Discussion about monthly EQ Uncollected difficulty rewards

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  • Sixshot1Sixshot1 Posts: 446 ★★
    If you don't like the rewards, don't do the content. There's lots of other stuff that can make up for uncollected this month if you choose not to do it, all easier than nameless.

    But keep practicing if you do want the rewards. People have shown he can be taken without items, so he could actually be quite a bit cheaper if you struggled in a previous month. You've got over a month to practice a single fight with nothing in your way but 4 energy. I think people underestimate themselves when they see content like this, if Seatin can do it in a day, most players can do it in a month.
  • Drooped2Drooped2 Posts: 3,033 ★★★★★
    Sixshot1 said:

    If you don't like the rewards, don't do the content. There's lots of other stuff that can make up for uncollected this month if you choose not to do it, all easier than nameless.

    But keep practicing if you do want the rewards. People have shown he can be taken without items, so he could actually be quite a bit cheaper if you struggled in a previous month. You've got over a month to practice a single fight with nothing in your way but 4 energy. I think people underestimate themselves when they see content like this, if Seatin can do it in a day, most players can do it in a month.

    I keep seeing solo runs on line app of guys I know one shotting it. I chill in a gold 1 ally if these guys can do it one shotted...
  • KinkyWizard1KinkyWizard1 Posts: 1,181 ★★★
    Flinx said:

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    You do realise that the person in your screen grabs called this the hardest eq ever. Worse than variant or act 6 but the rewards were exactly the same as the much much easier ones...




    This isn’t even close to Variant #1. That’s utterly absurd.
  • LeNoirFaineantLeNoirFaineant Posts: 4,417 ★★★★★
    Karnage said:

    Karnage said:

    The game is about progression. At one point 5* shards a d T4B and T4CC were rare. T2A didnt exist and it took months to get 1 5*. 6 star champs haven't been out that long. UC EQ isnt the only way to get 6* shards either.

    UC difficulty doesn't warrant 4000 6* shards or 15000 T5B. Its not that difficult to complete. Those types of rewards are what you are getting from act 6.

    They arent getting more difficult, theres just fights and champs you arent used too. The game isnt just about mashing buttons anymore, gotta use strategy now.

    Really? EQ isn't getting harder? Tell me, who were the minibosses in EQ 6 months ago? Oh wait, that's right, there never used to be minibosses. And this month, there's no real difference between exploration and completion. Either you beat that Thanos and get something, or you don't and you get nothing.
    As you progress through the game, EQ should be getting easier as your roster and skills grow, but now even though I'm better at the game, and have a much more stacked roster, EQ is just as difficult, if not more so? What is currently Uncollected EQ this month should of been an entirely new difficulty for cavalier, and Uncollected should of stayed as it as ways has with 1 boss per map, all fights noded except one path, and a final boss of 30-40k. Not a chapter 1 boss of 30-40k and a final boss of 80k, that is act 6 level difficulty, not act 5, and therefore should be Cavalier difficulty and not Uncollected
    Tell me where they said ever EQ would exactly equal in terms of difficulty every single month? You are asking for rewards because 1 month was "harder" than others. When it was first introduced, where the rewards more than what they should have been? the last at least 3 EQ's have been cakewalks. Should you give back rewards for those EQs because they were easier? Didn't think so.

    And you unlock uncollected by completing act 5 chapter 2, it is completely stupid to make UC EQ more difficult than 5.2. What's the point of getting uncollected if you aren't able to complete the content that it unlocks?

    Uncollected EQ has always been harder then 5.2. Getting uncollected unlocks the uncollected quest. That doesn't mean someone who just became uncollected can run it.
  • xNigxNig Posts: 3,117 ★★★★




    Here are 3 screenshots. 2 from the very first UC EQs and 1 from last months. M.O.D.O.K was the first UC boss. Almost 40k PI and 171k Health. Fast Forward to last month with Annihilus and its 117k health and same PI. Void was the 2nd and he was 137k.

    Not sure how that equates to being harder per say. My point is that UC has always gone up and down in difficulty. There wasn't ever a standard in what it was supposed to be. Final boss fights have been hard and easy. All of the UC events can be beaten by 4*s and some even by 3*'s like with Ronan and Red Skull.

    Yes there are noded paths but they haven't really added much since there was individual noded champs before and not just linked ones.

