Summoner Appreciation is not something done annually. It's come up every year, at different times. It's not something that can be expected. Nor is there any kind of mandatory norm for what is entailed.
You do realize that if the same thing or event happens every year then its classed as an annual event right.
Guys (and gals, all inclusive, Maui is a hero to all) ignore it. It posts and argues only to force its viewpoint on others. It ignores some truths in favor of others or half truths as a means of confirmation bias. It does all of this out of an inflated sense of importance and illusory superiority. It will, of course, argue against all of this, but the overwhelming evidence from thousands of posts strongly suggests otherwise. It has no horse in this race, it stands to gain nor lose nothing. It has been asked politely by the majority of participants to stop. And yet it persists, its behavior bordering on harassment. The best way to get rid of the troll under the bridge is to starve it.
Summoner Appreciation is not something done annually. It's come up every year, at different times. It's not something that can be expected. Nor is there any kind of mandatory norm for what is entailed.
You do realize that if the same thing or event happens every year then its classed as an annual event right.
The fact that they've had it at different times for different situations means it's not a regular, annual occurrence. It's not consistent. It's happened at different times, and for different reasons. For example, after 12.0. The general premise is to provide extras as a thank you for playing. It's not a regular, mandatory occurrence, and in every case, the perks have varied. It's not as if it's an obligatory installment. The Rewards are also stretched over the course of time, and no doubt are balanced with everything else going on.
During all instances of it, people have complained it's not enough. It's not owed. It's a gift.
That's a whole lot of misconstrued.
The Mod in this Thread clarified that the Gift that came with Summoner Appreciation was the Compensation.
Easter is a centuries-old Holiday that was based on the Resurrection of Jesus. Coincidentally, it's also around the same time as several other Religious Monumentals.
Summoner Appreciation is a gift given to Players as a thank you. It can come for no reason at all, or as the result of some kind of issue that has affected people. It is NOT a Statutory Holiday. The fact that people expect it on demand and throw it back in their faces just shows the level of expectations that this community has developed.
What precedent? People are acting as if Summoner Appreciation is a given. There is no precedent on giving it. It's not owed to us every year. It's not a regualrly-mandated Event that MUST be the same and/or include the same things as previously. No one stops to take into account the other things being given at the time it comes, just that it's not enough, and it doesn't compare to the previous one. The wants are insatiable.
That's a whole lot of misconstrued.
The Mod in this Thread clarified that the Gift that came with Summoner Appreciation was the Compensation.
Easter is a centuries-old Holiday that was based on the Resurrection of Jesus. Coincidentally, it's also around the same time as several other Religious Monumentals.
Summoner Appreciation is a gift given to Players as a thank you. It can come for no reason at all, or as the result of some kind of issue that has affected people. It is NOT a Statutory Holiday. The fact that people expect it on demand and throw it back in their faces just shows the level of expectations that this community has developed.
@GroundedWisdom You’ve essentially made the same comment over and over. It’s safe to say, based on the number of comments in this thread that disagree with you (about this and other things), that you are in the minority on this thread. You’ve made your point—repeatedly—no one needs an explanation of Easter or any other holidays to understand it. It’s simple spam at this stage and clutters the forums. Time for the mods to do their jobs and call it out as such.
This is very dissappointing, i dont feel appreciated. This was just a slap in face. I just wanted to leave my opinion on this. Ive have been playing less an refuse to spend any money anymore, the in game offers anymore are just ridiculous anyway. I am a long time player an have been on the verge of quitting!
The people that post videos/news and updates aren't doing a good job of focusing on how bad the appreciation event is. Prof is one of the ones I would have thought would be on our side, but he isnt doing much because he seems alright with the event after we got the GP thing.
Kabam either got really lucky with how people reacted to this appreciation or they had this planned all along. Many people loved the GP event so much (and justifiably so it was a great event) but this love for the GP event has kind of worked to ease people's frustration over compensation. However, we were told that the GP had nothing to do with compensation. So people like Prof should be just as disgruntled as we are and should be more on our side then he is currently.
I really like this thread to stay on topic, that we talk about SAW and not fall into a shouting back and forth.
That's why I for myself made a list, as objective as possible, of what last months was like and why this does not qualify as 'compensation'. It is a personnal list so it will not be complete for everyone, but I will try to stay as fair and constructive as possible. First off, I will start with what I liked last months.
1. Gwenpool goes to the movies: this was a nice event where you got rewarded hansomely for playing the game. It was a celebration of the cinematic universe, and credit where credit is due, this was a really nice event that made a lot of people happy.
