have made it much easier to walk away. Uncollected, 2 r4 5*, 10 t2a waiting to be used, full t4 catalysts overflowing because of bad crystal luck and you think I’m not worthy ofobtaining a better chance at better 5* for this the celebration event for marvel Studios biggest film release to date? Its a stiff middle finger to the three and a half years of serious playing and commitment to the game and my alliance. You are the worst ambassadors that marvel could ever hope for.

Get off your high horses and let this be a level playing ground instead of having so many points of control of players progression. Already issues with
t1a availability,
t2a abailability,
rng on every crystal,
gold shortage,
prestige rank up requirements forced by alliances to chase the mythical prestige beast you guys created,
Now you start controlling what summoners that have beaten most of your hardest content because one metric doesn’t look high enough to your amazingly trained eyes?

Na I’m done. You’re absolutely despicable.

SuperFarz

I see people are getting confused. From what I see there are 2 cutoffs. One cutoff from being able to see the 5* chrystal and another cutoff for the highest milestone in dungeon. It’s just unfortunate that no information is available on the requirements. Event however is fun and well made ( except chat). However whatever the cutoff is the people just below it will be mad and frustrated. As usual time is needed to grow your account so for the next time you will be hopefully qualified.

NiteAndDae

Thestoryteller6 wrote: »

Kabam Miike wrote: »

Dr_Physico wrote: »

Are there different milestone "settings" and what do they depend on?
Some colleagues have the fifth (last) milestone at 7500 points, while in my account the fifth is at 5000 points (and less dust, artifacts & gold).

There are brackets to the Milestones. More experienced players will see higher Milestone thresholds than players that do not have as strong Rosters.

I know this isn't what you'd like to hear, but this is done to ensure that we maintain an appropriate level of progress for players, and not to overload newer players with Champions and Items that they cannot use yet, or are too powerful for their current progression.

Sigh. You know, I really try to be supportive because I understand you're in a tough position, but surely you must realise this makes no sense at all.

What exactly is the problem with "overloading newer players with champions and items they cannot use yet?" They would just sit in their stash and quietly expire. There's no burden to the player.

As for "being too powerful for their current progression", surely the whole point on an event like this is to allow players to get more powerful.

I mean think about it right, this is the equivalent of Kabam handing your MD 100,000 dollars, but giving you 5, not because you have fewer responsibilities, not because you work less hard or are less talented, but because he doesn't want to overburden you with all that money, or make you too rich for your current progression.

Have to agree with this. I know a lot of peeps have been grinding for years, but you need to allow people to catch up somehow. Throw them a bone.

The_Savage_Ancient

I entered the dungeon lobby by mistake, can I exit it now because I wanna play it later. So will I be locked out if I exit the lobby now?

TyEdge

@Kabam Miike I have 14 5-stars. I'm uncollected. I cleared Act 4 100%. I'm level 60. Not a world-beater one year into the game, but there's no reason content should be locked from me.

SuperFarz

The_Savage_Ancient wrote: »

I entered the dungeon lobby by mistake, can I exit it now because I wanna play it later. So will I be locked out if I exit the lobby now?

You can play the dungeon unlimited times just the champions you actually use will be on cooldown. Joining and leaving in prelobby has no impact.

GroundedWisdom

Ins1DeOUT wrote: »

When do the Dungeon Milestones Reset?? Is it Every day??

Yes. There is a Timer on it.

HENRIQUE_FORTE

I have no access to the 5* crystals and only see the 3000 milestone.

I have 12 5* (Hawkeye at R3, the others suck) and 65 4* (some are r5). I don't care about getting more 4*.

I think you set too high the prestige limit to get more milestones and be able to purchase the 5* crystals.

Crazyjack719

Firstly, I just want to say thank you for creating a game mode that truly makes this game more fun and interactive with great rewards for minimal effort. This game mode truly answers the call for a "training mode" as such while also giving you the oppurtunity to socialise more in game and make friends.