    This montha UC is tough. The first Thanos one was tough as well but it's meant to be. Also its one fight. M.O.D.O.K was something like 7 or 8 paths I believe. That's 8 fights and over 1.3 million HP. So in reality, which is harder?

    I'm not against bigger and better rewards. UC rewards are fine. Add a Cavalier difficulty with higher rewards instead. That makes more sense to me.

    Not to mention when UC was introduced we had 5* R4s (and very few of them) as our top champs. Now we have 5* R5s doing the same (if not easier) difficulty. So from a relative perspective, UC has become easier.
  • DonnymeijDonnymeij Posts: 158
    Uncollected difficulty does not have to change a bit. (not talking about this month since it is the exeption to the rule) If you get 5.2 done you can complete UC every month. Just take the easy path. Put in some revives and units and you're done. If you can explore 5.1 and 5.2 you can explore UC. Same goes with act 3 and heroic, and act 4 with master. Rewards are fine.
    This month is different because you get the completion rewards when you do a final feat that equals exploration normally.
    @Demonzfyre this is also where your logic is not exactly correct. There are players that normally just complete uncollected because they are either not so great at the game, or just dont spent much time with it. Right now. They cannot get any decent rewards because the Thanos is not on par with completion difficulty of Uncollected.

    This will probably be the first time I 100% it thou. Since the event takes so long I think I will be able to save up enough units to explore everything (I`m one of those not so great players that just completes it for some nice goodies)
  • NTT6688846993NTT6688846993 Posts: 37

    The game is about progression. At one point 5* shards a d T4B and T4CC were rare. T2A didnt exist and it took months to get 1 5*. 6 star champs haven't been out that long. UC EQ isnt the only way to get 6* shards either.

    UC difficulty doesn't warrant 4000 6* shards or 15000 T5B. Its not that difficult to complete. Those types of rewards are what you are getting from act 6.

    They arent getting more difficult, theres just fights and champs you arent used too. The game isnt just about mashing buttons anymore, gotta use strategy now.

    I agree. But with such minuscule rewards. And 5.6 * becomeing the must have. Cant progress anywhere if the quest require specific champions or abilities. That most of us dont have or cant get. I agree dont just make it easy for everyone to have 6* but strategize with more of a choice of champ. This months thanos uncollected eq. Once u fight em 30x in 1 hour hes not to bad. Until u get below 30% health than u better have someone hoo can deal 100k damage on a special becuz its almost impossible. I spent 16minutes on thanos once he got below 30% health. Igot him as low as 28% becuz of his indestructible charge
  • JRock808JRock808 Posts: 1,117
    Ace_03 said:

    The amount of contempt and condescension some players have for their fellow summoners is astonishing, even more baffling is how some players keep making the same mistake, of falling into injudicious and rambling arguments, against the same babbling cretins.

    Can't you realize by now, that there are a handful of members on this forum whose posting numbers are unusually high and always have contrarian opinions towards anything that is against the current/common plight of the community?

    Wise up people, their roles are quite simple, they are antagonists and contrarians, whose sole purpose is to mock, ridicule, belittle, humiliate and insult anyone they deem goes against the company and their policies.

    They will always feel the game is in a pretty good place, they will always feel the community is a bunch of crybabies and even when something as bad as 12.0 happens, they will say it's been looked at so stop complaining, since it won't make it better.

    Do yourselves a favor, put them on the ignore list (unfortunately there is only enough for 5, this should be unlimited) and go about whatever it is you want to express, their opinions are biased, argumentative and have no weight, you read one post, you've read them all.

    Pay these people no attention and give them no importance, they are nothing and their opinions mean less than nothing.

    I wish I could agree, like and awesome this.

    Instead I'll just save it and repost it wherever applicable.


  • JRock808JRock808 Posts: 1,117
    Ace_03 said:

    The amount of contempt and condescension some players have for their fellow summoners is astonishing, even more baffling is how some players keep making the same mistake, of falling into injudicious and rambling arguments, against the same babbling cretins.

    Can't you realize by now, that there are a handful of members on this forum whose posting numbers are unusually high and always have contrarian opinions towards anything that is against the current/common plight of the community?

    Wise up people, their roles are quite simple, they are antagonists and contrarians, whose sole purpose is to mock, ridicule, belittle, humiliate and insult anyone they deem goes against the company and their policies.

