It is not more ethical to take advantage of people much farther below. It is anything but. My own personal view is it's cowardly. People can't stand the idea of playing fairly and losing fairly, so they try to use the system for an unfair advantage. The reality of it is, it is not harmless. The people who are being taken advantage of are playing honestly within a Matchmaking system they have no control over. They are playing and fighting with the trust that the system is designed to Match them accordingly. They're doing the best they can, and losing to Allies that shouldn't be in their vicinity, and that costs them potential Points for their own Seasons efforts. Points they would have had a more fair chance at earning had people not taken the weak route and used them for their own gain.
If the alliance was 30 kids who only had 2 months to live and they wanted to tank an offseason so their last season could be the best season they could play, would that be morally wrong? Ethical dilemma right there 🧐
The best season they could play would be to play fairly. Again, apply your analogy to anything. No one want to upset the dying children, so I guess we shouldn't have any rules or boundaries as it might upset the children's dying wish. Why are you trolling?
No. You're not looking at it in all seriousness. You're trying to make a mockery about the fact that it's wrong. It IS wrong. Both wrong for the advantage, and wrong for the people who get trampled in the process. You can use morality as a platform, but unfair advantages are a real issue in games.
It is not more ethical to take advantage of people much farther below. It is anything but. My own personal view is it's cowardly. People can't stand the idea of playing fairly and losing fairly, so they try to use the system for an unfair advantage. The reality of it is, it is not harmless. The people who are being taken advantage of are playing honestly within a Matchmaking system they have no control over. They are playing and fighting with the trust that the system is designed to Match them accordingly. They're doing the best they can, and losing to Allies that shouldn't be in their vicinity, and that costs them potential Points for their own Seasons efforts. Points they would have had a more fair chance at earning had people not taken the weak route and used them for their own gain.
If the alliance was 30 kids who only had 2 months to live and they wanted to tank an offseason so their last season could be the best season they could play, would that be morally wrong? Ethical dilemma right there 🧐
The best season they could play would be to play fairly. Again, apply your analogy to anything. No one want to upset the dying children, so I guess we shouldn't have any rules or boundaries as it might upset the children's dying wish. Why are you trolling?
Not trolling, it’s an ethics question. And it’s completely within the rules
It is not more ethical to take advantage of people much farther below. It is anything but. My own personal view is it's cowardly. People can't stand the idea of playing fairly and losing fairly, so they try to use the system for an unfair advantage. The reality of it is, it is not harmless. The people who are being taken advantage of are playing honestly within a Matchmaking system they have no control over. They are playing and fighting with the trust that the system is designed to Match them accordingly. They're doing the best they can, and losing to Allies that shouldn't be in their vicinity, and that costs them potential Points for their own Seasons efforts. Points they would have had a more fair chance at earning had people not taken the weak route and used them for their own gain.
If the alliance was 30 kids who only had 2 months to live and they wanted to tank an offseason so their last season could be the best season they could play, would that be morally wrong? Ethical dilemma right there 🧐
The best season they could play would be to play fairly. Again, apply your analogy to anything. No one want to upset the dying children, so I guess we shouldn't have any rules or boundaries as it might upset the children's dying wish. Why are you trolling?
Not trolling, it’s an ethics question. And it’s completely within the rules
Well then we don't want them playing the game unethically. The best case scenario would be for them to play the game fairly, and stop the tanking/shell groups from manipulating the game and screwing them in their last season of play.
If it’s wrong then the rules should be changed. Until then it can’t be wrong because it isn’t breaking the rules. Is it wrong for a team to run out the clock at the end of a football game? Is it wrong to foul a terrible free throw shooter at the end of a basketball game?
If it’s wrong then the rules should be changed. Until then it can’t be wrong because it isn’t breaking the rules. Is it wrong for a team to run out the clock at the end of a football game? Is it wrong to foul a terrible free throw shooter at the end of a basketball game?
The Mods have already stated quite clearly that it violates the spirit of War and that the game team is discussing ways of stopping it. Also exploits are specifically against the rules. Gaming the matchmaking system in order to stomp lower alliances is an exploit.
Losing wars off season and thinking that will help in next season is a terrible mistake and bad leadership... Losing wars will bring ally in lower tier causing low multipliers in season points.
Once Kabam clearly states that Tanking is against the rules and punishes those who tank then it will be “wrong”. Until then it is just a part of the game that sucks.
Once Kabam clearly states that Tanking is against the rules and punishes those who tank then it will be “wrong”. Until then it is just a part of the game that sucks.
They've already stated that they're monitoring this behavior, and that it does not reflect the spirit of fair play. They also commented that it's not an easy situation to address. For someone who doesn't engage in it, you're sure going to hard lengths to justify it.
I believe that people who go at any lengths to gain an advantage in a video game are compensating for something outside the game but I’m not going get upset over it.
harm noun 1. physical injury, especially that which is deliberately inflicted.
Where to start. First, you only quoted the very first line of the definition, which is only a partial definition. The full definition states that harm is a) physical injury, b) material damage, or c) actual or potential ill effect or danger.
Second, even that clipped definition states "especially" when deliberate, it doesn't define harm to be "deliberate physical injury." So your own improper out of context quote disagrees with you.
