Sorry 1.1.5. Change [Merged Threads]

Just DON’T! It still costs energy to farm and we NEED a slow (yet reliable) way to get items like this!

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Ronin916 wrote: »

If you’re going to remove the revive from Act 1, you should at least add in a 25% to 50% chance to drop a revive from beating ROL Winter Soldier. At the moment, there’s no reliable way to farm revives in this game. I understand the need to keep things balanced and from being overly exploited, but there should at least be some way to reliably farm revives

Nope. Would be too beneficial to the player base.

Swe_wolfis

So...getting items from maps and other areas of the game is exploits?

I hope that we all keep quiet that we can get T4B from CCB...otherwise...

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neo332

Kabam Zibiit wrote: »

The item was removed and replaced because it was being used and gathered in a way that wasn’t intended - it was a clear exploit.

Man, just say it was a "bug". KABAM introduced a bug that gave players access to an item in a way you didn't intend. This was a situation that you should have issued an update and then NOT TALKED ABOUT IT. Why even address this in forums if not to stir people up? Now you've waded into a mess you never needed to.

Stop and think. SMH

neo332

DRTO wrote: »

This is unfortunate, but this can be a valuable lesson for the next time we discover something like this. In the words of Jimmy from Goodfellas:

"Never rat on your friends, and always keep your mouth shut"

You say nothing and they get nothing, so don't be revealing these secrets on the forums.

I agree. Whomever brought this to Kabam was an idiot.

Pyrocix

Dear kabam,
You word this as though we did something wrong. You place an item in game that rejuvenates repeatedly upon the completion of each mission. It wasn't free. We had to spend to to farm the item and complete each run fully in order to continue. That's 3 runs before BUYING an energy refill. I would be surprised to see a money made/lost comparison that brought you out on the negative side here.

That's a lvl1 revive and the people farming them legitimatly are reviving 5*r3 or better champs with 23k+ hp. That's 350hp. We still have to go BUY the hp pots from the STORE to fill the champs hp bar and that's where you make the money.

I used to play Wow. I spent $20 a month to play for 3 years. I have spentore money on this game in a month than I did there for 3 years and you think that a lvl 1 revive or 30 lost you money from me? Go back to grad school and get a business degree or two. Just sad....

Doug_McQuaid

Are children running things around this game? I seriously can’t believe the update said ‘exploiting’ and ‘take action’ in it. What are people exploiting?! They are playing quests that you created. They are using their own energy to stock up on items to beat very unbeatable content in the game. How in the world is that exploiting? Give me a break. If it’s such a big deal, then those acts should only allow certain players to re-run it. So lvl 60 can’t play acts 1-3 or something. Just like lower levels can’t go into LoL.

But just another way Kabam is trying to make you spend more money on the game. So greedy.

Do you guys want my bank account info now or later?

DrZola

Just a heads up:

I’m “exploiting” Normal and Beginner EQ to get more dust. I’m also specifically choosing to run paths that have items like heal pots or revives on them because I find them useful in game.

Given the stated difficulty of those quests, they are intended for Summoners well below my level.

Sorry for the exploit.

Dr. Zola

Diabolus

This is nothing short of bullying your customer. Sure, it's a bug that needed to be fixed but you don't indirectly threaten your customer base. I'm done once I find an alliance replacement as well. I ask that other Summoners aka YOUR CUSTOMERS seriously consider the same. Why have a company like this bully you? Pure arrogance.

Richterchen

Oh my God, do not post WS Rewards, shut up and farm it, before fix.

Sac123_

Kabam Zibiit wrote: »

Hi everyone, we just wanted to take a moment to reiterate what we've already stated. The item was removed and replaced because it was being used and gathered in a way that wasn’t intended - it was a clear exploit. We said that we aren’t planning on issuing any infractions or taking any actions over this because we have received questions from players and we wanted to clarify the situation for the community.

As for those asking about other issues that haven’t been resolved yet, that is because they are more complicated and may require more time to research, reproduce, create a fix for, test, and then implement. Sometimes this will require an update and sometimes it won’t, but this is because each issue is unique and must be handled differently. That said, comparing issues in game and asking why one isn’t fixed before another is not a constructive conversation for the forums.

We understand that it can be frustrating to see some issues you'd like resolved to linger in-game while we continue to work on them, but that does not mean that every announced fix should be met with argument or debate over why we have fixed one thing over another. There are many factors involved in determining the timeline of any given fix, as outlined above.

I'm not gonna scream even though I want to. Stop telling us you understand. You know exactly what you are doing when you do it. You are a company that makes millions every year. Stop beating around the Bush, and tell us you have no interest in fixing bugs that harm the players wallets.

vrto

I would like to see all players give a bit of a step back with all this aggressive behavior, Kabam staff is just being careful with words to don’t ignite “haters”, as usual.

I would also like to see Kabam staff reconsider recurrent behavior of labeling people as exploiters, when they are just playing their game as it was designed.

Haters are just a few but unfortunately they seem to be the major concern, the sooner we accept this, and focus on making the game better, the better our community is.

PS: personally I don’t think such revive should be there always, if the intent was to provide that always to game newbies then turn it a recurrent collector gift, expiring at some point with a bang hater like msg.

VTA92

Man! They are in full delete mode today! Lmao. Could you imagine how great this game could be if it was lead by people who were in touch with the player base and cared about the community. Oh well, I guess that is what dreams are for.