    They will always feel the game is in a pretty good place, they will always feel the community is a bunch of crybabies and even when something as bad as 12.0 happens, they will say it's been looked at so stop complaining, since it won't make it better.

    Do yourselves a favor, put them on the ignore list (unfortunately there is only enough for 5, this should be unlimited) and go about whatever it is you want to express, their opinions are biased, argumentative and have no weight, you read one post, you've read them all.

    Pay these people no attention and give them no importance, they are nothing and their opinions mean less than nothing.

    I wish I could agree, like and awesome this.

    Instead I'll save it and repost it wherever applicable.
  • GroundedWisdomGroundedWisdom Posts: 17,603 ★★★★★
    TL:DR - People who don't agree are considered contrarians, and all counters presented should be ignored.
  • DonnymeijDonnymeij Posts: 158
    @xNig
    You, are using 5*r5.
    There was also a post where someone said when they became uncollected they only had a handful of r4 and now they have r5 so it should be harder.
    That is very strange logic to me.
    People who become uncollected these days do not have those r5's.
    So doing montly event should be the same difficulty for those players (who started later or whatever) now as it was for you when you could first do it.
  • LormifLormif Posts: 1,227 ★★★
    Ace_03 said:

    The amount of contempt and condescension some players have for their fellow summoners is astonishing, even more baffling is how some players keep making the same mistake, of falling into injudicious and rambling arguments, against the same babbling cretins.

    Can't you realize by now, that there are a handful of members on this forum whose posting numbers are unusually high and always have contrarian opinions towards anything that is against the current/common plight of the community?

    Wise up people, their roles are quite simple, they are antagonists and contrarians, whose sole purpose is to mock, ridicule, belittle, humiliate and insult anyone they deem goes against the company and their policies.

    They will always feel the game is in a pretty good place, they will always feel the community is a bunch of crybabies and even when something as bad as 12.0 happens, they will say it's been looked at so stop complaining, since it won't make it better.

    Do yourselves a favor, put them on the ignore list (unfortunately there is only enough for 5, this should be unlimited) and go about whatever it is you want to express, their opinions are biased, argumentative and have no weight, you read one post, you've read them all.

    Pay these people no attention and give them no importance, they are nothing and their opinions mean less than nothing.

    i disagree with you, and if that makes me a "contrarian" so be it. That being said I quit after version 12, this update is no where near what happened there...

    In fact it seems you are just trying to shut down discussion by labeling those that disagree with you as a contrarian, a hater... If you are unable to do this months I am sorry, I have empathy, but overall with the fact that thanos is a solo boss that takes 9 energy to get to he his difficulty is balanced. Phase 1 and 2 are both easy, and phase 3 is easy if you have a moderate ability to intercept.
  • Panchulon21Panchulon21 Posts: 600 ★★
    @Ace_03 could have said it better myself man. Bravo.

    I do agree with the community though, this thanos is a bit of a pain, should the rewards be scaled to this? I would say a little especially because this uncollected is tied to the end of one of the greatest sagas in our lifetime. The culmination of 22 films in a 10 year span. I understand that we have other content to clear, but the Maw quest is a bit much, I cleared the cap line no issues, but the ironman line is kinda crazy with dominos crit failure in epic. Insane amounts of damage that you basically can’t control.

    Nothing we can do other than play the game though. 🤷🏽‍♂️
  • Colinwhitworth69Colinwhitworth69 Posts: 824 ★★★
    As a player, I want to continue improving against difficulty levels until I can progress to the next one, so it is discouraging when the EQ is suddenly so hard I cannot even do the levels I have mastered.

    But Kabam can do whatever it likes, so this month I did what I could but am definitely not spending on revives and such just to beat Thanos or to try to use a single Avenger to clear a super hard path designed to make it near impossible.
  • LormifLormif Posts: 1,227 ★★★

    As a player, I want to continue improving against difficulty levels until I can progress to the next one, so it is discouraging when the EQ is suddenly so hard I cannot even do the levels I have mastered.

    But Kabam can do whatever it likes, so this month I did what I could but am definitely not spending on revives and such just to beat Thanos or to try to use a single Avenger to clear a super hard path designed to make it near impossible.

    and I take it practicing on a short path is below you?
  • Ace_03Ace_03 Posts: 638 ★★★★
    Lormif said:

    Ace_03 said:

    The amount of contempt and condescension some players have for their fellow summoners is astonishing, even more baffling is how some players keep making the same mistake, of falling into injudicious and rambling arguments, against the same babbling cretins.

