Announcing: Occult Labs

The Symbiote Supreme has commandeered M.O.D.O.K.’s old Laboratory and he has been transmuting the experiments into more difficult rituals using his sinister magic!

Test your luck and try your best fighters against a number of completely random Opponents, all with their own randomized Buffs! Beware, Symbiote Supreme, intrigued to push you further this time, has set it so the amount of random Buffs can also vary! Will you luck out on a usually tricky Opponent with only a single random Buff, or will the seemingly easy Opponent have the power of 6 random Buffs on their side? Remember to utilize the Randomizer to re-roll the buffs on the Opponent if you are not confident with the results; although, do keep in mind that the Randomizer will not re-roll the amount of fights on a single fight.

If you need a refresher on how M.O.D.O.K.’s Lab worked in the past, take a look at our forum post from the first time they ran, but read on to find out the differences!

The Lab will remain open for rituals between October 3rd at 10 AM PDT until November 7th at 9 AM PST.

Occult Lab will Feature a Few Changes in this Round:

Duration/Frequency
- 24 hours cycles instead of 12
- 2 entry limit per day, not restricted by difficulty

Auto Fight is back in the Labs, and you can use it if you so wish.

Regardless of difficulty, each fight will have a chance to have between 1 to 6 randomized buffs.

As with last time, ALL the Champions will be randomized on every node. This list has been updated to include Champions that have been released since the last M.O.D.O.K.’s Lab.

NEW EPIC DIFFICULTY! This new difficulty has 6-Star Champions for every fight![/b]

How hard are the fights in these rituals?

Easy - Mini Bosses
- 2-Star Champions
- Rank 1
- Level 10
- Signature 0

Easy - Final Boss
- 3-Star Champion
- Rank 1
- Level 5
- Signature 10

Medium - Mini Bosses
- 3-Star Champions
- Rank 3
- Level 30
- Signature 10

Medium - Final Boss
- 4-Star Champion
- Rank 2
- Level 20
- Signature 50

Hard - Mini Bosses
- 4-Star Champions
- Rank 4
- Level 40
- Signature 50

Hard - Final Boss
- 5-Star Champion
- Rank 3
- Level 45
- Signature 100

Expert - Mini Bosses
- 5-Star Champions
- Rank 4
- Level 55
- Signature 200

Expert - Final Boss
- 6-Star Champion
- Rank 3
- Level 35
- Signature 200

Epic - Mini Bosses
- 6-Star Champions
- Rank 3
- Level 45
- Signature 200

Epic - Final Boss
- 6-Star Champion
- Rank 4
- Level 55
- Signature 200

Were the Random Buffs altered by the Symbiote Supreme’s magic?

Yes actually. The list of Buffs have been slimmed down significantly, and includes a few that were not in the last Lab. He has also removed the HP and Attack Boost Pools and replaced them with a single global buff per difficulty, so the challenge faced will be solely with the other buffs on the fight! These global buffs are as follows:

Easy Global Buff - Iso-Infused (+25% Attack and Health)

Medium Global Buff - Iso-Infused (+50% Attack and Health)

Hard Global Buff - Champion Boost (+100% Attack and Health)

Expert Global Buff - Champion Boost (+200% Attack and Health)

Epic Global Buff - Champion Boost (+200% Attack and Health)

General Buff Pool

Consists of a more refined list of buffs from last time. This list is largely made up of buffs that you would see in a monthly quest, except for:

- Buffs that only work on one specific Character and Class specific Buffs (such as War Machine’s “Second Line” Buff or “Mystic Wrath”)
- Additional HP or Attack Buffs outside of the global boosts mentioned above.

Here’s Where You Can Get More Precious Randomizers:

- 8x in a welcome message on October 3rd, when Occult Lab goes live.
- 8x per day in the Game Store for 2500 Gold each.
- A quest chest with 1 or 2 that can be claimed with every successful completion of an Occult Lab (4x per 24 hours, maximum)

No energy cost but LIMITED ENTRY!

