Alliance Wars Season 3 Discussion Thread

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  • Hello69Hello69 Member Posts: 15
    Well a lot of people think the flip flopping is not good and it’s coming down to be a 12.0 problem Lol its unfair that we rank for diversity and now it’s only gunna be a certain few champs on the board again..... diggtydave is right the lack of communication sucks and a 2 week notice stinks. Leave diversity and make harder nodes .
  • BenLucasBenLucas Member Posts: 69
    just make sensible changes, instead of going nuclear....
  • Tmm1224Tmm1224 Member Posts: 14
    You have to have sense to make senseable changes!!
  • RockonRockon Member Posts: 271
    i agree with kabam wanting to make money, kabam is a business, but every month if it switches back and forth and we as the most of the player base cannot go back and forth with decision plus not having the topest notchest champs at the time due to we have to wait another 2 years to maybe get 2014 mid tier champs. what do those players do?
  • SalvatoreSalvatore Member Posts: 3
    edited June 2018
    @Kabam Miike Miike you should give us a rankdown tickets a lot of summomers rank up for diversity
  • Dangerous_GhangDangerous_Ghang Member Posts: 1
    edited June 2018
    I respect your decision on removing diversity, even though it added some strategic factors that some of my friends still enjoyed playing with.

    However, due to it, many of us have brought up champs that we would never have thought of bringing up before, such as Iron Patriot, Ant-man, Simby Spidey, War Machine, the kind of champs who are not god Tier defenders, but can sometimes provide favorable variables with the help of certain nodes.

    We did not just bring them up to 5/50 but also to 4/55 just for the sake of meeting both better defense AND higher diversity, spending a bunch of Gold, Catalysts, Awakening Gems and Signature Ability Stones, which we would have spent otherwise, if Kabam never had introduced diversity in the first hand. (No need to mention that some of us even decided to spend cash during the procedure.)

    I am sure that this is not a limited case of me and my friends, but one that represents the majority of us, who kept playing AWs under the system THAT KABAM HAS INVENTED.

    THEREFORE, I CORDIALLY SUGGEST AND STRONGLY REQUEST THAT KABAM AT LEAST RELEASE ENOUGH RANK DOWN TICKETS WHICH PROVIDE NOT JUST THE CATALYSTS BUT ALSO THE GOLD AND ISOS THAT WE SPENT WHEN BRINGING UP OUR 2ND AND 3RD TIER CHAMPS, SO THAT WE CAN ADJUST OUR ROSTER ACCORDINGLY TO YOUR NEW SYSTEM.

    Please remember that it never was the community, who suggested to bring in diversity, but Kabam yourself, so we also expect Kabam to show some responsible actions to compensate our about-to-become-meaningless-efforts. Thank you.
  • PlantesanPlantesan Member Posts: 335 ★★
    ASV27 wrote: »
    ASV27 wrote: »
    like the shorter season but the price to complete the maps just quadrupled. No more free fights and harder nodes.

    So, with the exception of those Nodes on Challenger and Expert that we mentioned, we haven't made any other nodes harder. The new Nodes are meant to make things more difficult, but will also be visible from the get go, so Attackers are able to bring in champions to specifically counter whatever Champion they see there.

    Removing diversity is much more important than the new nodes. There's gonna be 10+ IMIWs and Dorms on every map. I get why you did it, but it just stinks for the players.

    I don't think anybody wants to place 10 Dormammu on a Map anymore... The Meta has shifted quite a bit since Diversity was introduced, and some of the former best Defenders have met their match now. Others may seem difficult right now, but Players have already started to find the counters needed for them! This will continue to happen in cycles, because that's just the nature of a game like this!

    Doesn’t change those teams that will still place those high-end defenders to throw people off.

