Is it me or is Guillotine incredible?

robernestleerobernestlee Member Posts: 56
So I've been playing for a while and have around 40 4*s (and only 5 5*s) with 14 of them at R4, including Corvus, Hyperion, Gwenpool, Archangel, Black Widow, Wasp and Woverine. And among all of these, especially in quests, my R4 4-Star Guillotine more than holds her own among these champions. But when I look at various ranking sheets, she's always at mid-level. Are these people just mistaken or am I just good with Guillotine...or severely biased? Does anyone else use her and how does she do for you?
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  • Jh_DezJh_Dez Member Posts: 1,307 ★★★
    She's good but let's be honest
    In terms of bleed damage, a sufficient amount of champs are better
    In terms of healing, there are better options
    Only thing that's useful about her is her heal reversal
    She's great tho
  • robernestleerobernestlee Member Posts: 56
    she is underrated as "#¤"¤, she was my first mystic r5
    if kabam servers dont lag she is almost immortal, does heavy damage and heavy bleed and always recover almost all health, it is very hard to lose her because of the health gain and ofc then she is a "regen killer" as well
    goldpool just auto dies at 50% health, degen to 25 then degen to 0 :P.
    people who underestimate her i think does not run a mastery for damage so they dont get soul charges fast enough

    I think you're totally right about the mastery. I've set my mastery for the most optimal damage so the soul charges come fast and she recovers health like no one else I've used (except Wolverine at times).
  • robernestleerobernestlee Member Posts: 56
    Jh_Dez wrote: »
    She's good but let's be honest
    In terms of bleed damage, a sufficient amount of champs are better
    In terms of healing, there are better options
    Only thing that's useful about her is her heal reversal
    She's great tho

    I agree about the bleed damage. Archangel and Gwenpool are more insane. But I think I'm just limited in good healing champs so she's one of the best I got haha.
  • KittenPrimeKittenPrime Member Posts: 191
    First 4* and I think she’s bloody brilliant
  • robernestleerobernestlee Member Posts: 56
    Rixob wrote: »
    Nah bro, shes trash

    Haha Thanks for your very helpful insight. Now that I know she's trash, I'll go ahead and sell her......
  • RixobRixob Member Posts: 505 ★★
    Rixob wrote: »
    Nah bro, shes trash

    Haha Thanks for your very helpful insight. Now that I know she's trash, I'll go ahead and sell her......[/quo
    Nah dont sell any champs
  • SupermanafficinadoSupermanafficinado Member Posts: 158
    I recently took her to r4 to beat act 4.2.6 magneto and have been using her in my questing team ever since. Greatly underrated indeed.
  • ICE_ICE_BABYICE_ICE_BABY Member Posts: 218
    Jh_Dez wrote: »
    She's good but let's be honest
    In terms of bleed damage, a sufficient amount of champs are better
    In terms of healing, there are better options
    Only thing that's useful about her is her heal reversal
    She's great tho

    tell me.. what champs are out there that cause bleed and heal other than blade and ultron?
    your welcome
  • robernestleerobernestlee Member Posts: 56
    Rixob wrote: »
    Rixob wrote: »
    Nah bro, shes trash
    haha just joking man. I don't sell champs.

    Haha Thanks for your very helpful insight. Now that I know she's trash, I'll go ahead and sell her......[/quo
    Nah dont sell any champs
  • Epsilon3Epsilon3 Member Posts: 1,138 ★★★
    Sabertooth
    Green goblin

    That Sp3
  • rockykostonrockykoston Member Posts: 1,505 ★★★★
    She's good, but then again there are lot of newer / better champs and trust me for the harder content, she usually falls short.

    Let's say a bleed/poison fight can be finished much faster by AA than Guillotine.
    Heal reversal is much easier / faster /better by Void than Guilly.
    And her regen is too random to depend upon.

    Basically, the issue is that you would not be able to gain souls against champs with high health pool. By the time, you'll gain the next soul, the previous one would fall off (unless synergy is active). Somehow I also feel her block proficiency is also bad, but I could be confused.
  • ScottryanScottryan Member Posts: 475 ★★★
    My 5* gilly is maxed and her damage is solid. Shes a great champ
  • Mitchell35Mitchell35 Member Posts: 1,897 ★★★★
    I love her. Taking my 5* up to hen I get the cats
  • XxLoganTDCxXXxLoganTDCxX Member Posts: 2,561 ★★★★
    I think she's pretty good but could always be better. I have her as a unduped rank 2 four star during the woman day event thing
  • MagrailothosMagrailothos Member Posts: 5,981 ★★★★★
    She's good, but then again there are lot of newer / better champs and trust me for the harder content, she usually falls short.

    Let's say a bleed/poison fight can be finished much faster by AA than Guillotine.
    Heal reversal is much easier / faster /better by Void than Guilly.
    And her regen is too random to depend upon.

    Basically, the issue is that you would not be able to gain souls against champs with high health pool. By the time, you'll gain the next soul, the previous one would fall off (unless synergy is active). Somehow I also feel her block proficiency is also bad, but I could be confused.

    True, that is a problem for her.

    She's best against defenders who aren't massively more powerful for that reason.

