Tos/ privacy polocy

Why do you not inform us that you have made changes/ update these?
I would have thought you have to as this would effect the gdpr
Please explain @Kabam Miike @Kabam Zibiit @Kabam Lyra @Kabam Wolf @Kabam Wolf

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Hammerbro_64

Jester123 wrote: »

This is the first line and your tos says that but you hide the fact it’s changed,

“LAST UPDATE JANUARY 3 2019”

Try to read m’kay?
Also, what even is the question?
Are you saying kabam should have said, hey guys, check out the TOS again? Cause TOS pretty much only mean you can’t sue us for anything concerning our service, and most people who don’t try to skirt the rules don’t even need to worry about it

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Hammerbro_64

Nothing is self explanatory. If they don’t say that, they can get sued

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Demonzfyre

Jester123 wrote: »

Hammerbro_64 wrote: »

Nothing is self explanatory. If they don’t say that, they can get sued

They should have informed some members that the privacy polocy had been updated

Why? ToS documents can be fluid and change without playerbase consent at any time. You know where its at and you agree to abide by the ToS whenever you play the game. What eas changed that you are concerned about?

I really don't understand what you are complaining about.

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Demonzfyre

Jester123 wrote: »

Demonzfyre wrote: »

Jester123 wrote: »

Hammerbro_64 wrote: »

Nothing is self explanatory. If they don’t say that, they can get sued

They should have informed some members that the privacy polocy had been updated

Why? ToS documents can be fluid and change without playerbase consent at any time. You know where its at and you agree to abide by the ToS whenever you play the game. What eas changed that you are concerned about?

I really don't understand what you are complaining about.

Demonzfyre wrote: »

Jester123 wrote: »

Hammerbro_64 wrote: »

Nothing is self explanatory. If they don’t say that, they can get sued

They should have informed some members that the privacy polocy had been updated

Why? ToS documents can be fluid and change without playerbase consent at any time. You know where its at and you agree to abide by the ToS whenever you play the game. What eas changed that you are concerned about?

I really don't understand what you are complaining about.

I’m asking why they have not informed us or the changes/ updates to tos and privacy polocy, not sure what’s hard to understand about it?

It says when it was updated. Since when have they had to inform us? Its a posted document. As far as ive ever know, ToS changes dont have to be communicated just privacy policies.

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Demonzfyre

Jester123 wrote: »

Demonzfyre wrote: »

Jester123 wrote: »

Demonzfyre wrote: »

Jester123 wrote: »

Hammerbro_64 wrote: »

Nothing is self explanatory. If they don’t say that, they can get sued

They should have informed some members that the privacy polocy had been updated

Why? ToS documents can be fluid and change without playerbase consent at any time. You know where its at and you agree to abide by the ToS whenever you play the game. What eas changed that you are concerned about?

I really don't understand what you are complaining about.

Demonzfyre wrote: »

Jester123 wrote: »

Hammerbro_64 wrote: »

Nothing is self explanatory. If they don’t say that, they can get sued

They should have informed some members that the privacy polocy had been updated

Why? ToS documents can be fluid and change without playerbase consent at any time. You know where its at and you agree to abide by the ToS whenever you play the game. What eas changed that you are concerned about?

I really don't understand what you are complaining about.

I’m asking why they have not informed us or the changes/ updates to tos and privacy polocy, not sure what’s hard to understand about it?

It says when it was updated. Since when have they had to inform us? Its a posted document. As far as ive ever know, ToS changes dont have to be communicated just privacy policies.

Which country are you from?

USA

Demonzfyre

By the way, you should read the entire ToS. Says right here, they at least have to post when changes are made but CAN send a email or notification. They posted when the changes were made so they have met their criteria of what they need to do.

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IsItthough

@Demonzfyre is it legal though not to notify the player base that a change was made. I continued playing although I never knew a change was made as most don't read the TOS daily, so since I wasn't notified, I never agreed to the new terms. Now it really doesn't matter in the end as I'm going to play but I can see the OP concern, and do agree that if any major changes are made an email or in game message should be sent. These Im thinking didn't warrant that.

