I'm not entirely sure the attack bonus while stunned is applying consistently, but I e only tested it a few times.
There is also a completely random factor with domino... random in mcoc, what!? But it can make her different from fight to fight. Can end some in 12 hits, then do it again and need 20.
Some empirical data points would be great if anyone can be arsed!
So this is what I found. Seatins Domino has twice the rating of your domino so I would expect her to deal more damage If you were talking about a different Video please just link it here. Thanks
You can use any domino really. 3h:13m:00, my domino is now like his r5/65 and I don't see even close numbers. So if you wanna prove to us that domino is good, feel free to r5 domino and show us your gameplay
So this is what I found. Seatins Domino has twice the rating of your domino so I would expect her to deal more damage If you were talking about a different Video please just link it here. Thanks
You can use any domino really. 3h:13m:00, my domino is now like his r5/65 and I don't see even close numbers. So if you wanna prove to us that domino is good, feel free to r5 domino and show us your gameplay
HE IS USING BOOSTS!!!
I know! Thing is like I said, she don't crit often like she did before, and also as I said, sowh us your Domino gameplay to prove that you are right. Thanks.
So this is what I found. Seatins Domino has twice the rating of your domino so I would expect her to deal more damage If you were talking about a different Video please just link it here. Thanks
You can use any domino really. 3h:13m:00, my domino is now like his r5/65 and I don't see even close numbers. So if you wanna prove to us that domino is good, feel free to r5 domino and show us your gameplay
HE IS USING BOOSTS!!!
I know! Thing is like I said, she don't crit often like she did before, and also as I said, sowh us your Domino gameplay to prove that you are right. Thanks.
So first its her incinerate (which was bugged), then its her bleed then its her damage and now its her crit chance? Why did you talk about numbers first if you knew that his domino was boosted and yours wasnt? You should always try to say exactly what the problem is and not talk around it. Now how can I proof to you that her crit rate isnt worse or better how can YOU proof that it is?
So this is what I found. Seatins Domino has twice the rating of your domino so I would expect her to deal more damage If you were talking about a different Video please just link it here. Thanks
You can use any domino really. 3h:13m:00, my domino is now like his r5/65 and I don't see even close numbers. So if you wanna prove to us that domino is good, feel free to r5 domino and show us your gameplay
HE IS USING BOOSTS!!!
I know! Thing is like I said, she don't crit often like she did before, and also as I said, sowh us your Domino gameplay to prove that you are right. Thanks.
So first its her incinerate (which was bugged), then its her bleed then its her damage and now its her crit chance? Why did you talk about numbers first if you knew that his domino was boosted and yours wasnt? You should always try to say exactly what the problem is and not talk around it. Now how can I proof to you that her crit rate isnt worse or better how can YOU proof that it is?
Lmao, if you scroll back this chat you'll see what i wrote since begining. Her damage ratio isn't same. Show us opposite. Don't want to waste any more words on you. See ya.
So what were you expecting there? Which numbers are wrong? Do you have a Video from before the last patch? This showcase here really doesnt show anything
You literally don't know anything about this champion. An R4 duped Domino should have killed that MK with one heavy. There is a plethora of vids out there showcasing stuff just like this, Honestly, you even fighting this is insane. There is clearly something wrong here with that. You're trolling and its not funny, I'm flagging your comments
So what were you expecting there? Which numbers are wrong? Do you have a Video from before the last patch? This showcase here really doesnt show anything
You literally don't know anything about this champion. An R4 duped Domino should have killed that MK with one heavy. There is a plethora of vids out there showcasing stuff just like this, Honestly, you even fighting this is insane. There is clearly something wrong here with that. You're trolling and its not funny, I'm flagging your comments
So she didnt crit for 4 hits in a row and that means shes nerfed? Interesting logic
So what were you expecting there? Which numbers are wrong? Do you have a Video from before the last patch? This showcase here really doesnt show anything
You literally don't know anything about this champion. An R4 duped Domino should have killed that MK with one heavy. There is a plethora of vids out there showcasing stuff just like this, Honestly, you even fighting this is insane. There is clearly something wrong here with that. You're trolling and its not funny, I'm flagging your comments
So she didnt crit for 4 hits in a row and that means shes nerfed? Interesting logic
That's not what we are saying, there are inconsistencies with her incinerate and damage output, noticeable changes after this patch. In general there are other inconsistencies with crits and applying debuffs with other champs I have noticed. There are open threads everywhere about this. Regardless, the fact is that there is a enough push-back and people coming to the forums to raise this issue to make the claim that something is up. Also, if you hang out around forums often you will notice that whenever threads are open and it is very apparent that they are just complaints for the sake of complaining, the mods close them, bec they are not conducive to a healthy forum environment, likewise, when issues are fixed, threads are closed as well. The fact that this thread is still open and that mods are commenting and willing to here people is evident that there is something going on and that they are still trying to figure something out. Even the mods are more willing to listen than you are, who do you think you are? If you don't have an issue then forget it, go play and ave fun. You're literally here for giggles, and it's honestly annoying.