It still costs 0 energy per step to traverse the Occult Lab, however, you will only be able to enter the Lab a total of 2 times every 24 hours.

IF YOU ENTER A QUEST AND QUIT OUT, YOU WILL LOSE ALL WITHHELD ITEMS AND YOUR ENTRY WILL NOT BE REFUNDED. This means if you enter, decide you want to play another mode, and quit, you’ll lose that entry. If you run out of entries you will have to wait until your entries reset to enter again.

REWARDS - Symbiote Supreme’s Generosity

Below is a list of what you can expect as a rewards for each completion of Occult Lab. Keep in mind that since this is 1 path, completion will also equal exploration. Also keep in mind this is per instance, meaning rewards can be earned a maximum of 2 times a day for the duration of the event.

For those curious, here are the potential rewards you can get for the Lab Crystals

Tier 1 Lab Crystal
750x Premium Hero Shards
1000x Premium Hero Shards
1500x Premium Hero Shards
60x Tier 2 Basic Fragments
150x Tier 2 Basic Fragments
325x Tier 2 Basic Fragments
60x Tier 1 Basic Fragments
150x Tier 1 Basic Fragments
300x Tier 1 Basic Fragments

Tier 2 Lab Crystal
500x 3-Star Shards
750x 3-Star Shards
1000x 3-Star Shards
600x Tier 3 Basic Fragments
1000x Tier 3 Basic Fragments
1400x Tier 3 Basic Fragments
120x Tier 2 Basic Fragments
325x Tier 2 Basic Fragments
650x Tier 2 Basic Fragments

Tier 3 Lab Crystal
200x 4-Star Shards
400x 4-Star Shards
1000x 4-Star Shards
1000x Tier 4 Basic Fragments
3000x Tier 4 Basic Fragments
9000x Tier 4 Basic Fragments
100x 5-Star Shards
200x 5-Star Shards
500x 5-Star Shards
1440x Tier 4 Class Catalyst Fragments
3600x Tier 4 Class Catalyst Fragments
7200x Tier 4 Class Catalyst Fragments

Tier 4 Lab Crystal
200x 5-Star Shards
800x 5-Star Shards
2000x 5-Star Shards
2000x Tier 4 Basic Fragments
5000x Tier 4 Basic Fragments
10000x Tier 4 Basic Fragments
400x Tier 2 Alpha Fragments
800x Tier 2 Alpha Fragments
5000x Tier 2 Alpha Fragments
1500x Tier 4 Class Catalyst Fragments
3600x Tier 4 Class Catalyst Fragments
7200x Tier 4 Class Catalyst Fragments

Tier 5 Lab Crystal
250x 5-Star Shards
1000x 5-Star Shards
2500x 5-Star Shards
1000x Tier 2 Alpha Fragments
2000x Tier 2 Alpha Fragments
10000x Tier 2 Alpha Fragments
1000x Tier 5 Basic Fragments

Summoners must update to the latest version of the game to be able to partake in Occult Lab.

Good luck, Summoner. You’ll need it...

Comments

Piviot

What do you expect, all they do is reput the events with less rewards

LeNoirFaineant

Piviot wrote: »

What do you expect, all they do is reput the events with less rewards

Except it isn't less rewards. There were no T5 basics in Modok.

OnlyOneAboveAll

I quit doing them already. Not worth the headache.

