Magik 4 Star good or not?
Adityatheaawesom
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I recently acquired a magik and my friend says that unless she is duped she is trash. Is he correct or is she good for power control? Please state your reasoning. Thanks.
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I agree with all but the last sentence. That is Hawkeye.
I agree to agree all but the last sentence. That is Dormammu
I rate power lock far more than power drain personally. Hawkeye drains 40% power, Magik steals 33% and power locks for 9 seconds. The 33% power gets you back to a bar of power after the L2 then 9 seconds is easily enough to get the next bar of power. Add mystic dispersion as well and magik keeps them at 0 power the entire fight. Hawkeye cannot do that.
Dormamu is one of the toughest fights in the game, since not many can counter him. Power drain and intercepting is the best way, Magik is the best to do it.
If he didn’t hit like a wet noodle then yes. Dormamu theoretically is better at controlling power but in practice, there is no fight I’d rather take Dorm than magik. He just doesn’t hit hard enough.
Yeah, i agree with your point. He does not hit hard.
og vision or sw
but yeah hawkeye is good lol
SW is in no way even close to best power control as it's all based on rng.
I would say best power control is either of vision or dorm they are the only champs who can stop anyone ever getting to a bar of power
A lot of people only look at Magik as a defender, which is VERY wrong imo.
Rank her up. She'll be worth it.
I agree with all but the last sentence. That is she-hulk.
But guys what about red skull *winks charismatically*
There isn't one best power control champ because no champ does all elements of power control well, but there are a few that are best in class for certain parts of power control. OG Vision and Dorm can in theory stop champs from getting to their first bar of power, but because OG Vision doesn't have power lock and Dorm's power lock is relatively short they actually aren't the best in situations where the target has power gain. Magik has to build to SP2 to begin draining power so she cannot stop the target from gaining at least one or two bars or power, but she is the rare champ that can both power lock and power drain with the same attack, and the power lock is long. Once she lands the lock she can prevent the target from gaining any more power *and* drain out any power they might have had previously. She is better at controlling things with power gain, and is more forgiving of a power controller than OG Vision and Dorm.
I don't think Hawkeye is quite as good as the others above in power control. Although his power drain is good in general, it isn't best in any particular circumstance like Dorm, OG Vision, and Magik can lay claim to.
Dr. Voodoo is an interesting power control champ to me. His power burn is extremely powerful and can often keep the target completely powerless. His lack of power lock reduces that effectiveness in the face of power gain. But conversely unlike most power control champs using his power control increases his damage rather than reduces it in some way.
The wild card is Ghost Rider. He doesn't have continuous power control like the others above. But his SP3 fate seal/power lock can, when used properly, provide very good situational power control. But strictly in terms of power control, he's not in the same class as the others above.
Oh yeah, and your friend is very, very incorrect. Magik doesn't need to be duped to be great on offense. The dup is only needed for defensive placement as stated above.
As a left field suggestion for great power control against all champs but hyperion and doctor strange or against kinetic reactor nodes, quake can win any match without allowing the opponent to gain any power
I'm honestly not good enough with Doc to suggest him, but I've seen good results from other people.
There's another corner case power control champ: Rogue. She power steals with SP2 and while she cannot really fully power control the target, she can often prevent a target from ever getting to SP3. She's not really competitive with the big boys and girls of power control, but sometimes she can be good enough.
(Rogue's tag line should be: often good enough. Not immune to poison, but often good enough. Not the best heal, but often good enough. Not really great power control, but often good enough...).
Really? I wasn’t convinced there was a huge skill cap with the Doc. Really all you need to do is hit into the block a few times, then build to L3. Once you’re at L3 make sure to trigger a power lock then launch the l3. After that, you get a long enough power lock to re-apply it every time you get to an L1.
I think Doc Ock is quite underrated, not that people say he’s bad, but honestly, if I pulled him as a 6* I’d seriously consider rank 2.
It is more a case of me getting Doc later rather than sooner, and not having the time to really practice much with him. There's more things I want to get better at than there are hours in the day.
I’d recommend moving him a little up your list then!
A joke, but seriously he is very good and I’d really suggest giving him some practice. I only have a 4* unduped, but rank 5 and I use him in uncollected when I want to take in my B and C teams
Currently I'm working on getting better with Quake and Nebula, plus a little of Void in there. Quake and Nebula have a slight overlap in the skill set and while I'm already decent with Nebula, it behooves me to get better since I have her as 6*. Next on the list is probably Doc Oc and Morningstar.