Tlmajr

Dear kabam,

I am exploting the game for gold by playing the arena and using the arena points to get crystals that gives gold. When should I expect the crystal removal or a ban?

VTA92

Jokes on them. They don’t know about the other chapter.

Showstopper151

Kabam changes the game because of their own mistake and basically threatens players that figured it out. Ridiculous...I heard about it but simply don't care to farm L1 revives. I'm glad they're not gonna punish people that did because it would've been a mass exodus of members like after 12.0 came out.

DarthPhal

Most tone deaf customer support in the history of anything that was profitable.

Dexman1349

DrZola wrote: »

Just a heads up:

I’m “exploiting” Normal and Beginner EQ to get more dust. I’m also specifically choosing to run paths that have items like heal pots or revives on them because I find them useful in game.

Given the stated difficulty of those quests, they are intended for Summoners well below my level.

Sorry for the exploit.

Dr. Zola

I already completed my "exploit" of Beginner and Normal last week going for the units and dust. I also choose the paths with the most items as I explore. Sometimes I even follow a path just long enough to get the item then quit <gasp! the humanity!>.

In a way, it's like Kabam is trying to ration out the items we collect in the game. There is a maximum quota allowed each day and anyone trying to gather more is "exploiting" the game. At this point, they might as well just eliminate all items from the quests and just issue daily item packages you collect through the log-in calendar. "Yay! It's Level 2 revive Wednesday! It's my favorite! Thanks Kabam!"

DaMunk

For goodness sake people need to keep their mouths shut when things like this appear. If Little idiots coming on here highlighting these things need attention go somewhere else, Kabam won't give you anything.

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Mags

In order for posts to remain here without being deleted, they must contain constructive content, or at least that's what I've come to understand.
So mine comes as constructive criticism.. Of sorts.
@Kabam Miike
How is repeatedly running quests with known rewards, ANY different from repeatedly running quests with known rewards?
Er, wait.. those are the same thing? Right?

Your announcement today has put such a bad taste in my mouth, that I'm seriously considering quitting.

We burn resources to grind quests to get resources, repeatedly. So much so, that it's almost pathetic. And now you've got the audacity to accuse your players of cheating by way of an "exploit"? Are you kidding me?

If I run any daily quest, I'm "guaranteed" a certain amount of frags.. every single time. That is absolutely no different than running a quest that guarantees another resource or boost.. if it's not labeled as a reward in the quest info, then shame on you.

You claim that the reward is "only supposed to be for new players" - Really? Wow! If that's true, and you are seriously speaking on behalf of the team, I'm disgusted. If it was a reward for new players only, then block it for ALL OTHERS! How is knowing that our responsibility?

You going to "consider" penalizing me for grinding a daily repeatedly for frags? Because I do that all the time! And I get em' every single time, frag after frag. I burn up the energy like a freak, grinding away.

So thanks for the horrible, petty, disgusting announcement. Way to be classy.

Btw, I took a screenshot of this immediately after I hit "Post Comment", So I can share it later if it gets deleted, or "edited by moderator". I'm sure I'm not the only one who took offense to your shenanigans.. and censoring the posts where we voice our views only adds to your class 👍

.. and to be sure I satisfy that 'constructive' check-box;
You should really double triple check your exclusive content/rewards areas more thoroughly.. Or label them as such. We'd hate to be accused of cheating when breaking some invisible rule.

Dr_Brown

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that is true

DTMelodicMetal

Curious why it takes days to remove an item that could be farmed but it took over a year to extend the hit box of Marvel’s sp2. Also curious why negative connotation is being assigned to farming resources in an MMO/RPG game.

If things change and actions are taken against players who utilized a decades-old MMO/RPG farming technique, hundred to thousands of players will receive consequences. Most notably, top level players who farmed 1.1.5 to help them explore Labyrinth of Legends.

Dr_Brown

this whole situation is disgraceful to the player base that you remove an item you purposefully placed in a quest and indirectly threatening players who used it to their advantage to complete difficult content

DiablosUltimate

Even monkey would predict that when there is farming spot added to the game, then players are gonna farm it

mostlyharmlessn

Kabam Zibiit wrote: »

Hi everyone, we just wanted to take a moment to reiterate what we've already stated. The item was removed and replaced because it was being used and gathered in a way that wasn’t intended - it was a clear exploit.

So tell me,

Is running any of the daily quests over and over again because at the end you get some cat shards an exploit? (Cat farming)

Is running a map doing a couple of specific fights to gain xp points an exploit? (Xp Farming)

Is running the Monthly EQ Heroic quest over and over again for Completion event points an exploit? (Completion points Farming)

Because this what you are saying....

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Mags

.. It looks as if you've offended your whales as well. So,.
congrats?

VTA92

IOSJasoN wrote: »

Well my comment was immediately removed for being non-constructive.. Personally I thought it was awesome.. As I got warned and it was removed immediately kabam must of secretly thought the same ;-)

I’ve had 3 removed today and none were even vulgar or attacking. I’m surprised this thread hasn’t been deleted.

Epistriatus

It was fun while it lasted, thanks for fixing something that didn’t need fixing.
On a different note: the way you choose those words & implied that every player who farmed these revives is basically a cheater in your eyes, is a simple reminder for me that ftp is the only way to go in this game.