    Taking away diversity is a swift kick to everyone’s lower regions, due to your superiors figuratively holding us over a barrel pushing for diversity for so long. Why not keep diversity and drop the defender classes?
  • ctp1223ctp1223 Member Posts: 290
    edited June 2018
    So diversity is still a thing right? @Kabam Miike
  • GoomGoom Member Posts: 12
    Not sure if this was covered , but with season rewards being cut in half , how does the 1 T4Cc crystal work . Will that be cut in half as well ? Do we get the shard crystals instead ?
  • Vale84Vale84 Member Posts: 308 ★★★
    edited June 2018
    TL/DR:

    1)Kabam can change rules at whim.

    2)Players following given rules can't adapt to them cause they invested resources they won't give back and that takes 1 to 2 years to build back.

    3)You can cover Kabam's lacking sense of fair play by spending more money to make up for progression you didn't lose.

    And you call it a game. Interesting.
  • Bill0927Bill0927 Member Posts: 39
    So wait now the point of the game is NOT to 100% maps that’s news to me. Is the real reason that people were 100% maps with out spending $$$ cause that’s what it seems like the goal has always been to 100% aw aq quest. That is the point of this clown fiesta of a video game right?
  • rahul3038rahul3038 Member Posts: 107
    RDT's pleaseeeee!!!!
  • HulksmasshhHulksmasshh Member Posts: 742 ★★★
    NevvB wrote: »
    So you made the nodes harder, any changes in rewards?

    The rewards have not changed (aside from Season rewards being halved to match the change in length). This is because Alliances were still finding these Maps far too easy. The goal of these changes is to put an end to the near 100% of wars ending in 100% Exploration.

    @Kabam Miike By design, Alliance War maps are meant to be 100% cleared. Whether that was the intention or not, the metric of how many alliances are 100% clearing the map is a poor one to use. There’s only 2 outcomes that can happen to each node, you either clear the node or you item-out trying to. Those are 2 polarizing outcomes, with the latter being the worst case scenario for the player and the scrutiny of their alliance. If the latter isn’t happening as much as you’d guys like, you shouldn’t be pondering ways to make it happen more often. You should be looking at how many deaths/items/boosts were involved along the way and using that as your metric for how ‘difficult’ alliance war maps really were.

    Just because alliances are clearing the map 100%, doesn’t mean the map wasn’t difficult. The alliance that clears the map in less deaths wins the war, that’s how alliance war should be played. It sounds like that the developer’s initial intentions were whoever can explore the map furthest will win the war, but when applied to the game it doesn’t work out that way. After this new
    change, you’ll probably find the same ratio with alliances still 100% clearing the map but with way more deaths/items/boost usage. In that scenario I hope you don’t use the “100% clear” metric again because it’s not indicative of the actual difficulty in alliance war.
  • Damonm790Damonm790 Member Posts: 4
    When will we be receiving our rank down tickets?
  • cronicmovecronicmove Member Posts: 2
    Kabam, as a business owner, I understand making changes to increase your overall profits, but I feel you have been on a very slippery slope with every change made within the past year.

    When 12.0 was released there was a tremendous backlash from the community, and Kabam apologized for not including us and how we would be affected in the decision-making process. After today, I’m not sure if Kabam will ever care.

    Aside from two beta tests, which I feel they would have made the changes regardless of our thoughts, I have seen no discussions with the players on any plans or considerations.

    Every change has felt as if they are trying to reach deeper and deeper into our wallets, with no remorse on how much the change will negatively impact the players. Kabam really did influence everyone to spend (waste) resources on inferior champions in order to run a decent and diverse AW defense. When mentioned by numerus players in this post the response from @Kabam Miike was essentially “you can still use all your old defenders, so why should we give out any compensation?” Would you enjoy spending your own hard-earned money that was guaranteed to last for years and then when it stopped working after a few months be told by the seller to just get over it?