RsIV

Kabam,

I’ve been a player since the game first came out and I very rarely complain about anything, but Epic occult labs are a frustrating mess. Defenders and buffs need to be less random. Epic is the only level with rewards that are at all worth doing for me, but I either breeze through them or get stopped cold depending on the defenders I draw and the number of buffs they have. And the randomizers don’t always help, either, because if a defender has 5 buffs, sometimes you can re-roll 5-10 times and still get an impossible or unreasonable combination of buffs. There should be a cap on the defender buffs, or restricted combinations so you don’t get combos like power shield with rage, 200% power gain, etc stacked on top of each other... it’s gotten to where half of the time I scan the map, shake my head and sigh in disgust, then quit out. I’ve never had a problem enjoyably completing all challenges you’ve thrown at us before, from the most challenging of uncollected EQs to ROL/LOL, but occult labs have proven to be unreasonable and unbalanced. You guys have really been improving the game recently with interesting new content, better communication, and champ reworks, all of which I appreciate, but I feel like you missed the mark with occult labs. I hope you will consider revamping them if it’s something you ever bring back.

PaytoPlay

I actually really enjoy the occult lab.

Challenging but the RNG rewards are enticing enough for me to do them daily but if it gets too op I just quit out of it without thinking I have lost so much time and effort.

The key is definitely having the right champions in your roster and selecting the most manageable nodes with your randomizer. I probably got 5k t5b frag and 9k worth of t2a frag so far and just gave up maybe 2 because AW attack phase and AQ map 6 ongoing and took my best champs from participating. 500 5* min daily isn't bad either if I miss out on the better rewards...

PaytoPlay

And yes, maybe a good time to use one of those randomizers on this:

Instant SP3.

Affliction

These are just terrible and frustrating. All RNG. RNG this. RNG that. It's getting too ridiculous. Spent more on resources these path 2 months than I EVER HAVE in 2.5 years!

Affliction

And just bought more randomizers to return to a node that's back to its original. Awesome. When is that EVER going to get fixed?!?

Spurgeon14

LeNoirFaineant wrote: »

Piviot wrote: »

What do you expect, all they do is reput the events with less rewards

Except it isn't less rewards. There were no T5 basics in Modok.

If you get lesser rewards then for you it is less rewards. My rewards have by far been worse than MODOK'S labs. Mostly a few T4B shards and T2A shards. And not impressive numbers at that. So yes, much worse than MODOK'S labs

LeNoirFaineant

@Spurgeo14 fair enough. I feel the same way about rifts. Never got anything but garbage from the rifts. For me the rewards have been far better than Modok even though I've quit a few runs in the Occult Lab due to node combos I couldn't beat and bad rerolls. I will say I wish the reroll worked better. I've had runs where I haven't used any, but when I have need them it often gives you a lot of the same things you already had.

Spurgeon14

LeNoirFaineant wrote: »

@Spurgeo14 fair enough. I feel the same way about rifts. Never got anything but garbage from the rifts. For me the rewards have been far better than Modok even though I've quit a few runs in the Occult Lab due to node combos I couldn't beat and bad rerolls. I will say I wish the reroll worked better. I've had runs where I haven't used any, but when I have need them it often gives you a lot of the same things you already had.

Yeah, if I got better rewards I would definitely have a different opinion. But I liked having a good baseline when it came to MODOK'S lab. The guaranteed rewards were better than the terrible RNG.

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Jestr54

Rewards suck so much with this round of land. Modoks at least guaranteed you shards w this it gives you 1-2 rolls and a chance at shards. It’s lame it’s really lame.

Drake2078

Also, please remove the play next option when completing.

Amonthir

I like them, but I appear to be an outlier, as my Epic crystals have been 40% 5* shards, 30% t2A frags, and 30% t5b frags, and I have already gained more of the last 2 resources than I did from the entirety of Season 4 War rewards.

Frankmcoc

@Kabam Miike can we get a drop rate for the lab 5 crystals?

You guys usually provide that, ie dimensional rifts, modok lab etc....

CapWW2

Occult labs just like dungeons. A pretty good waste of time

Frankmcoc

I’ve now opened 40of them....each prize nowhere close to weighted evenly....it would just be nice to know what we are dealing with are 10k t2a ...5% or .000000000000001%?

