Problem with Human Torch
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Here is my problem with Torch.
An entire class of champions is terrible against him. Not just one or two champs, but an entire class. You can’t even use a Mystic against him in the latter parts of the Master event quest, and forget using one against him in UC or Epic difficulties of Negative Zone quests.
It all just seems too OP if you ask me. No other champ out there negates an entire class like he does at these levels.
Secondly, it doesn’t even make sense. Energy based attacks make sense, but not all Mystic Champion attacks deal energy damage. The vast majority don’t.
It’s just a poor mechanic and it unbalanced the game further. Mystic champions already are becoming less and less relevant and now this.
An entire class of champions is terrible against him. Not just one or two champs, but an entire class. You can’t even use a Mystic against him in the latter parts of the Master event quest, and forget using one against him in UC or Epic difficulties of Negative Zone quests.
It all just seems too OP if you ask me. No other champ out there negates an entire class like he does at these levels.
Secondly, it doesn’t even make sense. Energy based attacks make sense, but not all Mystic Champion attacks deal energy damage. The vast majority don’t.
It’s just a poor mechanic and it unbalanced the game further. Mystic champions already are becoming less and less relevant and now this.
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And Annihilus dies so quick against Mystic champions and their Nullify abilities. Sure, not so much the one in the EQ, but that's just because of Mystic Conditioning. Seriously. Imagine if mystic conditioning wasn't there; Sym Supreme would be so good against him...
Mephisto, GR, Sym Supreme, magik, just to name a few, they are not becoming less relevant, definitely not less so because you cannot easily attack at class disadvantage, note it does not help him when he is attacking, only when he is defending so you can generally see where it is coming from.
Kingpin is a bit more straight forward, he simply converts the incinerate debuffs into Rage and he has class advantage. Then you just slap Torch with the special 1 and he also has reduced defensive ability accuracy, and then you just brawl until he dies.
But yeah I understand that having another champion with unavoidable damage is kind of annoying.
Similar with Torch. If you bring mystic champs, he's gonna gain heaps of Smoulder Passives. But if you bring a skill champ, you're usually gonna be able to bleed them (yes not all skill champs can bleed, but most of them do) which reduces the duration of his incinerate if you do get hit.
And then you have Sentinel. Bring in a mutant, and you're gonna have a bad time. 8 analysis charges if you repeat the same movement more than once, and 40 if he's awakened and you're spamming the same special repeatedly. But if you bring a cosmic champion, they're gonna take 4x as long to get to max analysis.
There are a ton of champions where bringing in different classes have a different effect on the battle. And it's a nice feature imo. Yeah sure sometimes it sucks, like how you can't Slow skill champs with she-hulk, but it is what it is, and one can play around it if they play with different champions. And I like that aspect of the game. (Despite the fact that I can't seem to get a good tech champion to save my life)
And now it‘s time for the people who insist to learn to evade 4(!) differently timed shots (i.e., his SP1) approximately 20 times during one fight in a bugged (maximally lagged) game. Yeah, thanks for that.