2. Compensation for the misshap with the assassin missions. It was almost 2 months after the issue occurred , but they actually overcompensated a bit, wich was very nice.
3. I actually like the idea of bringing back dungeons. Specifically the idea behind it: a co-op game mode you can enjoy, outside of the usual grinding. It's optional and not needed for anything else.
4. The upgraded rewardsystem for alliance events. Also a welcome improvement.
These are the kind of things that make me feel appreciative of the game. I allways am very thankful when they compensate for anything. I don't take it for granted.
That being said, I'll jump in to my annoyences. I'll start of with the once that were, to me, making this game almost unplayable:
1. The overheating. I feel like I even got lucky with this, I play on an android device and mine did get warmer then it should, but only overheated when I played for a longer time. It sometimes froze and I had to restart my phone. It also drained my battery a lot quicker then it used to.
2. Outages. I feel like we had a lot of them lately. Sometimes they were longer, sometimes multiple a day. As most people I have a job and a family. I have only a limited times a day I play this game. Outages made me loose arena streaks, interfered with AW and AQ, made me loose health and therefore use healthpotions, made activated boosts go to waste, made me mis out on rank rewards with both arena and daily or three day events. This game is all about grinding, and when I am not able to play on the moments I can, it effects me a lot.
3. Laggy and unresponsive controls. I put this third because for me, I noticed it at the beginning of july and kinda it comes and goes. I noticed that threads regarding this issue exist for far longer and other people have experienced this before, so it might not be a recent problem. What happened for me was: a) unresponsive block. Sometimes I clearly block but nothing happens. b) Dropping block. I hold block and without any reason, it drops. c) freezing in heavy attack. Sometimes my champions freeze in the charging position. The only way to break it is hitting pause. When I unpause it heavy attacks. All 3 of this issues made me lose every single harder fight. It frustrated me and limited me to easier content.
On top of these issues, I also encountered some annoyences that were not game breaking, but did cause some frustration. I'm sure I've already forgetten most, but here are the once I remember.
1. Suddenly all alliances where in the same bracket. This was the last AQ before the new system without bracket. I know this was compensated, but the reason I still mention it will be explained in point 2. The main annoyence was that a lot of alliances started map 2 instead of the map they usually play.
2. Communication. This for me is not game breaking, but still is one of the most frustrating parts of the game. I'll use the previous issue as an example. First off, I used to never check this forum, but apparently that is expected. When issues arise, no ingame messages are send. So when the AQ issue arose, I checked the forum. The thread adressing the issue had the very much discussed post of a mod that said: feel free to keep playing. Some people found this clear enough. Others didn't. It doesn't even matter if it was clear or not, people did not find it a sufficient message to start using their resources on something that might not grand them what they would normally ge as a reward. Regardless of weither you find their communication clear enough or not, people asked to elaborate for days and all mods stayed quiet for days. When eventually they did answer people were angry that they lost days not running the maps they usually would. This anger could have been avoided by just answering the questions that were raised. This sadly is just one example of many more incidents that spark anger and frustration just by bad communication.
3. Visual bugs. Most notably, we had champions appearing in the background. But also at the start of each fight, the screen freezes.
4. Delay of the start of the new season in July
5. Arena and Event rewards being late.
6. Domino's breaking blocks. Making people lose AW fights.
All of these last ones are forgiveable. I would cover those with a mantle of love it was only these 6 points. But it wasn't. We had to deal with it during all of the game breaking stuff, wich did make it more frustrating.
Now for the SAW. Right off the bat the communication annoys me. In game it is described as 'gifts' and as just a summoner appreciation week. Only on the forum, and only after asking for elaborating does a mod tell us this is the compensation they where talking about. So why is it not enough for me? Well, I'll go over what we are getting:
The event itself. People where asking for a summoner appreciation month for quite a while now. They where asking for a month because it used to be a month. Regardless weither you call it an annual thing, when you decide to hold another appreciation event that is a week instead of a month, then off course you get an angry reaction. Off course people are disappointed and ask the company if they are all of the sudden less appreciatif of their players. For me it's really a bummer because it fell into my week vacation. A week I don't want to spend on my cell phone. So am I gonna miss out on compensation because I go on vacation for a week? That doesn't seem fair.
The packages: these are in no way any good. A high tier player receives the same as someone who is new to the game, so how is it supposed to reflect what we lost? It's a very low package, the utter mimimum you can give without being downright sarcastic.
The login crystal: great if this event was a month long. If it's a week long, you miss a lot just because of bad timing if it's in a week you're not available.