Is that too much to ask

GivMeABeer

After doing/attempting these rooms the random buffs are way too much. I think there should be a cap of 4 buffs per opponent and also something in the code that does not allow duplicate buffs. Just my 2 cents after the past 31 days.

World Eater

Piviot wrote: »

MikeHock wrote: »

Voltolos wrote: »

MikeHock wrote: »

Same problem used to happen in Modoks Lab. I guess they never bothered to fix it....

Reroll

Unhappy with reroll but Need to buy more rerolls

Go buy more rerolls in the store

Come back into the occult lab to see that Nodes have reverted back to their original.

But if you wanted to reroll anyway then it doesnt matter what the nodes are. Its only a problem if you quit out of the lab for another reason

It matters because you will have just wasted rerolls. Its retty silly that this issue hasn’t been fixed. It was a problem back during Modoks Lab many months ago.

I’m sorry you was gonna reroll(wow thre times autowrong) you went to buy more tokens to reroll so it doesn’t matter if they was reset, seeing as you was gonna reroll anyway(the reroll failed before you left)

Of course it matters. We can only use and purchase a limited amount of rerolls. Buying rerolls costs us Gold. I’m not disputing that Peope manage this as long as they know it’s bugged, but ......

Nodes reverting back to the original state when leaving the lab map or being disconnected is a bug. It was bugged since modoks Lab several months ago and it’s still bugged now. They released the same content without addressing this known problem.

Thatweirdguy

Amonthir wrote: »

I like them, but I appear to be an outlier, as my Epic crystals have been 40% 5* shards, 30% t2A frags, and 30% t5b frags, and I have already gained more of the last 2 resources than I did from the entirety of Season 4 War rewards.

I doubt you got 30% T5B haha

Piviot

MikeHock wrote: »

Piviot wrote: »

MikeHock wrote: »

Voltolos wrote: »

MikeHock wrote: »

Same problem used to happen in Modoks Lab. I guess they never bothered to fix it....

Reroll

Unhappy with reroll but Need to buy more rerolls

Go buy more rerolls in the store

Come back into the occult lab to see that Nodes have reverted back to their original.

But if you wanted to reroll anyway then it doesnt matter what the nodes are. Its only a problem if you quit out of the lab for another reason

It matters because you will have just wasted rerolls. Its retty silly that this issue hasn’t been fixed. It was a problem back during Modoks Lab many months ago.

I’m sorry you was gonna reroll(wow thre times autowrong) you went to buy more tokens to reroll so it doesn’t matter if they was reset, seeing as you was gonna reroll anyway(the reroll failed before you left)

Of course it matters. We can only use and purchase a limited amount of rerolls. Buying rerolls costs us Gold. I’m not disputing that Peope manage this as long as they know it’s bugged, but ......

Nodes reverting back to the original state when leaving the lab map or being disconnected is a bug. It was bugged since modoks Lab several months ago and it’s still bugged now. They released the same content without addressing this known problem.

I’m sorry I hate kascam as much as you but again you GOING to buy the rerolls so you left the map to buy the rerolls meaning that the rerolls failed in the first place so wtf does it matter if the rerolls reset(you buying more so it failed in first place)

If you have to leave the game I can kind of see your point

DrZola

Piviot wrote: »

MikeHock wrote: »

Piviot wrote: »

MikeHock wrote: »

Voltolos wrote: »

MikeHock wrote: »

Same problem used to happen in Modoks Lab. I guess they never bothered to fix it....

Reroll

Unhappy with reroll but Need to buy more rerolls

Go buy more rerolls in the store

Come back into the occult lab to see that Nodes have reverted back to their original.

But if you wanted to reroll anyway then it doesnt matter what the nodes are. Its only a problem if you quit out of the lab for another reason

It matters because you will have just wasted rerolls. Its retty silly that this issue hasn’t been fixed. It was a problem back during Modoks Lab many months ago.