Demonzfyre

IsItthough wrote: »

@Demonzfyre is it legal though not to notify the player base that a change was made. I continued playing although I never knew a change was made as most don't read the TOS daily, so since I wasn't notified, I never agreed to the new terms. Now it really doesn't matter in the end as I'm going to play but I can see the OP concern, and do agree that if any major changes are made an email or in game message should be sent. These Im thinking didn't warrant that.

If you read it, it says by playing the game you accept the terms.

Demonzfyre

Jester123 wrote: »

Demonzfyre wrote: »

Jester123 wrote: »

Demonzfyre wrote: »

Jester123 wrote: »

Demonzfyre wrote: »

Jester123 wrote: »

Hammerbro_64 wrote: »

Nothing is self explanatory. If they don’t say that, they can get sued

They should have informed some members that the privacy polocy had been updated

Why? ToS documents can be fluid and change without playerbase consent at any time. You know where its at and you agree to abide by the ToS whenever you play the game. What eas changed that you are concerned about?

I really don't understand what you are complaining about.

Demonzfyre wrote: »

Jester123 wrote: »

Hammerbro_64 wrote: »

Nothing is self explanatory. If they don’t say that, they can get sued

They should have informed some members that the privacy polocy had been updated

Why? ToS documents can be fluid and change without playerbase consent at any time. You know where its at and you agree to abide by the ToS whenever you play the game. What eas changed that you are concerned about?

I really don't understand what you are complaining about.

I’m asking why they have not informed us or the changes/ updates to tos and privacy polocy, not sure what’s hard to understand about it?

It says when it was updated. Since when have they had to inform us? Its a posted document. As far as ive ever know, ToS changes dont have to be communicated just privacy policies.

Which country are you from?

USA

Then I can see the problem, this is an uk/eu law ( gdpr ) which means they should inform us but other countries don’t have the same laws, but this is a bit of a twist

So we can’t break there rules but they can break there own agreements and gdpr laws.

Yes, the notification is the date of change. Whats so hard to understand?

Maybe they changed some wording. Maube they changed something that didnt require them to notify the player base. Their legal stuff has always been pretty tight.

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Demonzfyre

Jester123 wrote: »

Demonzfyre wrote: »

Jester123 wrote: »

Demonzfyre wrote: »

Jester123 wrote: »

Demonzfyre wrote: »

Jester123 wrote: »

Demonzfyre wrote: »

Jester123 wrote: »

Hammerbro_64 wrote: »

Nothing is self explanatory. If they don’t say that, they can get sued

They should have informed some members that the privacy polocy had been updated

Why? ToS documents can be fluid and change without playerbase consent at any time. You know where its at and you agree to abide by the ToS whenever you play the game. What eas changed that you are concerned about?

I really don't understand what you are complaining about.

Demonzfyre wrote: »

Jester123 wrote: »

Hammerbro_64 wrote: »

Nothing is self explanatory. If they don’t say that, they can get sued

They should have informed some members that the privacy polocy had been updated

Why? ToS documents can be fluid and change without playerbase consent at any time. You know where its at and you agree to abide by the ToS whenever you play the game. What eas changed that you are concerned about?

I really don't understand what you are complaining about.

I’m asking why they have not informed us or the changes/ updates to tos and privacy polocy, not sure what’s hard to understand about it?

It says when it was updated. Since when have they had to inform us? Its a posted document. As far as ive ever know, ToS changes dont have to be communicated just privacy policies.

Which country are you from?

USA

Then I can see the problem, this is an uk/eu law ( gdpr ) which means they should inform us but other countries don’t have the same laws, but this is a bit of a twist

So we can’t break there rules but they can break there own agreements and gdpr laws.

Yes, the notification is the date of change. Whats so hard to understand?

Maybe they changed some wording. Maube they changed something that didnt require them to notify the player base. Their legal stuff has always been pretty tight.