That's not what we are saying, there are inconsistencies with her incinerate and damage output, noticeable changes after this patch. In general there are other inconsistencies with crits and applying debuffs with other champs, I have noticed. There are open threads everywhere about this. Regardless, the fact is that there is enough push-back and people coming to the forums to raise this issue to make the claim that something is up. Also, if you hang out around forums often you will notice that whenever threads are open and it is very apparent that they are just complaints for the sake of complaining, the mods close them, bec they are not conducive to a healthy forum environment, likewise, when issues are fixed, threads are closed as well. The fact that this thread is still open and that mods are commenting and willing to hear people is evident that there is something going on and that they are still trying to figure something out. Even the mods are more willing to listen than you are, who do you think you are? If you don't have an issue then forget it, go play and have fun. You're literally here for giggles, and it's honestly annoying.
We're continuing to investigate this. As many of you have said, this is inconsistent at best, and we're not able to reproduce it ourselves. If possible, you'd be able to help us out by giving us some information on where you're seeing this issue.
What Champions are you fighting? What Quest is it? Are there any special nodes on the fight? What other Champions besides Red Hulk are on your team?
This information will help us narrow this down.
@Incitatus666 As you can see the devs cant reproduce the issue so I try to make people aware of the fact that they have to be more precice when saying that Domino is bugged. Just saying that there is an issue isnt enough. But no one here actually describes the problem in a clear way. Its always just vague "she doesnt crit enough" stuff which isnt helpful
@Kabam Miike This is a hard issue to reproduce unless you are constant user of Domino. I have gotten many messages and information the last 5 days about Domino. In the end what it boils down to is that Domino "feels" like she is critting less then she used to. You would have to do extensive testing on just her crit rate alone. Also compare the testing between a 5* Domino and a 6* Domino. From everyone I talked to she just feels a bit "off". No amount of screenshots or videos of her is going to change much because this is just an over time feeling from using the character constantly.
We need to calculate her entire crit rating on multiple fights and averages over time. Was Domino critting too much before? Is Domino critting at the proper rate now? These questions need to be answered and the general consensus from a lot of Domino users is that she is definitely weaker in her current state. Is she a horrible character now? Definitely not. She is still baller but slightly less baller.
So the thing is, we can't go off "feels different". I am a constant Domino user as well, and I am not feeling anything different. We're comparing numbers and aren't finding anything, so what we're trying to do is narrow down where this might be happening or a different cause. Her values haven't changed, so there might be something else wrong.
We're continuing to investigate this. As many of you have said, this is inconsistent at best, and we're not able to reproduce it ourselves. If possible, you'd be able to help us out by giving us some information on where you're seeing this issue.
What Champions are you fighting? What Quest is it? Are there any special nodes on the fight? What other Champions besides Red Hulk are on your team?
This information will help us narrow this down.
