is deep wounds worth investing in?

scxoxoscxoxo Member Posts: 109 ★
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i currently have 1 point in dw and 2 in assassin. just yesterday i pulled a 5* domino, which is why i’m considering dw. i also have a 5/50 domino and 4/40 aa, but other than that i don’t have good bleed champs. i don’t grind arena so i won’t get units frequently, meaning that i won’t be able to quickly max both assassin and dw. should i continue with assassin or put a few points in deep wounds?

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  • scxoxoscxoxo Member Posts: 109 ★
    OneManArmy said:

    yes yes yes

    even better than assassin? i don’t have a lot of bleed champs
  • Fred_JoeityFred_Joeity Member Posts: 1,168 ★★★
    I’d say yes, but Assassins is a bit better since it applies to all champs while deep wounds is only really effective with short bleeds. Max both of them if you can
  • V1PER1987V1PER1987 Member Posts: 3,474 ★★★★★
    Deep wounds is a much better investment than assassin in my own humble opinion. A lot of great attackers use bleeds, like Blade, GP, Sabretooth, Domino, AA, Hawkeye, X-23, etc. It helps to give their bleeds a lot extra damage and effectiveness. While you may not have a lot of these champs now they will be ready to go once you get them.
  • REiiGN15REiiGN15 Member Posts: 120 ★
    I think it's so weird ppl just don't do arena that much, IT GIVES YOU THE MOST THINGS the game has to offer. ISO, units, gold, champions, etc.
  • Fred_JoeityFred_Joeity Member Posts: 1,168 ★★★
    Arenas a bit tedious though. But if you don’t have enough units, just keep saving. You should be able to get the 800 or so units you need to unlock the next level by the time you get your next mastery point just by doing eq and story
  • scxoxoscxoxo Member Posts: 109 ★
    V1PER1987 said:

    Deep wounds is a much better investment than assassin in my own humble opinion. A lot of great attackers use bleeds, like Blade, GP, Sabretooth, Domino, AA, Hawkeye, X-23, etc. It helps to give their bleeds a lot extra damage and effectiveness. While you may not have a lot of these champs now they will be ready to go once you get them.

    so even now without many bleed champs it would still be worth putting points in more than assassin?
    REiiGN15 said:

    I think it's so weird ppl just don't do arena that much, IT GIVES YOU THE MOST THINGS the game has to offer. ISO, units, gold, champions, etc.

    i know a lot of people do arena, i usually do the first 2 milestones but i am rather busy and don’t have much time to grind, so i rely on quests
    Fred_Joeity said:

    I’d say yes, but Assassins is a bit better since it applies to all champs while deep wounds is only really effective with short bleeds. Max both of them if you can

    that’s what i plan to do in the future yes, but at this point in time i’m assuming that assassin would be better to invest in first?
  • V1PER1987V1PER1987 Member Posts: 3,474 ★★★★★
    I would say if you have at least 2-3 champs you consistently use who have bleed, then yes it’s worth it. Deep wounds increases your damage output of those champs significantly and you don’t have to do anything extra, just fight normally with those champs. If you really only have Domino and AA then maybe not. If I had those two, I would but that’s just me. DW helps AA’s bleeds last longer, which gives you more time to trigger poisons to setup neurotoxins. That’s in addition to the bleeds themselves lasting longer and doing more damage. For me personally I think DW is a top 3 mastery and assassin isn’t.
  • Fred_JoeityFred_Joeity Member Posts: 1,168 ★★★
    Assassins is also mostly useful against giant health pools, while deep wounds is good with most bleed champs. I’m personally going for assassins since my bleed champions all have longer bleeds, making it slightly less useful. It works wonders with short bleeds like blade sp2 and Carnage though. Really all depends on your roster and preferences
  • LordRaymondLordRaymond Member Posts: 33 ★
    With most fights, assassin is kind if useless, only activates at 18%. At this point, the fight is basically over 😐
  • G0311G0311 Member Posts: 913 ★★★
    Yes absolutely, I've changed my masteries many times trying different things, and what I found out is DW max is staple for damage put.
  • G0311G0311 Member Posts: 913 ★★★
    LordRaymond said:

