Witness the Great Revival! Act 6 Chapter 1 - Coming March 13th

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  • kikiFurieuxkikiFurieux Member Posts: 259 ★★★
    Markg25 said:

    100% with you on that and that should be all we say in this thread
  • Lovejoy72Lovejoy72 Member Posts: 1,858 ★★★★
    Hamin said:

    Haven't been reading all the stuff on this, but...

    I was under the impression the gates would not affect completion just exploration.

    I understand 4*s won't be allowed in Act 6... but, c'mon guys... how many of you brought 3*s into Act 5?

    Everywhere synergies or utility called for it? Sometimes just because the sig level on the 3* was better!
  • DarthHaasDarthHaas Member Posts: 385 ★★
    more curious than anything. Did variant cause this much uproar? or how come no one is upset about the nick fury event going on right now?

    Those two had restrictions enough to cause a lot of issues with smaller rosters. The first part of the nick fury one has a 40K ultron... I'm assuming it will get harder. Not sure what my champ selection will be for the last portion of the event but it will be restricted.
  • Maximus_SpankersonMaximus_Spankerson Member Posts: 445 ★★
    I would really like to hear a better explanation from Kaban regarding 4* restriction for act 6..

    Map 7 is supposed to be "challenging content", and I can take 3* there? Again, where is the logic in that?
  • Lovejoy72Lovejoy72 Member Posts: 1,858 ★★★★
    DarthHaas said:

    more curious than anything. Did variant cause this much uproar? or how come no one is upset about the nick fury event going on right now?

    Those two had restrictions enough to cause a lot of issues with smaller rosters. The first part of the nick fury one has a 40K ultron... I'm assuming it will get harder. Not sure what my champ selection will be for the last portion of the event but it will be restricted.

    Ilac commented on the difference between extra events and the central lore of the game. I equate it to marvel releasing a short film only in select theatres, versus gating endgame behind an NC-17 rating.
  • DarthHaasDarthHaas Member Posts: 385 ★★

    I would really like to hear a better explanation from Kaban regarding 4* restriction for act 6..

    Map 7 is supposed to be "challenging content", and I can take 3* there? Again, where is the logic in that?

    I believe their logic is clear. They do not want to make this easy to complete. How to do that..... restrict a lot of peoples synergy and utility champs.

    I have plenty of champs to take into act 6. I will be missing some of my normal synergy options and utility options. I don't use 4* regularly but they do come in handy.
  • Bidzy7Bidzy7 Member Posts: 369 ★★★
    xNig said:

    I agree with the majority of your points. However, you are also missing the passing of “time” where (before and after today) 5/6* shards are rampantly more easily accessible. A year back, 5*s were once a month openings. Today, you get 2-3 at the very least monthly, assuming we don’t have extra side quests which we have been having consistently and frequently.

    In addition, since A5 was released that enabled players to get their first 5/65, it has been about 2 years and we are looking at 3-4 R5s and lots more R4s due to the higher availability of rank up materials.

    For players who aren’t interested in joining an alliance and are interested in story mode only, it is natural that their progress is slower than those who do. Alliance events are mainly a trade off between effort and rewards.

    As you mentioned with regards to the Biohazard Nano Plague Abom, you were saying the only viable counter you could think of was Quake besides the obvious counter of Iceman. What about Dorm? A duped Corvus (since he can’t die from poison)? Rulk (10 heat charges hitting into block and taking Abom down ASAP)? Nebula (with her ability to shrug off shocks)? Ghost?

    I’m sure there are others whom I’ve not thought of. However, amongst the options, there are some who have been out for years. They might not be “god tier” so people might not think of ranking them up but they are viable options. (I even ranked up OML to deal with Morningstar 😊)

    As you mentioned, getting a 4* to r3 is relatively easy so we naturally phased out 3*s. Similarly, getting a 5* to r3 is relatively easy so we naturally... phase out 4*s?

    I disagree with the decision of roster gating A6, but I can also see certain reasons why Kabam might want to do that. As such, rather than vehemently opposing it, a calmer, more logical approach would be to wait for 6.1 to drop in 2 days, look at the maps then figure out how to work a way around it.

    From how I see it, it might potentially spark a lot of discussion within the community on how to handle certain node and champ combinations using the limited roster that each individual player has. (Using the UC Abom example again, the obvious answer to counter him would be Iceman. But what’s the fun in that? It’s boring because the counters are so outrightly obvious. 😂)
    I have taken all that into consideration in my post and have stated the resources available to to average player as of today and have tried to show the progression of a player from this instance in time not 2 years ago etc because if i did there would be less resources for ranking up and getting 5*. The rewards for completing content is a fixed amount. these are never adjusted to match the progress of the game. The same is also true of arena and EQ's.

    I would also say that the 2 5* crystals a month is right for the average player ( including special side events). It takes completing master and UC to form 1 5* crystal. I do AW and i also farm up milestones in arena 4* basic as often as i can but due to the time i would say I don't this every arena cycle. I would say i am a little more active then your average player as i can log in several times a day to do arena etc. Others play when they aren't working etc. I achieve 2 1/2 5* Crystals a month.

    Act 5.4 was released December 2017 so it has been just over a year since we could get our champs to r5.
    Uncollected was introduced a year ago today. so as i stated with the rewards you are looking at 8 months to take a champion from r3 to r5.
    So in the time of uncollected where we had t2a and t5 basics you would by now have a minimum of
    3 t5 Basics fully formed
    4 t2a
    lets say for argument sake we have managed to get an additional 8 t2a from calaender logins, side quests etc.

    The above is however dependent on completing every UC and being UC and finishing Act 5 as soon as it came out etc.

    So its not really unreasonable to say that after 1 year since uncollected people have been able to r5 another champion. So taking away from RNG people will have 2 r5/65 champions they have choosen to bring up. Some may have gotten lucky with their 4-5 gem and so have 3.