@Incitatus666 As you can see the devs cant reproduce the issue so I try to make people aware of the fact that they have to be more precice when saying that Domino is bugged. Just saying that there is an issue isnt enough. But no one here actually describes the problem in a clear way. Its always just vague "she doesnt crit enough" stuff which isnt helpful
You keep saying cant describe issue, ppl are literally posting vids of messed up dmg output, and not just saying not criting enough, counterpoint: if she was criting significantly more before and now not enough, then yes, by definition that is a nerf (cause to be weak or ineffective).
We're continuing to investigate this. As many of you have said, this is inconsistent at best, and we're not able to reproduce it ourselves. If possible, you'd be able to help us out by giving us some information on where you're seeing this issue.
What Champions are you fighting? What Quest is it? Are there any special nodes on the fight? What other Champions besides Red Hulk are on your team?
This information will help us narrow this down.
@Incitatus666 As you can see the devs cant reproduce the issue so I try to make people aware of the fact that they have to be more precice when saying that Domino is bugged. Just saying that there is an issue isnt enough. But no one here actually describes the problem in a clear way. Its always just vague "she doesnt crit enough" stuff which isnt helpful
You keep saying cant describe issue, ppl are literally posting vids of messed up dmg output, and not just saying not criting enough, counterpoint: if she was criting significantly more before and now not enough, then yes, by definition that is a nerf (cause to be weak or ineffective).
But they never prove that the damage is messed up with some good examples from before the update
Mike said „we can‘t go off „feel different“. And at same time he said „I feel no different“. Sorry Mike. But if you don‘t feel different there are two possible Explanations. You play as bad as Kabam can fix Bugs or your Domino is not Domino. Domino was fine before Update. No Reason to post tons of Pics and Vids would Domino be fine. Make your damn Job and stop with poor comments about „all fine“.
@Kabam Miike This is a hard issue to reproduce unless you are constant user of Domino. I have gotten many messages and information the last 5 days about Domino. In the end what it boils down to is that Domino "feels" like she is critting less then she used to. You would have to do extensive testing on just her crit rate alone. Also compare the testing between a 5* Domino and a 6* Domino. From everyone I talked to she just feels a bit "off". No amount of screenshots or videos of her is going to change much because this is just an over time feeling from using the character constantly.
We need to calculate her entire crit rating on multiple fights and averages over time. Was Domino critting too much before? Is Domino critting at the proper rate now? These questions need to be answered and the general consensus from a lot of Domino users is that she is definitely weaker in her current state. Is she a horrible character now? Definitely not. She is still baller but slightly less baller.
So the thing is, we can't go off "feels different". I am a constant Domino user as well, and I am not feeling anything different. We're comparing numbers and aren't finding anything, so what we're trying to do is narrow down where this might be happening or a different cause. Her values haven't changed, so there might be something else wrong.
@Kabam Miike wait bro?! Did you watched my Domino video r4/55 vs 4* Moon Knight with 10k health on page before this one?! The video in what Domino take down him in 3 heavy attacks with full synergy and incinerates?! Explain to me how good player are you when you don't see in that video that something is wrong?! Domino isn't the same champion like she used before patch 22.1 and we all know there. Something is wrong. For sure. I didn't have any problem with domino until 22.1. So she needs real fix, not this kind of fix or silent nerf or whatever. Guy who use domino 24/7 can see difference. Find problem, fix her, thanks in advance.
@Kabam Miike i will test domino again tomorrow and let you know how good she is now after your post, most problems i found in event quest, will see tomorrow again in all game events and post my opinion here.
So since no one here seems to be capable of finding any Vidoes here we have one. At 0:58 on the left half you can see a pre update heavy that desnt crit. Compare it to the first heavy against moon knight
Now this may seem like she does deal less damage, but it could also just be because Dominos attacks deal slightly random damage with sometimes more and sometimes less attack rating Proven by looking at the second heavy
So that is what I asked for from you all but somehow no one was able to deliver.
Well, Seatin just said in the live stream that Domino doesn't have full power like before but she is so good champion, I will test that tomorrow and see. But if a man of legends have that kind of opinion with his mad roster you know my comment then.
