Well, I see many more speaking up about it being too short. Indifference doesn't equate to desire for 1 week off either. The few that want to push through do not seem to outweigh those that want the 2 weeks off. Or so it seems.
Our alliance was looking forward to at least 2 weeks off from war. We’re a high gold 1 alliance and it’s not draining during war, it’s about how draining it is to do placement, make sure all members are happy and keep them sane. If it wasn’t for the officers caring about me, I would have left and went to a silver alliance. The game becomes a choir when you’re running war on Christmas Day, New Year’s Day, thanksgiving night. Also really annoying to have to run quest on those days. I understand it’s a business but if we don’t run during those days, we lose our usual ranks and possible tiers.
We ran war because of seasons. Last year we didn’t run war on Christmas or thanksgiving because it didn’t really matter.
2 weeks off 4 weeks on is a great schedule (honestly 3 is better but we can’t ask for too much) I’m going on vacation next week and would have loved to be off from war and be a back up. Now I have to run my account because you don’t want to give us the 2 weeks we should have.
Honestly, with the amount of pressure thats been built into Alliance Wars, you need a longer break. Alliances crumble and have to rebuild or die off. Long term players quit. Breaks are needed just for the longevity of the game.
So right! Should be zero, rewards can’t come fast enough. Too bad a small percentage of players are attempting to hold everyone else up because they choose to play at a level where they need to build resources in excess of the seasons length.
Zero only because (depending on where your ally lays tier-wise) it’s a waste of resources to use on an off-season match. Otherwise the week seems reasonable for anyone making roster changes
100% 1 week is too short, Kabam you are burning out everyone, we need a decent break in between AW, this is causing to much pressure on alliances, absolutely reconsider this please, the game was meant to be fun not a choir, you are killing any enjoyment I liked in Aw.
Omitting the profanity that was my initial reaction to this, I'm letting my alliance choose what we do through a poll and I'll likely be skipping it unless filler is needed.
We already were doing just 1 BG last war season because of the bleed over onto Christmas Day (which made me feel like such a Scrooge) and New Years Day due to how the whole mode works (war starting on Sunday, placement lasting most of Monday, and Attack Monday night/Tuesday). I felt the break between Season 5 and 6 should've been the rest of the month of December. Yes, not everyone celebrates Christmas (I don't) but that doesn't mean they will not be caught up doing family things or school things (like finals) or any end of year work things.
We aren't very high up (Silver 2-3) so we aren't going to get anything "good" anyway. That's fine because we aren't trying to be the best.
Hello! I'm a plat 3 player and I'd like to respectfully ask that the one week break be extended to a two week break. AW seasons is a very stressful part of the game that takes up nearly all of my resources. I rely on these two week breaks to recover my energy and my resources. I use this time to play other content, such as variant difficulty. With a one week break it is incredibly rushed and not relaxing at all. This is a scramble to get stuff ASAP before seasons or I risk getting kicked because I do not have the resources to play AW at the level my alliance requires. I want to be able to play and compete in AW seasons and the best way to do so is to have a two week recoup period. I need this time if I want to play this game. That you for reading kabam!
On a scale of importance I would say this two week break is more important than any changes to the current AW setup, including, and not limited to: a fix of the matchmaking system (whatever that entails), any AW global nodes or changed difficulty, the fixing of timing issues for AW matchmaking. I would argue this is more important than developing any new end game content because we end game players won't have time to play it without this break. PLEASE just delay AW one more week. I, and many others, would really appreciate this.
P.S. We would have more time to die in variant and spent units and money reviving XD
Definitely getting tired of such short off seasons. I need more time in between seasons to work on end game content like my final 2 paths of LOL and variant.
I didn’t even bother with Maze because of timing and other content which has better rewards still not finished.
Everyone is not in agreement that the shorter break is essential. There are players saying they are indifferent to the shorter break and some even saying they prefer the shorter break. You aren't saying you want them to listen to the players, you are demanding that they listen to specific players, and ignore the others. Personally, I'd be happier with a longer break, but that doesn't mean the players that don't suddenly became invisible to me.[/quote]
My reply to those not in agreement to an increased break is to try being an Officer. Or at the very least be appreciative of all the free and hard work their O’s are doing on their behalf.