Having said that, dont you think you should create a detailed guideline regarding the prestige requirements necessary to meet all the milestones and tobhave access to the 5* crystal?

This guideline might be able to answer the barrage of posts, complaints and speculation that has taken over this forum in the last couple hours.

Maybe it could look like this?

Prestige Requirements:

0-2500 - 1500 Milestone - 1st stage access (3*)
2501-4500 - 3000 Milestone - 2nd stage access (4*)
4501-6500 - 5000 Milestone - 3rd Stage access (5*)
6501-10000 - 7500 Milesrone - 4th Stage access (5* + more rewards)

I am a mid level player who falls into the 2nd category, but i play this game quite hardcore and would just like to know the exact figures necessary to use this game mode to further my progression, as many others like me will want to do.

Cheesedit

SuperFarz wrote: »

I see people are getting confused. From what I see there are 2 cutoffs. One cutoff from being able to see the 5* chrystal and another cutoff for the highest milestone in dungeon. It’s just unfortunate that no information is available on the requirements. Event however is fun and well made ( except chat). However whatever the cutoff is the people just below it will be mad and frustrated. As usual time is needed to grow your account so for the next time you will be hopefully qualified.

So a 400k or 500k needs more time to grow? Lol ok, you must be getting all the rewards.

GroundedWisdom

Honestly, it was the Players that asked for a system based on Prestige. If anyone remembers the Awakening Gem of 12.0, or the multiple times people have mentioned awarding things based on Prestige. AQ is gauged the same way. While I relate to wanting all Milestones and Rewards, the system itself is nothing new, and I think it's important to mention this is what we asked for.

Jayfighter88

What after all the reward claimed .. is there any benefit playing dungeons after achieving all milestones?

Gwendoline

GroundedWisdom wrote: »

Honestly, it was the Players that asked for a system based on Prestige. If anyone remembers the Awakening Gem of 12.0, or the multiple times people have mentioned awarding things based on Prestige. AQ is gauged the same way. While I relate to wanting all Milestones and Rewards, the system itself is nothing new, and I think it's important to mention this is what we asked for.

No one asked for this and I can’t remember a time before where people saw different milestones, apart from arena (time based, not prestige based) and the really early on solo events. I don’t know if the solo events where time or prestige based because when they where introduced I was in the highest bracket already. And very soon people enter into the highest possible bracket. Important to note is that all milestones are different here, different points needed and different rewards, they aren’t seeing the same as we are minus the last (couple of) milestones.

So please point out how this is “nothing new” because it feels pretty new to me.

GroundedWisdom

People frequently ask on the Forum for things to be based on Prestige.

Primmer79

Gwendoline wrote: »

GroundedWisdom wrote: »

Honestly, it was the Players that asked for a system based on Prestige. If anyone remembers the Awakening Gem of 12.0, or the multiple times people have mentioned awarding things based on Prestige. AQ is gauged the same way. While I relate to wanting all Milestones and Rewards, the system itself is nothing new, and I think it's important to mention this is what we asked for.

No one asked for this and I can’t remember a time before where people saw different milestones, apart from arena (time based, not prestige based) and the really early on solo events. I don’t know if the solo events where time or prestige based because when they where introduced I was in the highest bracket already. And very soon people enter into the highest possible bracket. Important to note is that all milestones are different here, different points needed and different rewards, they aren’t seeing the same as we are minus the last (couple of) milestones.

So please point out how this is “nothing new” because it feels pretty new to me.

He is referencing 12.0 and how compensation was based on total PI. This separated some people who sold champions. People called for it to be based on prestige instead. Not the same thing, IMO, but if they're basing rewards off of how 'strong' your account is, I'd rather it be prestige than PI.

I don't have a problem with HOW they're separating brackets, but it seems like the last bracket is too high just for some 5 star champions.

