Opinion: top champs in each class and why. Try to change my mind.

Gear
1) Iron Patriot - heal, armor up, armor break, multiple stuns
2) Hulkbuster - multiple armor ups and armor breaks
3) Civil Warrior - armor ups, bleed immune, poison immune, power drain, power lock, heal block, AAR

Beaker
1) She-Hulk - poison immune, various passive debuffs, multiple stuns
2) Spider-Gwen - evade, weaken, double crit damage, auto counter attack, stun, fatigue, armor break
3) Joe Fixit - poison immune, bleed, stun, heal, fatigue, weaken

Fist
1) Falcon - bleed, anti evade
2) Moon Knight - stun, bleed, fury, evade

Helix
1) Colossus - bleed immune, infinite armor ups, special damage increases based on armor
2) Deadpool X-Force - constant bleed, other bleeds, super power gain
3) White Magneto - heal block, AAR, bleed, insane damage reduction

Saturn
1) Kamala Kahn - infinite fury stack, poison immune, hard to evade specials
2) Groot - bleed immune, unblockable special, heal, bleed, multiple damage buffs

Moonhat
1) Jane Foster - shock, high stun chance, stagger, hard to evade specials

Comments

Fhfjghhggggjfhfjg

Netflix daredevil has such strong armour breaks and cyclops is just so effective

Hamin

Fhfjghhggggjfhfjg wrote: »

Netflix daredevil has such strong armour breaks and cyclops is just so effective

Yeah, but I couldn't justify them over the other top tier helixes and fists.

Epsilon3

Can you remove White Magneto from Helix? I believe Archangel has him beat badly:
Heal Block
Insane poison and Bleed Damage
Insane AAR
Lacks “damage control” but given his heavies are about as powerful as White-Mage’s special bleeds and his poisonous block adds even crazier damage I think that balances it out pretty heavily.

-Also White Deadpool vs Cable is a no-go.
Better power gain, regen, constant Degen, poison resistance and immunity, bleed-punish, Incinerate and Concussion, true strike. Lengthy Sp1
-Colossus… Emma? Immune to basically everything, massively heavy specials, and highly durable as well as inverted controls.

For Gears you can empirically replace Hulkbuster with the Iron Man of infinite wars
Lots of armor, lots of armor breaks, autoblock, Incinerate, Shock, Plasma, Heal Block, and Bleed/Cold immune

Fist
Just… I’m gonna say Gwenpool and Killmonger with zero context because wow.

Beaker: I actually kinda agree with that SpiderGwen. She gets a lot of flack for her Sp1 but overall she has solid damage output.

But Shehulk? How about pure hulk? Poison immune, amazing stun chaining and so much attack

For Fixit I’m torn between CAIW and Void.

For Saturn I say Hyperion beats your Kamala Khan

I’ll also see your Groot and tell you to KING him while you’re at it.

Epsilon3

I love how even when grasping at straws the weakest champs have ZERO niche

DNA3000

Hamin wrote: »

Gear
1) Iron Patriot - heal, armor up, armor break, multiple stuns
2) Hulkbuster - multiple armor ups and armor breaks
3) Civil Warrior - armor ups, bleed immune, poison immune, power drain, power lock, heal block, AAR

Stop making fun of the paperclip champs. We can't all be moonhats you know.

DTMelodicMetal

You forgot She-Hulk's fury on heavy attack

Hamin

While @Epsilon3 tried, no one has given any convincing argument to change my mind.

Epsilon3

Hamin wrote: »

While @Epsilon3 tried, no one has given any convincing argument to change my mind.

How can… bruh you at LEAST have to see that Cable vastly improves everything of White Deadpool

Plus you seem to have misfaith in quantity over quality. I know this is a joke post but man you have to roll with the punches too for it to work

Hamin

Epsilon3 wrote: »

Hamin wrote: »

While @Epsilon3 tried, no one has given any convincing argument to change my mind.

How can… bruh you at LEAST have to see that Cable vastly improves everything of White Deadpool

Plus you seem to have misfaith in quantity over quality. I know this is a joke post but man you have to roll with the punches too for it to work

You didn't even give a moonhat suggestion!

DTMelodicMetal

You forgot Falcon is also anti auto-block and anti defensive abilities like Abomination's poison and Electro's static shock. Falcon also has incinerate for those pesky bleed poison and shock immune champs.

V1PER1987

Hamin wrote: »

Epsilon3 wrote: »

Hamin wrote: »

While @Epsilon3 tried, no one has given any convincing argument to change my mind.

How can… bruh you at LEAST have to see that Cable vastly improves everything of White Deadpool

Plus you seem to have misfaith in quantity over quality. I know this is a joke post but man you have to roll with the punches too for it to work

You didn't even give a moonhat suggestion!

The best moonhat champ is Iron Fist clearly. Those armor breaks destroy even the mightiest of armor buffs like IMIW and Killmonger’s reverberation armor, and even crushes diamonds (Emma Frost diamond form).

Hamin

V1PER1987 wrote: »

Hamin wrote: »

Epsilon3 wrote: »

Hamin wrote: »

While @Epsilon3 tried, no one has given any convincing argument to change my mind.