    If you can pair her with Morningstar, her souls last a lot longer, though.

    I like her a lot - great damage output; limited utility bit - she's a bit like Ronan: not often your first choice, but there are situations where she's utterly amazing. Aside from Void (or now CAIW) few other champs can take down a big nasty regenerating champ like ROL Wolverine as easily. And not everyone has access to those two more recent champs.
  • rockykostonrockykoston Member Posts: 1,505 ★★★★
    She's good, but then again there are lot of newer / better champs and trust me for the harder content, she usually falls short.

    Let's say a bleed/poison fight can be finished much faster by AA than Guillotine.
    Heal reversal is much easier / faster /better by Void than Guilly.
    And her regen is too random to depend upon.

    Basically, the issue is that you would not be able to gain souls against champs with high health pool. By the time, you'll gain the next soul, the previous one would fall off (unless synergy is active). Somehow I also feel her block proficiency is also bad, but I could be confused.

    True, that is a problem for her.

    She's best against defenders who aren't massively more powerful for that reason.

    If you can pair her with Morningstar, her souls last a lot longer, though.

    I like her a lot - great damage output; limited utility bit - she's a bit like Ronan: not often your first choice, but there are situations where she's utterly amazing. Aside from Void (or now CAIW) few other champs can take down a big nasty regenerating champ like ROL Wolverine as easily. And not everyone has access to those two more recent champs.

    Agreed, I use Guilly every time in questing that my main champs are busy in aq and war.

    As for void, there was an Arena, so if you do arena and if you were around, you should have a void. They've been pretty generous giving out 4 star versions of new champs. I think the ROL Wolvie fight becomes super easy with Void.
  • WelderofortuneWelderofortune Member Posts: 527 ★★
    I think that most people who enjoy using champs with a lot of utility have to sacrifice a bit in the top end damage department, gully is a good example of that, she is a champ who regens, reverses regen and can cause others to bleed. Not bad ability's and a good Swiss army knife champ, however there will always be champs who do what she does better but the array of ability's is what makes her a great champ.
  • robernestleerobernestlee Member Posts: 56
    She's solid. She had more value before Void was released but she's still demi-god tier.

    Totally agree. I don't think that she's God Tier like Corvus or Blade, but she's def Demi-God.
  • GroundedWisdomGroundedWisdom Member Posts: 36,576 ★★★★★
    She's great. Reverses Regen, Life Steal, Bleed....been a useful Champ for me for a long time.
  • EB54EB54 Member Posts: 77
    Before the sentinels were added to aq I used gully wolverine and cap ww2 as my attack team. Her bleed is great and heal reversal is a great utility. Regen is better in long fights so you will need to stretch them out at times. She also has a long reach in her attacks which is an underrated quality in the game. I agree that there are lots of new champs that are better but don’t think you’ll regret ranking her up if u do.
  • CapWW2CapWW2 Member Posts: 2,901 ★★★★
    I 4/55 mine. She is a bleeder / healer. Amazing champ but not god tier
  • SuelSuel Member Posts: 279
    Her damage and bleed are pretty good

    Her healing is trash

    Her main skill, which is heal reverse demands those souls who arent rly reliable and makes the ability fail in long fights, specially after Void was released.

    So i d say she is below:

    Dr voodoo
    Ghost rider
    Dormammu
    Mephisto
    Magik
    Scarlet witch
    Morningstar
    Hood
    Loki

    Not a bad champ tough
  • MSRDLDMSRDLD Member Posts: 913 ★★★
    edited October 2018
    She's supposed to have an armor boost too but I don't think it's working properly. Doesn't show up on her stats anyway.
  • WhathappenedWhathappened Member Posts: 747 ★★★
    She's solid. She's not as fancy as some other mystics but her damage output is better than lots of people realize. She has nice utility. She definitely has her limits though. I like her but she'll probably never go above R3 as a 5 star although I've seen several R4 5 stars.
  • DshuDshu Member Posts: 1,507 ★★★★
    She is a mediocre champ. Great if you don't have a better option like void or aa . In the mystic category she is towards the bottom tier. She us great for rol wolverine but where have we seen regen like that in other game content. Act 4 yes she can kill magneto but there are multiple champs that can do that just as easily and are more utility based than just regen reversal. Not a bad champ but not demigod tier. Her regen is to unpredictable her bleed is low compared to many other bleed champs. I see it mentioned that people dont have the right mastery setup for her. My question would be what setup makes her a better overpowered champ. If she had another utility like immunity to something or a regen on special 1 she would rank much higher
  • Lt_Magnum_1Lt_Magnum_1 Member Posts: 639 ★★
    I have a 6* Guilly. Her damage output even against bleed immunes is very good. Sometimes I bring her to AQ with me.
  • Hector_1475Hector_1475 Member Posts: 1,794 ★★★★★
    Strangelly enough, in a roster of 16 4*, Guillotine is my only Mystic champ (!). I do not own either Blade, Archangel, Gwenpool, or Wolverine and I can only compare her only to one other top-bleeder that I own (X-23). So for me, she's pretty amazing and has more utility than X-23 with the heal-reverse trick. She's very high on my list with the next champs to upgrade to 4/40.
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