Edit: meant to tag @GroundedWisdom at some point and forgot

GroundedWisdom

Primmer79 wrote: »

Gwendoline wrote: »

GroundedWisdom wrote: »

Honestly, it was the Players that asked for a system based on Prestige. If anyone remembers the Awakening Gem of 12.0, or the multiple times people have mentioned awarding things based on Prestige. AQ is gauged the same way. While I relate to wanting all Milestones and Rewards, the system itself is nothing new, and I think it's important to mention this is what we asked for.

No one asked for this and I can’t remember a time before where people saw different milestones, apart from arena (time based, not prestige based) and the really early on solo events. I don’t know if the solo events where time or prestige based because when they where introduced I was in the highest bracket already. And very soon people enter into the highest possible bracket. Important to note is that all milestones are different here, different points needed and different rewards, they aren’t seeing the same as we are minus the last (couple of) milestones.

So please point out how this is “nothing new” because it feels pretty new to me.

He is referencing 12.0 and how compensation was based on total PI. This separated some people who sold champions. People called for it to be based on prestige instead. Not the same thing, IMO, but if they're basing rewards off of how 'strong' your account is, I'd rather it be prestige than PI.

I don't have a problem with HOW they're separating brackets, but it seems like the last bracket is too high just for some 5 star champions.

That was an example, but it's come up many times before, everything from War to Events.

Primmer79

GroundedWisdom wrote: »

Primmer79 wrote: »

Gwendoline wrote: »

GroundedWisdom wrote: »

Honestly, it was the Players that asked for a system based on Prestige. If anyone remembers the Awakening Gem of 12.0, or the multiple times people have mentioned awarding things based on Prestige. AQ is gauged the same way. While I relate to wanting all Milestones and Rewards, the system itself is nothing new, and I think it's important to mention this is what we asked for.

No one asked for this and I can’t remember a time before where people saw different milestones, apart from arena (time based, not prestige based) and the really early on solo events. I don’t know if the solo events where time or prestige based because when they where introduced I was in the highest bracket already. And very soon people enter into the highest possible bracket. Important to note is that all milestones are different here, different points needed and different rewards, they aren’t seeing the same as we are minus the last (couple of) milestones.

So please point out how this is “nothing new” because it feels pretty new to me.

He is referencing 12.0 and how compensation was based on total PI. This separated some people who sold champions. People called for it to be based on prestige instead. Not the same thing, IMO, but if they're basing rewards off of how 'strong' your account is, I'd rather it be prestige than PI.

I don't have a problem with HOW they're separating brackets, but it seems like the last bracket is too high just for some 5 star champions.

That was an example, but it's come up many times before, everything from War to Events.

And not always where it's a great idea, lol. But here, I agree with it, just disagree with execution of it

L8Rdays

GroundedWisdom wrote: »

Honestly, it was the Players that asked for a system based on Prestige. If anyone remembers the Awakening Gem of 12.0, or the multiple times people have mentioned awarding things based on Prestige. AQ is gauged the same way. While I relate to wanting all Milestones and Rewards, the system itself is nothing new, and I think it's important to mention this is what we asked for.

The awakening gem was based on PI, not prestige. In fact, all of the compensation was based on overall summoner rating. Prestige had nothing to do with the 12.0 compensation.

AQ is the area where prestige matters for rewards. It has it’s place there, and should not impact other areas of the game or reward systems. To say the players asked for this tiered reward system is ridiculous. I am not sure what you are trying to accomplish with a statement like that, other than making people frustrated.

If you want to base it on anything, it should be based on accomplishments in game. Being uncollected or completing some aspect of the game (e.g. finishing Act 5). This would be a far more reasonable criteria is that is based on skill. Shouldn’t that determine the readiness for a summoner to receive the highest level of rewards that Kabam feels needs to be separated for some ridiculous reason? I fail to see how that doesn’t make more sense.

Primmer79

L8Rdays wrote: »

The awakening gem was based on PI, not prestige. In fact, all of the compensation was based on overall summoner rating. Prestige had nothing to do with the 12.0 compensation.

It wasnt based on prestige, and players were upset about that.