Third, you quoted the definition of the noun "harm" but "I’ll make sure to have 911 on speed dial the next time I get harmed by a tanking alliance" uses the word as a verb. The verb definition from the exact same source you improperly quoted (Google) states:
verb verb: harm; 3rd person present: harms; past tense: harmed; past participle: harmed; gerund or present participle: harming 1. physically injure. "the villains didn't harm him" synonyms: injure, hurt, wound, maltreat, mistreat, misuse, ill-treat, ill-use, abuse, molest, inflict pain on, inflict suffering on, handle/treat roughly, do violence to, lay a finger on; More antonyms: benefit, improve damage the health of. "smoking when pregnant can harm your baby" have an adverse effect on. "this could harm his Olympic prospects" synonyms: injure, hurt, wound, maltreat, mistreat, misuse, ill-treat, ill-use, abuse, molest, inflict pain on, inflict suffering on, handle/treat roughly, do violence to, lay a finger on; More antonyms: benefit, improve
So basically: to harm is to a) physically injury, b) damage the health of, or c) have an adverse effect on. This is something that I don't think we really needed to use a dictionary for, as I'm pretty sure everyone reading has the general idea of what "to harm" means, and generally agrees with that definition. Except you.
I’m not justifying it at all, I’m stating that it’s not something to get upset about and not technically wrong at this point and time.
Debating whether or not it is something to get upset about is pointless. Telling someone who is upset that they ought not to be is annoying. And it's an exploit, currently punished or not, so you are wrong. Cheers.
It’s not really an unfair advantage when you can easily do the same thing and gain the same advantage. The only reason you think it’s unfair is because you say it is. Is it unfair to place an IMIW as war boss if the other alliances don’t have the skill or champs to beat him? It’s an unfair advantage built into the mechanics of the game, just like tanking a season is.
It’s not really an unfair advantage when you can easily do the same thing and gain the same advantage. The only reason you think it’s unfair is because you say it is. Is it unfair to place an IMIW as war boss if the other alliances don’t have the skill or champs to beat him? It’s an unfair advantage built into the mechanics of the game, just like tanking a season is.
So Stealing is not wrong because everyone who is stolen from can do it too? That's awesome. I have to go now. See you in 5-10.
It’s not really an unfair advantage when you can easily do the same thing and gain the same advantage. The only reason you think it’s unfair is because you say it is. Is it unfair to place an IMIW as war boss if the other alliances don’t have the skill or champs to beat him? It’s an unfair advantage built into the mechanics of the game, just like tanking a season is.
It would be counterproductive for many lower alliances that are getting screwed to tank. No one tanks in order to achieve Gold 1. The fact that some players in sports could also take steroids doesn't make it not an unfair advantage for the ones that do. That's just a lame way to justify cheating.
It’s not really an unfair advantage when you can easily do the same thing and gain the same advantage. The only reason you think it’s unfair is because you say it is. Is it unfair to place an IMIW as war boss if the other alliances don’t have the skill or champs to beat him? It’s an unfair advantage built into the mechanics of the game, just like tanking a season is.
So Stealing is not wrong because everyone who is stolen from can do it too? That's awesome. I have to go now. See you in 5-10.
Ethics 101 - stealing a loaf of bread to feed a hungry child.
Tanking a season to save resources, stress and time to spend quality time with loved ones.
It’s not really an unfair advantage when you can easily do the same thing and gain the same advantage. The only reason you think it’s unfair is because you say it is. Is it unfair to place an IMIW as war boss if the other alliances don’t have the skill or champs to beat him? It’s an unfair advantage built into the mechanics of the game, just like tanking a season is.
So Stealing is not wrong because everyone who is stolen from can do it too? That's awesome. I have to go now. See you in 5-10.
Ethics 101 - stealing a loaf of bread to feed a hungry child.
Tanking a season to save resources, stress and time to spend quality time with loved ones.
What a garbage analogy. Comparing a starving person to someone who wants better rewards without using items than they have the ability to otherwise get. Play a lower level of war. You are saving resources at the expense of lower alliances who will have to use more to get through your defense or else have their season screwed by failing to clear the map.
It’s not really an unfair advantage when you can easily do the same thing and gain the same advantage. The only reason you think it’s unfair is because you say it is. Is it unfair to place an IMIW as war boss if the other alliances don’t have the skill or champs to beat him? It’s an unfair advantage built into the mechanics of the game, just like tanking a season is.
So Stealing is not wrong because everyone who is stolen from can do it too? That's awesome. I have to go now. See you in 5-10.
Ethics 101 - stealing a loaf of bread to feed a hungry child.
Tanking a season to save resources, stress and time to spend quality time with loved ones.
You're equating cheating the system to overpower people much weaker for Season Points, with stealing a loaf of bread to feed a starving child. Just a heads up, it's not just a River in Egypt.
In fact, this is not the first time the issue has been addressed. 2* Wars were a thing once, and they spoke on that, and put an end to it not long after. The argument that it's not agaisnt the rules is perforated.
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For someone who doesn't engage in it, you're sure going to hard lengths to justify it.
Tanking a season to save resources, stress and time to spend quality time with loved ones.
Just a heads up, it's not just a River in Egypt.