    Can't you realize by now, that there are a handful of members on this forum whose posting numbers are unusually high and always have contrarian opinions towards anything that is against the current/common plight of the community?

    Wise up people, their roles are quite simple, they are antagonists and contrarians, whose sole purpose is to mock, ridicule, belittle, humiliate and insult anyone they deem goes against the company and their policies.

    They will always feel the game is in a pretty good place, they will always feel the community is a bunch of crybabies and even when something as bad as 12.0 happens, they will say it's been looked at so stop complaining, since it won't make it better.

    Do yourselves a favor, put them on the ignore list (unfortunately there is only enough for 5, this should be unlimited) and go about whatever it is you want to express, their opinions are biased, argumentative and have no weight, you read one post, you've read them all.

    Pay these people no attention and give them no importance, they are nothing and their opinions mean less than nothing.

    i disagree with you, and if that makes me a "contrarian" so be it. That being said I quit after version 12, this update is no where near what happened there...

    In fact it seems you are just trying to shut down discussion by labeling those that disagree with you as a contrarian, a hater... If you are unable to do this months I am sorry, I have empathy, but overall with the fact that thanos is a solo boss that takes 9 energy to get to he his difficulty is balanced. Phase 1 and 2 are both easy, and phase 3 is easy if you have a moderate ability to intercept.

    A picture is worth a thousand words (2 in this case) and actions speaks louder than words.





  • LormifLormif Posts: 1,227 ★★★
    except those 2 pics do not speak anything here.
  • RagamugginGunnerRagamugginGunner Posts: 1,747




    Here are 3 screenshots. 2 from the very first UC EQs and 1 from last months. M.O.D.O.K was the first UC boss. Almost 40k PI and 171k Health. Fast Forward to last month with Annihilus and its 117k health and same PI. Void was the 2nd and he was 137k.

    Not sure how that equates to being harder per say. My point is that UC has always gone up and down in difficulty. There wasn't ever a standard in what it was supposed to be. Final boss fights have been hard and easy. All of the UC events can be beaten by 4*s and some even by 3*'s like with Ronan and Red Skull.

    Yes there are noded paths but they haven't really added much since there was individual noded champs before and not just linked ones.

    This montha UC is tough. The first Thanos one was tough as well but it's meant to be. Also its one fight. M.O.D.O.K was something like 7 or 8 paths I believe. That's 8 fights and over 1.3 million HP. So in reality, which is harder?

    I'm not against bigger and better rewards. UC rewards are fine. Add a Cavalier difficulty with higher rewards instead. That makes more sense to me.

    The Bosses aren't where they've changed. Go back and see how many lanes had special nodes when UC first came out and go look at how many paths have special nodes now.
  • Ace_03Ace_03 Posts: 638 ★★★★
    edited May 6
    Lormif said:

    except those 2 pics do not speak anything here.

    Oh they do, cause automatically my message is because I can't clear the content, that was your point right, or it was too hard, darn it, maybe I'm not skilled enough?

    Oh, poor me, what will I ever do? :'(

    Unlike you, I think about the majority, not the few, here's one more for ya, I'm as end game as it comes within my F2P, limits, I have beaten everything there is to beat, but there has to be a balance between difficulty and rewards, while also being sensible to the plethora of issues and errors plaguing the game at this moment.


  • LormifLormif Posts: 1,227 ★★★
    Ace_03 said:

    Lormif said:

    except those 2 pics do not speak anything here.

    Oh they do, cause automatically my message is because I can't clear the content, that was your point right, or it was too hard, darn it, maybe I'm not skilled enough?

    Oh, poor me, what will I ever do? :'(

    Unlike you, I think for the majority, not the few, here's one more for ya, I'm as end game as it comes within my F2P, limits, I have beaten everything there is to beat, but there has to be a balance between difficulty and rewards, while also being sensible to the plethora of issues and errors plaguing the game at this moment.


    Ahh the arrogance of this one post.

    1) I never commented on if you could clear the content or not, or your skill level... No strawmen please..
    2) you dont know if you speak for the majority or not. The people on these forums are not the majority, they are the vocal minority...
    3) Even if you were aligned with the majority it still does not make you correct.