How can… bruh you at LEAST have to see that Cable vastly improves everything of White Deadpool

Plus you seem to have misfaith in quantity over quality. I know this is a joke post but man you have to roll with the punches too for it to work

You didn't even give a moonhat suggestion!

The best moonhat champ is Iron Fist clearly. Those armor breaks destroy even the mightiest of armor buffs like IMIW and Killmonger’s reverberation armor, and even crushes diamonds (Emma Frost diamond form).

You make a compelling argument. I almost put him on the moonhat list.

CapWW2

I have nausea now

Hamin

CapWW2 wrote: »

I have nausea now

Take some Pepto.

Hector_1475

Cool thread! Like it!

ThanosBruh

Epsilon3 wrote: »

Can you remove White Magneto from Helix? I believe Archangel has him beat badly:
Heal Block
Insane poison and Bleed Damage
Insane AAR
Lacks “damage control” but given his heavies are about as powerful as White-Mage’s special bleeds and his poisonous block adds even crazier damage I think that balances it out pretty heavily.

-Also White Deadpool vs Cable is a no-go.
Better power gain, regen, constant Degen, poison resistance and immunity, bleed-punish, Incinerate and Concussion, true strike. Lengthy Sp1
-Colossus… Emma? Immune to basically everything, massively heavy specials, and highly durable as well as inverted controls.

For Gears you can empirically replace Hulkbuster with the Iron Man of infinite wars
Lots of armor, lots of armor breaks, autoblock, Incinerate, Shock, Plasma, Heal Block, and Bleed/Cold immune

Fist
Just… I’m gonna say Gwenpool and Killmonger with zero context because wow.

Beaker: I actually kinda agree with that SpiderGwen. She gets a lot of flack for her Sp1 but overall she has solid damage output.

But Shehulk? How about pure hulk? Poison immune, amazing stun chaining and so much attack

For Fixit I’m torn between CAIW and Void.

For Saturn I say Hyperion beats your Kamala Khan

I’ll also see your Groot and tell you to KING him while you’re at it.

It is a sarcastic post

Hamin

Hammerbro_64

Not to get technical, but that’s an Erlenmeyer Flask. NOT a beaker. Also, CW isn’t double immune. Not sure if u were joking or not. Were you referring to his offensive AAR?

Hamin

Hammerbro_64 wrote: »

Not to get technical, but that’s an Erlenmeyer Flask. NOT a beaker. Also, CW isn’t double immune. Not sure if u were joking or not. Were you referring to his offensive AAR?

Pffft.

I suppose the next thing you're going to tell me is that isn't a moonhat.

godsquad891

this post I see what you did.... I like the name change to name things how they are
for me its a toss up between
the teenager bitten by a spider in a billionaires onesie firing white stuff from his wrists (stark Spidey )
or the pessimistic depressed megalomaniac consciousness in a robot body (ultron)
or the Green alien loving orphan from space with a big gun (SL )
I can think of a lot more but it takes effort to type them all

Drstu3000

It's clearly a moonhat. And the Erlenmeyer flask is just known as "green"

XxLoganTDCxX

Khamala Khans fury's are do weak. Maybe because she's always smiling

McFernie

Hammerbro_64 wrote: »

Not to get technical, but that’s an Erlenmeyer Flask. NOT a beaker?

Heisenberg’s shadow is long, even after Mr White’s death...

Denslo500

I challenge the "God Tier" Summoners show their skills with more powerful champs like Falcon or Kamala Khan or Rhino. Forget chumps like Starky or Corvus.

Get Uncollected with Groot!
Beat Darkhawk with Hulkbuster!!

Let's see the Beyond, Beyond God Tier Champs shine.

XxOriginalxX

I can’t argue with facts. Though I will say I think Gear class has the best champs out of all of them, especially moonhat

Hamin

XxOriginalxX wrote: »

I can’t argue with facts. Though I will say I think Gear class has the best champs out of all of them, especially moonhat

Gear has always been OP while moonhat has been historically gimped.

With the nerf to moonhatic dispersion, this has only become more obvious.

V1PER1987

Hamin wrote: »

XxOriginalxX wrote: »

I can’t argue with facts. Though I will say I think Gear class has the best champs out of all of them, especially moonhat

Gear has always been OP while moonhat has been historically gimped.

With the nerf to moonhatic dispersion, this has only become more obvious.

I don’t know. I always felt like helix was cream of the crop. When you have a living breathing metal tank and a guy in a gold plated suit constantly taunting you, it’s tough to beat.

Hamin

V1PER1987 wrote: »

Hamin wrote: »

XxOriginalxX wrote: »

I can’t argue with facts. Though I will say I think Gear class has the best champs out of all of them, especially moonhat

Gear has always been OP while moonhat has been historically gimped.

With the nerf to moonhatic dispersion, this has only become more obvious.

I don’t know. I always felt like helix was cream of the crop. When you have a living breathing metal tank and a guy in a gold plated suit constantly taunting you, it’s tough to beat.

This is true. Solid facts, solid argument.

Duke_Silver

This is the perfect thread for Foxhero

Hamin

I would also like to acknowledge the OPness of Pure Fist.

The fist class becomes unstoppable with 5 ranks which is why everyone specs it.

Edit:
@Kabam Miike @Kabam Zibiit @Kabam Vydious @Kabam Lyra

Will we ever get a nerf to Pure Fist? I kind of think it's time.