The healing halls: great if it was just appreciation, not when it's supposed to be compensation. Again you need to grind to get compensation, that just doesn't make sence to me. And again I am going to miss it because I'm on vacation.
The weeklong boost: Again great if it was just appreciation. Not suited for compensation. Again really painfull if you are on a vacation for one week.
The double rewards xp, gold,.. : same thing, great if it is a gift, really not ok when it's compensation. You don't let people grind and spend more time on your product to compensate for it not working.
All in all, I wish I could just stop playing this game. But I invested so much time in the slow climb to get where I am now, it is really hard to give it al up. Even worse, I actually spend money on this game, I don't want it to go away. So I won't stop playing right away. But I know I will never make the mistake of spending money on this game. And I will keep telling them why I am not satisfied.
It is important to keep in mind that certain individuals that continue to press their views about the game are very low level players. Currently less than 20k rating. This alone provides enough grounds to dismiss any wisdom as it pertains to compensation for any and all end game players. It's also impossible to provide any accurate insight into a situation in which an individual was not directly effected, admittedly.
It is important to keep in mind that certain individuals that continue to press their views about the game are very low level players. Currently less than 20k rating. This alone provides enough grounds to dismiss any wisdom as it pertains to compensation for any and all end game players. It's also impossible to provide any accurate insight into a situation in which an individual was not directly effected, admittedly.
Well how can he play and level up in the game if he is here 24/7 lmao
Does anyone know if the original thread for iPhone overheating is still up? I’ve sear for it numerous times but I only get results referencing it. My iPhone is back to getting toasty again. I’d rather not just start a new thread for it to be ignored and brushed aside, the same way my support ticket was.
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How do you have over 10k posts? Do you even play or just troll forums.
Either way, go to bed. You have a long day tomorrow being Kabams lap dog.
You do realize that if the same thing or event happens every year then its classed as an annual event right.
During all instances of it, people have complained it's not enough. It's not owed. It's a gift.
The Mod in this Thread clarified that the Gift that came with Summoner Appreciation was the Compensation.
Easter is a centuries-old Holiday that was based on the Resurrection of Jesus. Coincidentally, it's also around the same time as several other Religious Monumentals.
Summoner Appreciation is a gift given to Players as a thank you. It can come for no reason at all, or as the result of some kind of issue that has affected people. It is NOT a Statutory Holiday. The fact that people expect it on demand and throw it back in their faces just shows the level of expectations that this community has developed.
And you still posting smh
I feel showered with appreciation.
Please sir, can I have more?
Only if its golden...
@GroundedWisdom You’ve essentially made the same comment over and over. It’s safe to say, based on the number of comments in this thread that disagree with you (about this and other things), that you are in the minority on this thread. You’ve made your point—repeatedly—no one needs an explanation of Easter or any other holidays to understand it. It’s simple spam at this stage and clutters the forums. Time for the mods to do their jobs and call it out as such.
Dr. Zola
Kabam either got really lucky with how people reacted to this appreciation or they had this planned all along. Many people loved the GP event so much (and justifiably so it was a great event) but this love for the GP event has kind of worked to ease people's frustration over compensation. However, we were told that the GP had nothing to do with compensation. So people like Prof should be just as disgruntled as we are and should be more on our side then he is currently.
I would love if they would do surveys of what the people want or think of a idea
Dude, hes allergic to this thread. Not the others tho. Just this one.
That's why I for myself made a list, as objective as possible, of what last months was like and why this does not qualify as 'compensation'. It is a personnal list so it will not be complete for everyone, but I will try to stay as fair and constructive as possible. First off, I will start with what I liked last months.
1. Gwenpool goes to the movies: this was a nice event where you got rewarded hansomely for playing the game. It was a celebration of the cinematic universe, and credit where credit is due, this was a really nice event that made a lot of people happy.
2. Compensation for the misshap with the assassin missions. It was almost 2 months after the issue occurred , but they actually overcompensated a bit, wich was very nice.
3. I actually like the idea of bringing back dungeons. Specifically the idea behind it: a co-op game mode you can enjoy, outside of the usual grinding. It's optional and not needed for anything else.
4. The upgraded rewardsystem for alliance events. Also a welcome improvement.
These are the kind of things that make me feel appreciative of the game. I allways am very thankful when they compensate for anything. I don't take it for granted.
That being said, I'll jump in to my annoyences. I'll start of with the once that were, to me, making this game almost unplayable:
1. The overheating. I feel like I even got lucky with this, I play on an android device and mine did get warmer then it should, but only overheated when I played for a longer time. It sometimes froze and I had to restart my phone. It also drained my battery a lot quicker then it used to.