Is it not possible to just revert her back to what she was before and if there were changes made somewhere then revert those and find a way to makes those changes without it affecting champs and some of their actions, line sentinel sp1, etc
It might be a bug that crits don’t do the correct damage even though stats show they haven’t changed. It might be that we are seeing different results than Kabam is. Is there a way where we can see your damage for Domino @Kabam Miike
It might be a bug that crits don’t do the correct damage even though stats show they haven’t changed. It might be that we are seeing different results than Kabam is. Is there a way where we can see your damage for Domino @Kabam Miike
It is not only the incinerate. I had a fight vs WS in ROL few minutes ago. Incinerate after 12K crit was ok (3200) but far away from preupdate (more as 5k often). S2 Bleeding procs very rare. After WS I fought Cap Marvel. Absolutely other amount of damage. 7 Special 2 and no single bleeding. In many fights no bleeding with SK2. Before Update often with different amount because luck and bad luck. After 3K noncrit heavy 790 incinerate. After 6k heavy 900 and after 11K Crit 1800. In preupdate never needed more as 28 Hits (14 Heavy). After Update never less as 21 heavy. Sometimes more. Bleeding with Special 2 is the second big thing to fix.
I'll be honest here i never saw ~ 450 incinerate ticking with 5/65 domino, when she crit she deals all right damage, but she don't crit that often like she did before that for sure Edit* now i just saw 371 tick vs carnage in uncollected
So what were you expecting there? Which numbers are wrong? Do you have a Video from before the last patch? This showcase here really doesnt show anything
You literally don't know anything about this champion. An R4 duped Domino should have killed that MK with one heavy. There is a plethora of vids out there showcasing stuff just like this, Honestly, you even fighting this is insane. There is clearly something wrong here with that. You're trolling and its not funny, I'm flagging your comments
So she didnt crit for 4 hits in a row and that means shes nerfed? Interesting logic
That's not what we are saying, there are inconsistencies with her incinerate and damage output, noticeable changes after this patch. In general there are other inconsistencies with crits and applying debuffs with other champs I have noticed. There are open threads everywhere about this. Regardless, the fact is that there is a enough push-back and people coming to the forums to raise this issue to make the claim that something is up. Also, if you hang out around forums often you will notice that whenever threads are open and it is very apparent that they are just complaints for the sake of complaining, the mods close them, bec they are not conducive to a healthy forum environment, likewise, when issues are fixed, threads are closed as well. The fact that this thread is still open and that mods are commenting and willing to here people is evident that there is something going on and that they are still trying to figure something out. Even the mods are more willing to listen than you are, who do you think you are? If you don't have an issue then forget it, go play and have fun. You're literally here for giggles, and it's honestly annoying.
She is definitely criting less often than before the update. I use her all the time and something feels different about her. I cannot tell this from her light and medium attacks but it's definitely visible from her heavy attacks. Not getting crits as often as before the update. @Kabam Miike
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There is also a completely random factor with domino... random in mcoc, what!? But it can make her different from fight to fight. Can end some in 12 hits, then do it again and need 20.
Some empirical data points would be great if anyone can be arsed!
As you can see the devs cant reproduce the issue so I try to make people aware of the fact that they have to be more precice when saying that Domino is bugged. Just saying that there is an issue isnt enough. But no one here actually describes the problem in a clear way. Its always just vague "she doesnt crit enough" stuff which isnt helpful
So since no one here seems to be capable of finding any Vidoes here we have one. At 0:58 on the left half you can see a pre update heavy that desnt crit. Compare it to the first heavy against moon knight Now this may seem like she does deal less damage, but it could also just be because Dominos attacks deal slightly random damage with sometimes more and sometimes less attack rating
Proven by looking at the second heavy
So that is what I asked for from you all but somehow no one was able to deliver.
Edit* now i just saw 371 tick vs carnage in uncollected
She’s still bugged. Not only is she criting less often and with less damage, but the incinerate damage is still not scaling properly.
The pics above show a heavy attack:
First hit of heavy - 1269
Second hit of heavy - 10996
Total - 12,265
Incinerate damage should have been 18,397 (massacre extends the duration of debuffs)
Incinerate damage only equaled 9,936.
This fight is in Variant 2; 3.1
@Kabam Miike