I’m sorry you was gonna reroll(wow thre times autowrong) you went to buy more tokens to reroll so it doesn’t matter if they was reset, seeing as you was gonna reroll anyway(the reroll failed before you left)

Of course it matters. We can only use and purchase a limited amount of rerolls. Buying rerolls costs us Gold. I’m not disputing that Peope manage this as long as they know it’s bugged, but ......

Nodes reverting back to the original state when leaving the lab map or being disconnected is a bug. It was bugged since modoks Lab several months ago and it’s still bugged now. They released the same content without addressing this known problem.

I’m sorry I hate **** as much as you but again you GOING to buy the rerolls so you left the map to buy the rerolls meaning that the rerolls failed in the first place so wtf does it matter if the rerolls reset(you buying more so it failed in first place)

If you have to leave the game I can kind of see your point

iOS players don’t always leave the Lab to purchase rerolls—can be to check something on line or respond to a message or take a call. When you leave for more than a brief moment, the game restarts from scratch on an iOS device and, along with it, the Lab fight you were on.

Dr. Zola

Carnage313

These have been the most monumental waste of my time. Rewards have just been horrible compared to effort and 0 fun factor. Yes I know it’s my fault for still doing them and yes I have a dirty feeling from it so I’ll accept that blame.

CELEZE

Loved this Occult Labs, I ll miss them, i like the rewards and the difficulty, only did epic never missed one and no items used. Great job Kabam! Keep up with nice events
Thank you for this!

Helicopter_dugdugdug

Best content ever .. more of this please ... don’t listen to snowflakes ...

Spurgeon14

Worst monthly side event since...there were no monthly side events.

Captain_Kandice

DrZola wrote: »

Piviot wrote: »

MikeHock wrote: »

Piviot wrote: »

MikeHock wrote: »

Voltolos wrote: »

MikeHock wrote: »

Same problem used to happen in Modoks Lab. I guess they never bothered to fix it....

Reroll

Unhappy with reroll but Need to buy more rerolls

Go buy more rerolls in the store

Come back into the occult lab to see that Nodes have reverted back to their original.

But if you wanted to reroll anyway then it doesnt matter what the nodes are. Its only a problem if you quit out of the lab for another reason

It matters because you will have just wasted rerolls. Its retty silly that this issue hasn’t been fixed. It was a problem back during Modoks Lab many months ago.

I’m sorry you was gonna reroll(wow thre times autowrong) you went to buy more tokens to reroll so it doesn’t matter if they was reset, seeing as you was gonna reroll anyway(the reroll failed before you left)

Of course it matters. We can only use and purchase a limited amount of rerolls. Buying rerolls costs us Gold. I’m not disputing that Peope manage this as long as they know it’s bugged, but ......

Nodes reverting back to the original state when leaving the lab map or being disconnected is a bug. It was bugged since modoks Lab several months ago and it’s still bugged now. They released the same content without addressing this known problem.

I’m sorry I hate **** as much as you but again you GOING to buy the rerolls so you left the map to buy the rerolls meaning that the rerolls failed in the first place so wtf does it matter if the rerolls reset(you buying more so it failed in first place)

If you have to leave the game I can kind of see your point

iOS players don’t always leave the Lab to purchase rerolls—can be to check something on line or respond to a message or take a call. When you leave for more than a brief moment, the game restarts from scratch on an iOS device and, along with it, the Lab fight you were on.

Dr. Zola

^This

One time I had one in my overflow stash, after I did a reroll I didn’t want to forget to grab the one from my stash since they only last a couple days, so after I added it to my inventory I went back to the fight and it had reverted. If I had known that would happen I wouldn’t have left.

Sometimes it’s not even your choice to leave. I had the game crash right after I started a fight. I had rerolled to something manageable, started the fight and it crashed. After the crash, I opened the game and got the option on start up to restart the fight. Few seconds into the fight I realized it had reverted back to the preroll buffs/debuffs. Kabammed. Fun times.