2. Outages. I feel like we had a lot of them lately. Sometimes they were longer, sometimes multiple a day. As most people I have a job and a family. I have only a limited times a day I play this game. Outages made me loose arena streaks, interfered with AW and AQ, made me loose health and therefore use healthpotions, made activated boosts go to waste, made me mis out on rank rewards with both arena and daily or three day events. This game is all about grinding, and when I am not able to play on the moments I can, it effects me a lot.
3. Laggy and unresponsive controls. I put this third because for me, I noticed it at the beginning of july and kinda it comes and goes. I noticed that threads regarding this issue exist for far longer and other people have experienced this before, so it might not be a recent problem. What happened for me was: a) unresponsive block. Sometimes I clearly block but nothing happens. b) Dropping block. I hold block and without any reason, it drops. c) freezing in heavy attack. Sometimes my champions freeze in the charging position. The only way to break it is hitting pause. When I unpause it heavy attacks. All 3 of this issues made me lose every single harder fight. It frustrated me and limited me to easier content.
On top of these issues, I also encountered some annoyences that were not game breaking, but did cause some frustration. I'm sure I've already forgetten most, but here are the once I remember.
1. Suddenly all alliances where in the same bracket. This was the last AQ before the new system without bracket. I know this was compensated, but the reason I still mention it will be explained in point 2. The main annoyence was that a lot of alliances started map 2 instead of the map they usually play.
2. Communication. This for me is not game breaking, but still is one of the most frustrating parts of the game. I'll use the previous issue as an example. First off, I used to never check this forum, but apparently that is expected. When issues arise, no ingame messages are send. So when the AQ issue arose, I checked the forum. The thread adressing the issue had the very much discussed post of a mod that said: feel free to keep playing. Some people found this clear enough. Others didn't. It doesn't even matter if it was clear or not, people did not find it a sufficient message to start using their resources on something that might not grand them what they would normally ge as a reward. Regardless of weither you find their communication clear enough or not, people asked to elaborate for days and all mods stayed quiet for days. When eventually they did answer people were angry that they lost days not running the maps they usually would. This anger could have been avoided by just answering the questions that were raised. This sadly is just one example of many more incidents that spark anger and frustration just by bad communication.
3. Visual bugs. Most notably, we had champions appearing in the background. But also at the start of each fight, the screen freezes.
4. Delay of the start of the new season in July
5. Arena and Event rewards being late.
6. Domino's breaking blocks. Making people lose AW fights.
All of these last ones are forgiveable. I would cover those with a mantle of love it was only these 6 points. But it wasn't. We had to deal with it during all of the game breaking stuff, wich did make it more frustrating.
Now for the SAW. Right off the bat the communication annoys me. In game it is described as 'gifts' and as just a summoner appreciation week. Only on the forum, and only after asking for elaborating does a mod tell us this is the compensation they where talking about. So why is it not enough for me? Well, I'll go over what we are getting:
The event itself. People where asking for a summoner appreciation month for quite a while now. They where asking for a month because it used to be a month. Regardless weither you call it an annual thing, when you decide to hold another appreciation event that is a week instead of a month, then off course you get an angry reaction. Off course people are disappointed and ask the company if they are all of the sudden less appreciatif of their players. For me it's really a bummer because it fell into my week vacation. A week I don't want to spend on my cell phone. So am I gonna miss out on compensation because I go on vacation for a week? That doesn't seem fair.
The packages: these are in no way any good. A high tier player receives the same as someone who is new to the game, so how is it supposed to reflect what we lost? It's a very low package, the utter mimimum you can give without being downright sarcastic.
The login crystal: great if this event was a month long. If it's a week long, you miss a lot just because of bad timing if it's in a week you're not available.
The healing halls: great if it was just appreciation, not when it's supposed to be compensation. Again you need to grind to get compensation, that just doesn't make sence to me. And again I am going to miss it because I'm on vacation.
The weeklong boost: Again great if it was just appreciation. Not suited for compensation. Again really painfull if you are on a vacation for one week.
The double rewards xp, gold,.. : same thing, great if it is a gift, really not ok when it's compensation. You don't let people grind and spend more time on your product to compensate for it not working.
All in all, I wish I could just stop playing this game. But I invested so much time in the slow climb to get where I am now, it is really hard to give it al up. Even worse, I actually spend money on this game, I don't want it to go away. So I won't stop playing right away. But I know I will never make the mistake of spending money on this game. And I will keep telling them why I am not satisfied.
Well how can he play and level up in the game if he is here 24/7 lmao