    With most fights, assassin is kind if useless, only activates at 18%. At this point, the fight is basically over 😐

    Not on hard content or enemies with big health pools or if they have unblockable at the end or regen at the end. Remember also lowers the enemy's , ability accuracy. I've had 5 in mine but now 4. I've noticed a big difference when not having it.
  • Ivanka_HumpalotIvanka_Humpalot Member Posts: 51 ★
    If you don't use bleed champs then obviously Deep Wounds isn't going to do anything for you. But if you have and want to make the most out of.... Blade, GwenPool, Carnage, Venom, Black Panther, Drax, Wolverine, X-23, Aegon, Medusa, Gamora, Domino, Killmonger, Deadpool, Sabretooth aka some of the best champs in the game, then absolutely Deep Wounds is worth it. Personally I have 5/5 in Deep Wounds and only 1/5 in Assassinate because the first point in the latter is worth more than the other 4 points. Some champs benefit a lot more from deep wounds than others but it's always good. Blade, Archangel, GwenPool, Carnage, Medusa and Domino are especially reliant on it. If you don't have any of them, then, it's probably safe not to worry about it. Domino, Archangel, and Blade are my top 3 champs so maybe I'm biased.
  • Ivanka_HumpalotIvanka_Humpalot Member Posts: 51 ★
    oh I forgot it was also amazing with Elektra. She was my first rank 4 5*...
  • Ryuichi_01Ryuichi_01 Member Posts: 123 ★
    REiiGN15 said:

    I think it's so weird ppl just don't do arena that much, IT GIVES YOU THE MOST THINGS the game has to offer. ISO, units, gold, champions, etc.

    At least we manage our time correctly.
  • winterthurwinterthur Member Posts: 8,059 ★★★★★
    Ryuichi_01 said:

    REiiGN15 said:

    I think it's so weird ppl just don't do arena that much, IT GIVES YOU THE MOST THINGS the game has to offer. ISO, units, gold, champions, etc.

    At least we manage our time correctly.
    Agrees it is hard to juggle type of game mode to play with limited time. For this month, I hardly play the monthly EQ.
  • SDPSDP Member Posts: 1,622 ★★★★
    One point in Assassin is pretty valuable.
  • scxoxoscxoxo Member Posts: 109 ★
    Ivanka_Humpalot said:

    If you don't use bleed champs then obviously Deep Wounds isn't going to do anything for you. But if you have and want to make the most out of.... Blade, GwenPool, Carnage, Venom, Black Panther, Drax, Wolverine, X-23, Aegon, Medusa, Gamora, Domino, Killmonger, Deadpool, Sabretooth aka some of the best champs in the game, then absolutely Deep Wounds is worth it. Personally I have 5/5 in Deep Wounds and only 1/5 in Assassinate because the first point in the latter is worth more than the other 4 points. Some champs benefit a lot more from deep wounds than others but it's always good. Blade, Archangel, GwenPool, Carnage, Medusa and Domino are especially reliant on it. If you don't have any of them, then, it's probably safe not to worry about it. Domino, Archangel, and Blade are my top 3 champs so maybe I'm biased.

    if domino is the only bleed champ in my main roster then is deep wounds still worth it? i have an unduped 4/40 aa that i use occasionally... or should i put my mastery points elsewhere?
  • phillgreenphillgreen Member Posts: 4,111 ★★★★★
    There arent many masteries that make a lick of difference.

    Get deep wounds.
  • Skrull_LordSkrull_Lord Member Posts: 11
    edited August 2019
    I only have AA, and Killmonger. They are by far my MVP's because of Deep Wounds. It doesn't take 10 champs to make it worth it, that's what great about Deep Wounds, just 2 or 3 good ones and your set.
  • Denslo500Denslo500 Member Posts: 905 ★★★
    Definitely get Deep Wounds.
  • Skrull_LordSkrull_Lord Member Posts: 11
    I've tried lots of different mastery builds, Deep wounds maxed moved most bleed champs to the top of your lineup. plus lots of champs have bleed on specials and you will be surprised how many it effects.
  • Mainer123Mainer123 Member Posts: 529 ★★
    If you like your bleed champs. Absolutely get deep wounds
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