Our words are likely to fall upon deaf ears. They waited til matchmaking was active to allow us this information. This SHOULD have been announced during the last week of Season 6, not today. We were told during the 1 week break between 5 and 6 they weren't ready to do the new Global Buffs and wanted to kick it off. Forgiven. But they also said we'd have 2 weeks to check out the new ones. New ones aren't ready again. That doesn't mean we need to jump right back into it after 1 week break AGAIN. Prove us wrong Kabam. Prove you're listening, and give us that 2nd week. We're not asking for blood here. We're asking for time. We had to push through the Holidays AFTER only having a week off. Now you're starting the year with what's essentially a lie. Don't tell us one thing and do something completely different after everyone made it CLEAR 1 week off was too little last time. The new Global Nodes aren't ready. That's FINE. That has 0 to do with giving us the extra week, as we had 2 weeks off before the Global Nodes even existed. If ANYTHING this would be beneficial for both the company and the playerbase. Would give the Kabam crew an extra week to figure things out for Season 8. Please, listen to us. The stress is real. It needent be increased.
Everyone is not in agreement that the shorter break is essential. There are players saying they are indifferent to the shorter break and some even saying they prefer the shorter break. You aren't saying you want them to listen to the players, you are demanding that they listen to specific players, and ignore the others. Personally, I'd be happier with a longer break, but that doesn't mean the players that don't suddenly became invisible to me.
Hmm. I would argue indifferent is a much different opinion then the majority of players who are struggling to maintain AW season resources. This break is a recoup time. How do you feel when your breaks get slashed with so little warning? It's not fun. That is what is happening here. I'm asking for some consideration, thats all.
with all this new game content coming out practically every day, there’s little time to catch your breath. burnout is real. the struggle is real. I started out playing about an hour a day, & lately I feel that 3-4 hours a day now is not enough time in to get all my goals met with all the new event quests, aq, aw, arena, dungeons etc...give us 2 weeks KABAM!!!
The alliance war grind got to me this season. I’m quitting the alliance I’ve been in for a year plus so I can take a break from it all. The constant logging on and checking line feels like a second job. None of this is new. I just think I finally put it together while sneaking away from family on Thanksgiving, Christmas, and New Year’s to do alliance ****.
Realistically, the minimal break just made the decision easier. If / when I do find myself needing to go back to an alliance, it would be nice to find one that coasts through 5x5 and skips war altogether. The glory is save on pots would buy al the t2a shards I’d ever need. I’d say I’d miss the t5b shards but it was never that many in Gold 1 anyway.
I decided to go on extended break just because i can't restock in one week off without spending real money. I can't compete with that.
And my last two seasons, i earned the absolute minimum rewards from my war crystals.
Its not worth the amount of boosts, healing potions, setting alarms to play, taking schedules bathroom breaks at work just to move in war, all for a few thousand fragments.
I'm 100% done with war competition. Thanks kabam. You stole the fun out of the competition. And burned me out.
So right! Should be zero, rewards can’t come fast enough. Too bad a small percentage of players are attempting to hold everyone else up because they choose to play at a level where they need to build resources in excess of the seasons length.
If you have the ability to play seasons back to back then I would argue you aren't playing for rewards on your level. If its easy enough for you to face roll AW then you're not being challenged and the rewards aren't that great if 'they can't come fast enough.' It isn't a small percentage of players that are struggling to maintain their AW season resources. Its a good chunk of players at all levels of the game. This break isn't just from seasons. It is also a recovery from the gifting event and all the holiday and new years madness. A way for alliances to pull themselves back together in time for the next season.
Our words are likely to fall upon deaf ears. They waited til matchmaking was active to allow us this information. This SHOULD have been announced during the last week of Season 6, not today. We were told during the 1 week break between 5 and 6 they weren't ready to do the new Global Buffs and wanted to kick it off. Forgiven. But they also said we'd have 2 weeks to check out the new ones. New ones aren't ready again. That doesn't mean we need to jump right back into it after 1 week break AGAIN. Prove us wrong Kabam. Prove you're listening, and give us that 2nd week. We're not asking for blood here. We're asking for time. We had to push through the Holidays AFTER only having a week off. Now you're starting the year with what's essentially a lie. Don't tell us one thing and do something completely different after everyone made it CLEAR 1 week off was too little last time. The new Global Nodes aren't ready. That's FINE. That has 0 to do with giving us the extra week, as we had 2 weeks off before the Global Nodes even existed. If ANYTHING this would be beneficial for both the company and the playerbase. Would give the Kabam crew an extra week to figure things out for Season 8. Please, listen to us. The stress is real. It needent be increased.
You conveniently missed out the part on Matchmaking optimizations
You do realize the seasons were 2 months long with the 2 week cooldown period originally, right?