    Now where are the t2a coming from apart from those listed in my post to allow the average player to have lots of r4's ?

    You misread my iceman comment. I didn't say he was the only counter he was an example, i stated certain champs would counter that fight and used him as an example, to highlight my situation in that i did not have a counter for this fight at 5* until recently which took 2 years to get.
    I am fully aware that there are others such Emma Frost, Dormammu, Omega Red, Nebula, Ghost etc However out of 114 champions in the 5* pool there is 9 counters ( maybe i missed 1 or 2) so that gives us a 8% to pull a counter.

    Also your comment of phasing out 4*s in comparison to my 3* example is not the same. One factor in phasing out 3* was the ease to get 4* to a higher rank then the 3*. R3 4* better then R4 3*. To do the same i.e. getting a 5* to r4 is not easy. on average takes 4 months of farming for t2a to do that. If you refer to my calculations of t2a accumulated over the last year since uncollected that is a potential of 3 r4 instead of r5 any champ. A r3 5* is the same as a r5 4* So why would you replace the 4* with the 5* if its the same thing. Add into the mix that duping a 4* and max sigging is alot easier then 5* is part of the reason people have not replaced their 4* for r3 5*s.


    That's fair, everyone will view the change differently and is entitled to their opinion. Well if you don't protest to something coming in effect its harder to get it changed. An example is the whole debacle with those 2015 gems and not undoing the rank ups of those who exploited the bugged gems. If we don't say nothing now then the developers will continue to develop content around that, which has already been made clear to us in that further on into A6 they will add 5/6* restrictions gates.

    Yeah people will always look at different ways around certain nodes/challenges , e.g. using loki to take down 5.4 Ultron.
    But taking damage from something you have no control over is even less fun. The counters all don't work the same way. So Corvus you will still take damage but just won't die from it so you will have to be very aggressive and intercept alot. This is a different play style compared to Emma frost which will need to you constantly keep yourself in a state where the enemy has more power then you so throwing your sp1 straight away so you stay in Diamon form. Omega red will just thrive with the bleed and place lots of spores. Cap IW with synergy can purify debuffs. these are all different counters but they are counters. Not having any of these means you approach that fight with the strategy fight do damage die revive and heal up and repeat. Is that really an fun ?

  • Maximus_SpankersonMaximus_Spankerson Member Posts: 445 ★★
    DarthHaas said:

    I believe their logic is clear. They do not want to make this easy to complete. How to do that..... restrict a lot of peoples synergy and utility champs.

    I have plenty of champs to take into act 6. I will be missing some of my normal synergy options and utility options. I don't use 4* regularly but they do come in handy.
    Sure, I get that. I want to hear them state it.

    My favorite synergy is double power gain between OG Vision, whom I have at R5, with SW. SW isn't available as a 5* or 6*.
  • DarthHaasDarthHaas Member Posts: 385 ★★

    Sure, I get that. I want to hear them state it.

    My favorite synergy is double power gain between OG Vision, whom I have at R5, with SW. SW isn't available as a 5* or 6*.
    Yea good luck with them stating that! they have been laying pretty low lately. And I'm assuming they will lay low and let the act get released and have everyone focus on beating that vs the restrictions.

    Yea two of my main synergies (Ghost - Im missing 5* wasp so that is gonna suck. and Domino I'm missing massacre) that will effect me less then the ghost one but... fingers crossed for a wasp pull soon
  • DrZolaDrZola Member Posts: 9,559 ★★★★★
    xNig said:

    Don’t worry about the pulls and just have fun. With no expectation comes no disappointment. I’ve had my fair share of bad pulls as well but because almost 80% of my 4*s are maxed sig, I get to open 3-4 5*s monthly from all the places I get to acquire shards. It takes time to build a roster so just hang in there and have fun.

    Falcon’s dps is pretty meh but he has pretty good utility. I’m actually contemplating bringing him, amongst other options, up to R4 since I’m lacking a true strike champ. Like you said, just gotta roll with what you have.
    Certainly does. Unevenness of 5* pulls can give you tremendous depth but meager roster breadth—even though I’ve probably hit an easy 4-5 5*’s a month lately given all the special quests. That’s been my story since last summer, when growth simply stopped dead in its tracks. I’d trade several of my god-tier redupes for a viable 5* role player champ.

    All good. Like I said, I’m willing to listen to what the game is telling me. And right now it sounds like it’s telling me 75 degree weather is around the corner...

    Dr. Zola
  • DarthHaasDarthHaas Member Posts: 385 ★★
    Lovejoy72 said:

    Ilac commented on the difference between extra events and the central lore of the game. I equate it to marvel releasing a short film only in select theatres, versus gating endgame behind an NC-17 rating.

    Good point. Makes Sense!
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  • axelelf_1axelelf_1 Member Posts: 775 ★★★
    DarthHaas said:

    I believe their logic is clear. They do not want to make this easy to complete. How to do that..... restrict a lot of peoples synergy and utility champs.

    I have plenty of champs to take into act 6. I will be missing some of my normal synergy options and utility options. I don't use 4* regularly but they do come in handy.
    I’m only out one champ, my 4* killmonger for sabertooth. What pisses me off is that I ranked up tons of 4*s over their 5* counterparts because I’d never r4 the 5* version. These are situational champs. Now I can’t use them. However, I’m very empathetic to others with terrible luck but serious skills who are being royally screwed.
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  • BillLisBackBillLisBack Member Posts: 25
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    Kabam has responded by saying “Let them eat cake”!

    Look at all the 4* offers that just dropped today.
  • BadroseBadrose Member Posts: 781 ★★★
    What about... RANKDOWN TICKETS? :D
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