    The feature crystal change, increase in AQ difficulty, little to no punishment for collusion and piloting, and now an increase in AW difficulty with no increase in rewards; everything feels like a milking to me. I’m not screaming for RDT and really have no personal use for them, however I don’t like the path the company is heading down and I hope they don’t over reach and end up losing everything.
  • KeonexKeonex Member Posts: 327 ★★★
    next kabam will remove lvl 4 potions from Glory store as they have found tht was a bug where the potions were actually meant to be lvl1 for 2000 Glory a piece not the actual cost they have now
  • PalanthraxPalanthrax Member Posts: 918 ★★★★
    edited June 2018
    Another perfect example of why I spend less and less time in the game, and my financial investment now goes to SWGOH instead. If the new AW season requires me to spend, I’ll drop a tier - I’m not dancing to Kabam’s tune anymore.

    Every update looks more and more desperate, people aren’t spending because of brazen greed-fuelled decisions like this one.
  • World EaterWorld Eater Member Posts: 3,762 ★★★★★
    Diversity removed, lol! What happened to all those lofty goals when they revamped AW with a new map and point system?

    Can we go back to the AW map for season 1, with updated nodes, so 98%-100% exploration isn't the norm?
  • RetroRocksRetroRocks Member Posts: 68
    Feels like a real cheap shot.
    You’ve spent all your cats and cash getting a ranked diverse squad, so now chuck em all out , instead drop big dollars buying crystals to get these new badass defenders were dropping into the game.
    Oh, and you’ve got half the time to get your 5 wars in , so you’ll have to fight to play if you run only 2BGs, so you better be up for dropping big cash in potions to make sure you earn a spot!
    Oh yeah, and the maps are way harder, we know you’ll still 100% it and drop massive cash to do it, well either that or give up cos you will have lost,... we just want you to spend way more completing the map..... cmon guys, cough up some cash to keep playing your “fun” wars.

    Humpf, don’t like any of this personally. Rooting out the last of the players that want to take the game casually.

    Shorter seasons are good, a revamped map with more path crossing for strategy changes , less overall paths, less linked nodes, more fights per 5 energy, more defenders placed , less irritating no skill nodes (yes I mean you buffet) would all have been a much more fun solution. AW is complicated, messy, slow, repetitive and boring, I would have liked a huge streamlineing of the process, and more actual fun fights per log in rather than these slap dash revenue increase based alternations.
    They missed the mark big style, I’m sadly after 3 years rapidly losing interest in this game.

    For instance this really grinds my gears....they beta MD changes now..... 2 years after it was actually required, all because they’ve finally made unavoidable damage by other means a norm of the game, players don’t even kick up a stink about it anymore, they broke our resolve long ago, so they don’t need it as a money making defender capability anymore, what an absolute shambles.
  • Nightwing2380Nightwing2380 Member Posts: 73 ★★
    NO ONE in the community is on your side kabam. Get a grip of this game or everyone will just got to marvel strike force because they are actually listening to the community and making changes on what we want.
  • GoomGoom Member Posts: 12
    Solution , have different modes for AW , one where diversity matters , one where it don’t , one where if you place Cosmics champs you get bonus points ect. This would eliminate the rank down tickets issue
  • KbugiiKbugii Member Posts: 167 ★★
    Guys they said diversity may come back at some point. For now those of us that ranked diversity champs and fell even further behind in the game get to feel what it was like for Loki when Dr Strange had him falling in oblivion for that 1/2hr.
  • GoomGoom Member Posts: 12
    They can alternate through out the year
  • BrutalMiraBrutalMira Member Posts: 235
    Removing diversity is good but before season 1 you introduced the diversity and thats we rank up those easy to defeat champ to comply with diversity..,,can we expect a rank down tickets to rank up the best defenders in AW?
  • BenLucasBenLucas Member Posts: 69
    I feel like LOki after meeting the Hulk. Slam, slam, slam. “Puny God”
  • BrutalMiraBrutalMira Member Posts: 235
    Please increased also the fragments on season war crystals after we finished season and rewarded by small fragments of T2 alpha and T5 basic
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