I understand wanting the break, and understand the burnout (pretty sure everyone secretly is done with aw) what I am wondering is what could be done to allow for loyalty collecting that doesn’t force seasons down everyone’s throat.
Well it was 2 months long with 1 month cooldown period originally.
You do realize the seasons were 2 months long with the 2 week cooldown period originally, right?
I understand wanting the break, and understand the burnout (pretty sure everyone secretly is done with aw) what I am wondering is what could be done to allow for loyalty collecting that doesn’t force seasons down everyone’s throat.
Well it was 2 months long with 1 month cooldown period originally.
Ah...silly me on that one. Either way, the point of aw being the main source of loyalty (outside of the daily 1k from helping ally) for higher AQ maps is ridiculous
If map 6 weren’t so expensive I’d quit competitive war and focus exclusively on AQ. You’ve had many many players and even content creators say openly that the current war setup is burning out players, and fracturing alliances. Yet two offseasons in a row you cut the downtime in half? I appreciate all the cool stuff happening in game but this is really uncool. To top it off, boosts are still completely random and I haven’t gotten the boosts I need in weeks. Here’s to hoping they show up every day this week!
Exactly @Rope . I've seen mny a player retire due to the pressure from AW Seasons. I enjoy the competition. It is fun. However, there is such a thing as too much. As others have said, to remain competitive, you have to push through when the Season is on. As an Officer, it can be stressful keeping everything flowing forward. Between filling in open slots, defense layouts, updating the diversity lineups, making lane swaps when someone is unavailable, etc... it can get a little hectic. Throwing the Holidays in the mix, it was a ROUGH Season, and it would appear many were looking forward to a couple weeks off the grind.
When I initially announced to our Alliance earlier today that we'd be taking it easy this weekend and only running 1, MAYBE 2 wars... I got DMs thanking us (leadership) for it. We all just pushed through the Holidays full steam. A few players are STILL on vacation and we made it work none the less. As I said before, many are in agreement that 2 weeks would be much better than 1 off. I know we don't speak for everyone, but the majority seem to agree.
We can only hope that this gets taken into consideration. I do like the idea proposed, giving the Alliance a choice of Global Nodes. It would indeed make things interesting. I just can't seem to wrap my head around how giving us only 1 week off will help matters. You'd think 2 weeks off the Season would give everyone more time to get things in order. The players and Kabam. Maybe I'm missing something here. Just can't figure out how it pertains to the aforementioned things. I get that AW Season promotes more playing, and in turn, more items being spent. I get that. How that pertains to making changes to AW is beyond me.
The issue isn't just player burnout from playing multiple seasons with little break. A big problem is the very short time that alliances have for recruitment, which then exacerbates the burnout issue and affects entire alliances.
Players try to leave alliances after AQ ends.
And, in many cases, there's very little advance warning given. So, in practice, that leaves only the 3 days between AQs (if you're lucky!) to recruit replacements.
That means having to accept lower quality players, maybe even players whom nobody knows. If some of them turn out to be breaking the TOS then the whole alliance gets punished. If no replacements can be found then AQ and war must be run with fewer than 30, which adds a great deal of stress to those still in the alliance.
It's very easy for individuals to declare that they are going to take a break from burn out. It's not so easy for the players left behind.
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Our alliance was looking forward to at least 2 weeks off from war. We’re a high gold 1 alliance and it’s not draining during war, it’s about how draining it is to do placement, make sure all members are happy and keep them sane. If it wasn’t for the officers caring about me, I would have left and went to a silver alliance. The game becomes a choir when you’re running war on Christmas Day, New Year’s Day, thanksgiving night. Also really annoying to have to run quest on those days. I understand it’s a business but if we don’t run during those days, we lose our usual ranks and possible tiers.
We ran war because of seasons. Last year we didn’t run war on Christmas or thanksgiving because it didn’t really matter.
2 weeks off 4 weeks on is a great schedule (honestly 3 is better but we can’t ask for too much) I’m going on vacation next week and would have loved to be off from war and be a back up. Now I have to run my account because you don’t want to give us the 2 weeks we should have.
Zero only because (depending on where your ally lays tier-wise) it’s a waste of resources to use on an off-season match. Otherwise the week seems reasonable for anyone making roster changes
We already were doing just 1 BG last war season because of the bleed over onto Christmas Day (which made me feel like such a Scrooge) and New Years Day due to how the whole mode works (war starting on Sunday, placement lasting most of Monday, and Attack Monday night/Tuesday). I felt the break between Season 5 and 6 should've been the rest of the month of December. Yes, not everyone celebrates Christmas (I don't) but that doesn't mean they will not be caught up doing family things or school things (like finals) or any end of year work things.