I cant keep repeating the same thing as you don’t understand, the gdpr is a law effective in uk/eu and we all had to agree to it to carry on playing the game, this law states that any changes etc we should be notified, kabams tos/ privacy can’t over ride it.

I don't know how much clearer it can be for you. It says in the picture the minimal amount of clarification they need to do is post that it changed and they did. If you are so determined to be told what changed, send in a support ticket and ask.

Do you really think they are going to illegally do something on purpose?

JRock808

OP is 100% correct.

TOS are not legal contracts, but laws are law.

If the GDPR says you must send a notification when the TOS changes, then you must do it if you want to provide your service in those regions.

I had to agree to an updated TOS on some random app today In fact, and no, I'm not even in Europe.

When the TOS changes, launching the game should inform you of the changes and require agreement before the app collects any more data or allows you to do anything in it,

It doesn't matter what Kabam says or Canada says or the us says. Now they could hide the notification from those they aren't legally required to, but that seems to be more trouble than just telling everyone.

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Demonzfyre

Jester123 wrote: »

Demonzfyre wrote: »

Jester123 wrote: »

Demonzfyre wrote: »

Jester123 wrote: »

Demonzfyre wrote: »

Jester123 wrote: »

Demonzfyre wrote: »

Jester123 wrote: »

Demonzfyre wrote: »

Jester123 wrote: »

Hammerbro_64 wrote: »

Nothing is self explanatory. If they don’t say that, they can get sued

They should have informed some members that the privacy polocy had been updated

Why? ToS documents can be fluid and change without playerbase consent at any time. You know where its at and you agree to abide by the ToS whenever you play the game. What eas changed that you are concerned about?

I really don't understand what you are complaining about.

Demonzfyre wrote: »

Jester123 wrote: »

Hammerbro_64 wrote: »

Nothing is self explanatory. If they don’t say that, they can get sued

They should have informed some members that the privacy polocy had been updated

Why? ToS documents can be fluid and change without playerbase consent at any time. You know where its at and you agree to abide by the ToS whenever you play the game. What eas changed that you are concerned about?

I really don't understand what you are complaining about.

I’m asking why they have not informed us or the changes/ updates to tos and privacy polocy, not sure what’s hard to understand about it?

It says when it was updated. Since when have they had to inform us? Its a posted document. As far as ive ever know, ToS changes dont have to be communicated just privacy policies.

Which country are you from?

USA

Then I can see the problem, this is an uk/eu law ( gdpr ) which means they should inform us but other countries don’t have the same laws, but this is a bit of a twist

So we can’t break there rules but they can break there own agreements and gdpr laws.

Yes, the notification is the date of change. Whats so hard to understand?

Maybe they changed some wording. Maube they changed something that didnt require them to notify the player base. Their legal stuff has always been pretty tight.

I cant keep repeating the same thing as you don’t understand, the gdpr is a law effective in uk/eu and we all had to agree to it to carry on playing the game, this law states that any changes etc we should be notified, kabams tos/ privacy can’t over ride it.

I don't know how much clearer it can be for you. It says in the picture the minimal amount of clarification they need to do is post that it changed and they did. If you are so determined to be told what changed, send in a support ticket and ask.

Do you really think they are going to illegally do something on purpose?

I can’t answer that as I would have to be them but I do know they have broken some major gdpr laws already and they have a shock coming there way soon, but on the plus side the fine is only 4% of there yearly income and you have to remember google and Facebook have already been done for breaking the gdpr laws and that’s common knowledge if you look it up.

I'm sure they've broken "so many". I'm sure you have all the legal proof for that claim too. You seem like a brilliant legal mind.

Shrimkins

you guys are confusing ToS with privacy policy. ToS has nothing to do with personal information and therefore has nothing to do with GDPR.

ToS just lays out the terms that we (and kabam) must follow to continue to participate in their service. Aka, no account sharing, hacking, stealing, posting porn, ect, ect.

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