    4) yes there has to be balance between difficulty and rewards, however this EQ is easier than most because there is not 7 lanes, 20 nodes, 3 energy per node. You dont have to use an entire bar of energy to get to the boss, with a near dead team possibly, to hit him. You go in with a fully healthy team dedicated for him. In the amount of energy you would normally spend to clear the map you get to have somewhere around 45 ((7x20x3)/9) attempts at practicing the boss. That dramatically lowers the difficulty, as long as you have the patience to do it (if you need it)
  • Ace_03Ace_03 Posts: 638 ★★★★
    Lormif said:

    Ace_03 said:

    Lormif said:

    except those 2 pics do not speak anything here.

    Oh they do, cause automatically my message is because I can't clear the content, that was your point right, or it was too hard, darn it, maybe I'm not skilled enough?

    Oh, poor me, what will I ever do? :'(

    Unlike you, I think for the majority, not the few, here's one more for ya, I'm as end game as it comes within my F2P, limits, I have beaten everything there is to beat, but there has to be a balance between difficulty and rewards, while also being sensible to the plethora of issues and errors plaguing the game at this moment.


    Ahh the arrogance of this one post.

    1) I never commented on if you could clear the content or not, or your skill level... No strawmen please..
    2) you dont know if you speak for the majority or not. The people on these forums are not the majority, they are the vocal minority...
    3) Even if you were aligned with the majority it still does not make you correct.

    4) yes there has to be balance between difficulty and rewards, however this EQ is easier than most because there is not 7 lanes, 20 nodes, 3 energy per node. You dont have to use an entire bar of energy to get to the boss, with a near dead team possibly, to hit him. You go in with a fully healthy team dedicated for him. In the amount of energy you would normally spend to clear the map you get to have somewhere around 45 ((7x20x3)/9) attempts at practicing the boss. That dramatically lowers the difficulty, as long as you have the patience to do it (if you need it)
    "Even if you were aligned with the majority it still does not make you correct".

    You are just a treasure trove of quotes, I think I this summarizes this entire thing, good looks bro, I guess the needs and desires of the few, outweigh those of the majority.

    #democracy

    Do you man, to anyone reading this remember:

    What the majority think is irrelevant, only a few know what is right for us, so don't bother debating anything, since we are by default always wrong.

    Shining beacon of logic aren't ya?

  • LormifLormif Posts: 1,227 ★★★
    Ace_03 said:

    Lormif said:

    Ace_03 said:

    Lormif said:

    except those 2 pics do not speak anything here.

    Oh they do, cause automatically my message is because I can't clear the content, that was your point right, or it was too hard, darn it, maybe I'm not skilled enough?

    Oh, poor me, what will I ever do? :'(

    Unlike you, I think for the majority, not the few, here's one more for ya, I'm as end game as it comes within my F2P, limits, I have beaten everything there is to beat, but there has to be a balance between difficulty and rewards, while also being sensible to the plethora of issues and errors plaguing the game at this moment.


    Ahh the arrogance of this one post.

    1) I never commented on if you could clear the content or not, or your skill level... No strawmen please..
    2) you dont know if you speak for the majority or not. The people on these forums are not the majority, they are the vocal minority...
    3) Even if you were aligned with the majority it still does not make you correct.

    4) yes there has to be balance between difficulty and rewards, however this EQ is easier than most because there is not 7 lanes, 20 nodes, 3 energy per node. You dont have to use an entire bar of energy to get to the boss, with a near dead team possibly, to hit him. You go in with a fully healthy team dedicated for him. In the amount of energy you would normally spend to clear the map you get to have somewhere around 45 ((7x20x3)/9) attempts at practicing the boss. That dramatically lowers the difficulty, as long as you have the patience to do it (if you need it)
    "Even if you were aligned with the majority it still does not make you correct".

    You are just a treasure trove of quotes, I think I this summarizes this entire thing, good looks bro, I guess the needs and desires of the few, outweigh those of the majority.

    #democracy

    Do you man, to anyone reading this remember:

    What the majority think is irrelevant, only a few know what is right for us, so don't bother debating anything, since we are by default always wrong.

    Shining beacon of logic aren't ya?

    Except you still have not established you are the majority.. your "logic" is circular. I am atleast covering the bases...

    BTW you know a true democracy is one of the worst types of governments in the world, it is guaranteed to lead to tyranny, because it suppresses the minority. (federalist #10)
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