We aren't very high up (Silver 2-3) so we aren't going to get anything "good" anyway. That's fine because we aren't trying to be the best.
On a scale of importance I would say this two week break is more important than any changes to the current AW setup, including, and not limited to: a fix of the matchmaking system (whatever that entails), any AW global nodes or changed difficulty, the fixing of timing issues for AW matchmaking. I would argue this is more important than developing any new end game content because we end game players won't have time to play it without this break. PLEASE just delay AW one more week. I, and many others, would really appreciate this.
P.S. We would have more time to die in variant and spent units and money reviving XD
I didn’t even bother with Maze because of timing and other content which has better rewards still not finished.
Give us a break guys
Everyone is not in agreement that the shorter break is essential. There are players saying they are indifferent to the shorter break and some even saying they prefer the shorter break. You aren't saying you want them to listen to the players, you are demanding that they listen to specific players, and ignore the others. Personally, I'd be happier with a longer break, but that doesn't mean the players that don't suddenly became invisible to me.[/quote]
My reply to those not in agreement to an increased break is to try being an Officer. Or at the very least be appreciative of all the free and hard work their O’s are doing on their behalf.
Hmm. I would argue indifferent is a much different opinion then the majority of players who are struggling to maintain AW season resources. This break is a recoup time. How do you feel when your breaks get slashed with so little warning? It's not fun. That is what is happening here. I'm asking for some consideration, thats all.
Realistically, the minimal break just made the decision easier. If / when I do find myself needing to go back to an alliance, it would be nice to find one that coasts through 5x5 and skips war altogether. The glory is save on pots would buy al the t2a shards I’d ever need. I’d say I’d miss the t5b shards but it was never that many in Gold 1 anyway.
And my last two seasons, i earned the absolute minimum rewards from my war crystals.
Its not worth the amount of boosts, healing potions, setting alarms to play, taking schedules bathroom breaks at work just to move in war, all for a few thousand fragments.
I'm 100% done with war competition. Thanks kabam. You stole the fun out of the competition. And burned me out.
If you have the ability to play seasons back to back then I would argue you aren't playing for rewards on your level. If its easy enough for you to face roll AW then you're not being challenged and the rewards aren't that great if 'they can't come fast enough.' It isn't a small percentage of players that are struggling to maintain their AW season resources. Its a good chunk of players at all levels of the game. This break isn't just from seasons. It is also a recovery from the gifting event and all the holiday and new years madness. A way for alliances to pull themselves back together in time for the next season.
You conveniently missed out the part on Matchmaking optimizations
While we’re at it let’s address the lacking rewards. AW season is 4 weeks of commitment and the rewards do not reflect that.
Well it was 2 months long with 1 month cooldown period originally.
Ah...silly me on that one. Either way, the point of aw being the main source of loyalty (outside of the daily 1k from helping ally) for higher AQ maps is ridiculous
When I initially announced to our Alliance earlier today that we'd be taking it easy this weekend and only running 1, MAYBE 2 wars... I got DMs thanking us (leadership) for it. We all just pushed through the Holidays full steam. A few players are STILL on vacation and we made it work none the less. As I said before, many are in agreement that 2 weeks would be much better than 1 off. I know we don't speak for everyone, but the majority seem to agree.
We can only hope that this gets taken into consideration. I do like the idea proposed, giving the Alliance a choice of Global Nodes. It would indeed make things interesting. I just can't seem to wrap my head around how giving us only 1 week off will help matters. You'd think 2 weeks off the Season would give everyone more time to get things in order. The players and Kabam. Maybe I'm missing something here. Just can't figure out how it pertains to the aforementioned things. I get that AW Season promotes more playing, and in turn, more items being spent. I get that. How that pertains to making changes to AW is beyond me.
Players try to leave alliances after AQ ends.
And, in many cases, there's very little advance warning given. So, in practice, that leaves only the 3 days between AQs (if you're lucky!) to recruit replacements.
That means having to accept lower quality players, maybe even players whom nobody knows. If some of them turn out to be breaking the TOS then the whole alliance gets punished. If no replacements can be found then AQ and war must be run with fewer than 30, which adds a great deal of stress to those still in the alliance.
It's very easy for individuals to declare that they are going to take a break from burn out. It's not so easy for the players left behind.